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Copyright reminder
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Pyrrho » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:09 am
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Holocaust, Genocide, and Mass Violence
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From the forum rules:
Copyright infringement. Users may post very brief excerpts of content from other websites, with a link to the online source....
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I could swear I've heard this somewhere before.
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:10 pm
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Tough days for the denialists
by Lausten » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm
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It's here. Actually worse than predicted.
This isn't a one-off fluke, either. According to the data, the five hottest Julys occurred in the last...
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Please, folks, if you post an article that's behind a pay wall please give enough information for us to look elsewhere.
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Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:06 pm
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Uninhabitable Earth = We won't all Die, Just Many
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:06 pm
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100's of Millions to Die by 2100
Interesting Factoid: More than half of all of the fossil fuel emissions that we've ever put into the atmosphere...
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Mike
I was less than precise. Sorry. I meant the football ground, which includes the areas around the field, right back to the fence surrounding the...
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:57 pm
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Global warming lawsuits
by MikeN » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:14 pm
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Tim Ball was sued by Andrew Weaver in 2011 over incorrect statements in an article. He had that case dismissed last year, when the judge properly...
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Sounds like too many damn lawsuits. Tell those guys to get a life.
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:55 pm
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Food miles
by Lance Kennedy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:18 pm
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Reference, New Scientist, 3 August 2019, page 24
One of the favorite pieces of bulldust spouted by the fringe nutter side of environmentalists, is...
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Local foods spoil just as fast as distantly produced foods and the high cost of the flash freezing equipment means that local non-preserved foods go...
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:33 pm
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Wild fires trap carbon
by Lance Kennedy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:09 pm
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Interesting twist. We tend to think of forest fires as pouring CO2 into the atmosphere. But this research group suggests that, in the long term,...
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The same thing was true in Australia, where the aboriginal people engaged in what is called mosaic burning. It kept the forests from taking over, and...
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:35 pm
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Humanities wants in on climate change
by MikeN » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:32 pm
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'There is an overemphasis on science'
Translation: We want some of that federal grant money.
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Elected representatives don't need to do what the people want, they only need to spin what they are doing so as to convince enough people that they...
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:06 pm
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Lovelock, nuclear, and warming
by Lance Kennedy » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:17 am
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James Lovelock, the darling of the idiot green movement, has his rational moments. He says that the only way to halt global warming is through the...
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I think the Nuclear Industry itself is mostly to blame for its decline: they rested on their laurels, raked in the money, refused to innovate and...
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Last post by ElectricMonk
Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:19 am
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Plant trees
by Lance Kennedy » Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:42 am
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The best way go save the climate is to plant a trillion trees.
There is enough land available which is not required for agriculture, and which is...
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I'm suitably chagrined.
To smoothe something is an action. To make it smooth.
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Last post by Major Malfunction
Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:15 pm
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Plastics, plastics everywhere...
by landrew » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:30 pm
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The throwaway society has legitimized planned obsolescence, and the consequence is the persistence of plastics in our environment. This is mainly...
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Trump fighting ‘liberal paper straws’ with $15 plastic set during campaign
My family now all have our own personal straws. Finding the reusable...
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:04 am
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Can climate scientists speak honestly?
by MikeN » Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:00 pm
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Climate scientists frequently exaggerate the science, to try to make global warming as bad as possible.
Roger Pielke Jr, spanks them one more time.
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For what it's worth:
The link is a worthwhile summary of the systematic interference in climate studies by the Federal Gubment. Its been...
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:37 pm
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The Big Idea fallacy.
by Lance Kennedy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:06 am
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Certain persons like Lausten and Bobbo have argued with my suggestion of the Nowcast Fallacy (mostly, I think, because it came from me.). There is...
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One may wonder if we have a petulant 5 year old who is dabbling in AI and lets his buggy program post here.
Something is buggy for sure.
