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I Love Big Trees...but they are dying at an increased rate

Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:24 am



2500 years old....and dying. Sure, CC is causing a drought but nothing these trees haven not lived thru before, so, its a mystery. A too short read here: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/.a/6a00d8341 ... 200d-800wi

Years ago I read a (fantasy novel) book about the mystical power/wisdom of trees older and larger than anything that actually exists. From one passage to the next I sometimes felt transported to another reality. I traveled with our hero on his quest for ultimate knowledge.

Usually, such impactful books are remembered in a whole lot more detail than I have on this one...... like the fricken name and its author?? I again suspect my subconscious at work...... denying the woo even when just fiction.
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Re: I Love Big Trees......and they are all Dying.

Post by Gord » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:47 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:A too short read here: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/.a/6a00d8341 ... 200d-800wi
That's just the photograph you put in your post.

Here, try this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ge/562499/
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:11 am

I think it is an exaggeration to say they are ALL dying. A nice baobab tree in your photo. I saw heaps in North Australia. Most looked similar to your photo and they were definitely not dying.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:08 am

Its a beautiful tree....or maybe just interesting in its normal isolation? I've never seen "the pit" the linked article talks about.

All?.........you don't like ALL. Didn't complain when I said the same thing about the fishies..........

I like figs and oaks for beauty. They still have to be trimmed or look good by accident.....ah...not true....just about any very large or old plant has a "stature" about it. Grapevines, Fuschia, etc....trained in tree form and Large have a certain majesty about it. Even that succulent I can't think of now...saw one 15 feet tall in the lobby of a Hotel. Had to have an espresso and admire it.
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Re: I Love Big Trees......and they are all Dying.

Post by TJrandom » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:06 am

Gord wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:A too short read here: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/.a/6a00d8341 ... 200d-800wi
That's just the photograph you put in your post.

Here, try this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ge/562499/
Patrut discovered this unique architecture by visiting almost all the biggest and oldest baobabs in the world, and carbon-dating their various stems. He and his team would bore tiny holes into the wood and extract millimeter-wide chips, which they sent to the U.S. to be analyzed.
Erm... I blame Patrut for their deaths - deaths of small cuts, if you will. Of course it could also be Trump... As for those millimeter wide chips... 100mm? 1000mm? :roll:

Some years ago as I was flying above the US and observing the ground below - I noticed that there were strips of trees on both sides of interstate highways - just enough so that drivers would see forests and wonder at the great natural outdoors. But on the other side of those ridges - the trees were clear-cut. Talk about dying trees....

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:19 pm

Gord wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:A too short read here: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/.a/6a00d8341 ... 200d-800wi
That's just the photograph you put in your post.

Here, try this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... ge/562499/
thanks Gord. I very purposefully thought I was providing the link to the article.....but, I'm not as good as I try to be....

I'd post again, but your link is better. I thought the "cavity" might be from inside the tree. Your link clearly says that.
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Post by Monster » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:40 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: Years ago I read a (fantasy novel) book about the mystical power/wisdom of trees older and larger than anything that actually exists.