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Last post by landrew
Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:55 am
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Are we sure global warming is bad?
by MikeN » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:18 am
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We've had two degrees already.
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Dictionary Skills if its not the pork tacos: eccentricity .......the ninth word in.
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:12 pm
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Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:05 pm
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AGW Deniers and Conspiracy Believers
by Lance Kennedy » Sun May 26, 2019 9:45 pm
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Reference, Scientific American, March 2019, page 54
Researchers into the psychology of conspiracy belief have found that there is a correlation...
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Idiot: someone who dreams up derogatory terms to describe everyone who has a different opinion.
:mrgreen: captured for posterity
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Last post by Gord
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:26 am
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The high cost of electric vehicles
by MikeN » Fri May 17, 2019 6:45 pm
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An Illinois legislator is proposing an annual registration fee of $1000 for electric vehicles, along with an increase of the gas tax from 19c to 24c...
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People who don't drive benefit from roads too. Where do you think the food in the supermarket comes from - farms in the basement?
Funding roads...
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Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm
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Are reporters biased on the issue of global warming?
by MikeN » Tue May 07, 2019 6:40 pm
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New York Times reporter found to be playing fast and loose with the facts to paint a picture of global warming bad.
They go back to 2012 to point...
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How could all of any group not selected for the bias have the same bias? Makes no sense. Every snowflake is UNIQUE. Thats why we ARE all special.
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Wed May 08, 2019 6:08 pm
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The problem with pessimism.
by Lance Kennedy » Wed May 01, 2019 11:27 pm
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Again, referring to Stephen Pinker.
He lists three reasons why it is vitally important that when discussing human impact on the environment, we must...
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...........the boy can't read.
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Fri May 03, 2019 2:15 pm
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Pinker on global warming.
by Lance Kennedy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:40 am
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I plan to post a number of quotes from Stephen Pinkers new book, as related to climate change. Pinker is no global warming skeptic. He firmly...
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and so on...........right up to the effect/ability of self aware creatures to modify their own global climate/environment.
Hence, its usefulness as...
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:32 am
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Is global warming a cult?
by MikeN » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:41 pm
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Looks at the common signs of a religious cult, and finds the global warming movement to fit.
Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a...
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No. Only by stretching the definitions of global warming and cult can you reach the conclusion that global warming is a cult . But doing so removes...
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:06 am
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Climate change, global warming and the coming ice age
by robinson » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:31 pm
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When this subject first came up for debate, it was called global warming. After a couple of years, or whatever, it became climate change. Well,...
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No.....compared to everyone else on this forum..............well, except for the automated spammers.
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:52 am
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Pinker and the environment.
by Lance Kennedy » Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:54 pm
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I am reading Prof. Stephen Pinkers new book, Enlightenment Now . For those who do not know, Pinker is a Canadian who is professor of psychology at...
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EM.
Not at all.
For example, the solution to the ozone hole problem required that new materials to serve as aerosol propellants, and new materials...
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:54 pm
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EU fails to agree on emissions target for 2050
by MikeN » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:48 pm
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Germany joins Poland and others in not doing a target for 2050. This is a break from the usual pattern of declaring a target then many years later...
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Thanks. Why is having the batteries worth it for Boeing?
Its back up power for instance: to restart your jets on flame out and so forth. I assume...
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Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:44 am
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What can technology do in the Midwest?
by Lausten » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:53 pm
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Global Warming leads to larger fluctuations in weather events. If you accept that, but still think we can tech our way out of this problem, exactly...
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Intensive farming, like any other kind, is about taking the opportunity to make money by growing crops. Obviously, no one will turn to intensive...
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Last post by landrew
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 am
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20 YEARS==>Before HOT HOUSE Earth Kills Us All
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:56 am
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.......................and thats the optimistic estimate:
What we do in the next 10-20 years will determine whether our planet remains hospitable...
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And i won't even be troll-baited.
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Last post by landrew
Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:15 am
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New Energy Economy, impossible
by MikeN » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:02 am
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At least in the short to medium term.
This daunting challenge elicits a common response: “If we can put a man on the moon, surely we can .” But...
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Small advances continue to be made, but we're still nowhere close to achieving the energy density of diesel fuel in an electric battery. The numbers...
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Last post by landrew
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:15 pm
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Nature article with new recommendations for global warming
by MikeN » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:46 pm
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More detailed assessment of science in the near term 25 years.
Rethink policy goals and avoid 1.5C hard target
Adaptation
Plan for Rapid Response
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It's probably natural skepticism that accounts for the fact that most people will not be told what to think. I don't think we're skeptical enough, in...
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Last post by landrew
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:28 pm
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Global warmers rewriting history
by MikeN » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:17 pm
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Greenpeace got Google to erase Patrick Moore as a founder of Greenpeace.
This started about 12 years ago, when a British program featured Patrick...
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This belongs in the conspiracy theory forum
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Last post by Lausten
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:26 pm
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12 years to save the planet
by MikeN » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:28 pm
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This is the latest mantra from the global warming alarmists.
Beto O'Rourke, aka Robert Francis O'Rourke, said the scientists are unanimous that there...
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Time to go all Matt: landrew you complete idiot. YOU are the one claiming I am alarmist. The burden of proof is on you to support your claim....
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:51 am
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Making it better
by Lance Kennedy » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:28 pm
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I have told the pessimists on this forum topic a number of times that action to mitigate global warming has already begun. Now there is a New...
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I am sure we will, too. I am not sure that evolution is not up to the job. Frankly, I would suspect that the Y chromosome has been in it's current...
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Last post by landrew
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:06 pm
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Deep Adaptation
by Lausten » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:07 pm
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Saw this on VICE . To get the paper, search for the full name. It's a lengthy PDF. I've only skimmed it. It's the opposite philosophy of some other...
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The War on Science is an excellent book, but he's not really saying anything new to anyone who is scientifically literate. It's the job of scientists...
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Last post by Lausten
Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:07 pm
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How to Fight Denialism
by landrew » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:13 pm
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How do you defeat clever and specious intellectual arguments against climate change environmentalism?
Launch a holy jihad info-war?
Or dine with...
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A bit simplistic, landrew. Especially when the author says getting rid of hydrogenated fats and corn syrup will make a massive difference. Good diet...
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:18 am
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I see dumb people?
by Gord » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:57 pm
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Harvard study finds that during heat waves, people can’t think straight
...Harvard researchers say that they studied students in dorms with and...
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:lol:
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Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:12 am
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AGW to Kill 1.5M per year by 2100
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:32 pm
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Even after accounting for adaptation , an additional 1.5 million people die per year from climate change by 2100 if past emissions trends continue....
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Sorry, Mike. I misunderstood. Consider me chastised.
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:20 am
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What about the "Green New Deal"?
by Abdul Alhazred » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:17 pm
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My analysis of the Green New Deal:
Not as yet a fully developed policy proposal, they were just running it up the flagpole.
Alexandria...
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because people getting sick is not the import of AGW and solutions re keeping people healthy mostly would add to the REAL problem....
The deep...
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Last post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:14 am
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5 Great Extinctions of Most Life, We are #6
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:22 pm
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A very short summary of the 5 great extinction events. One by co2. We are in the Sixth Great Extinction called the Anthropocene. Good to keep in mind.
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Permian-Triassic is my fav.
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Last post by Gawdzilla Sama
Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:04 pm
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AGW>>Most "News" = is Distorted. "Sad."
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:36 pm
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I'm watching Bret Stephens give a talk on What true conservatism is all about (Conserving: LIBERAL VALUES.==> get it? Very subtle) which is why he is...
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It is my reaction to the links posted .........as opposed to what the links are supposedly about.
Can you suggest a better one?
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Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:01 am
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Hitting Disaster 80 years early. Warnings are too Rosey.
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:35 pm
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Wasn't supposed to happen until 2100: but its here now (sic---for headline purposes don't ya know?)
Met Office: global warming could exceed...
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Bobbo
You have made both claims. We are all gonna die, and it will destroy civilization. Not just once but many times. Duh !...
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:31 am
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We're All Gonna Die - Insects & Glaciers FIRST
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:34 am
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Dahr Jamail CLIMATE REPORTER and writer of books....quite the hysteric on Democracy Now tonight. He says: if co2 pollution STOPPED RIGHT NOW...there...
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I gave you a link to click on.
Yes you did. So rarely done, I missed it. I'm sure this harbingers more good solid on point links to come?...
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Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:40 am
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Wind, solar and nuclear
by Lance Kennedy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:53 pm
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Wind power is not, after all, that climate friendly. If the USA did wind power very large scale, it would redistribute heat in such a way as to raise...
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Lance: whats so hard about: copy and paste one issue you think I am wrong about? .........and why? for as you know, I am so hysterical I won't get...
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm
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Climate change == no more free pr0n
by Abdul Alhazred » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:27 pm
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Buried internet infrastructure at risk as sea levels rise
Science Daily
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... critical communications infrastructure that could be submerged by rising seas in as soon as 15 years ...
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Much of this infrastructure is...
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 am
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Potholer54!!!
by Bart Stewart » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:56 pm
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I haven't been to this section of the forum in a while. Where are all the deniers? They camped out here around the clock, with spam-a-rama unlike any...
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His sniper buddy Robinson still shoots a round off now and then. Doesn't break cover to stay engaged.
Jim Steel has expertise.........he's just off...
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:46 am
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Factfulness facts.
by Lance Kennedy » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:11 pm
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Factfulness is the title of Dr Hans Roslings new book, and refers to the sad reality that most people do not know the true facts about the human...
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Obviously, resources are not equally shared. That is why wealthy nations have their poor. But nations become wealthier as a whole by steady economic...
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:27 pm
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Climate change is cool, so chill out bro.
by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:32 am
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Late frost gives UK magic mushroom hunters an extra high
Psychedelic fungi may still be in bloom on New Year’s Day due to climate change...
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Give yourself credit: pre bloom period.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:32 am
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100 Million Could Die From Climate Change By 2030
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:24 pm
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Hey!==a nice firm prediction we all should be alive to see? I was gonna let it go as just one more dire prediction, but its been reaffirmed 3 times...
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No need to be silly, Bobbo.
Future worse than the past ?
Just think of the Cuban Missile Crisis without Arkhipov.
How does that get you to the...
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Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:07 am
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Danielle Pletka on Meet the Press
by Gord » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:34 am
Hank Green responds to a speaker, Danielle Pletka from the American Enterprise Insitute, who spoke on Meet the Press and made a few rather odd...
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Last post by Gord
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:34 am
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Nothing objectively wrong with eating insects, but ...
by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:55 pm
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Would you eat insects to save the planet from global warming?
Teh Gruniad
It sounds to me like one of those juvenile truth or dare things.
If...
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Reptiles taste like chicken.
Except alligators. With alligators you taste like chicken to them .
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:57 pm
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1000ppm by 2100?==>We're All Gonna Die!!
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:55 am
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I keep googling the how is AGW going to end us and have never gotten a good feel for what really is going to happen. I think the scientist who know...
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Re threats.
Prediction is difficult, especially about the future.
But the best basis for predictions is trends. The threat of nuclear power is best...
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Last post by Lance Kennedy
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:59 am
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Just the weather
by Gord » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:21 pm
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It's 46 celsius in Palm Springs today, and it's freaking my brother out. (He's not there, he's here next to me, freaking out about someone else's...
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If anyone can hack my computer, they can keep it. But they must provide their own axe.
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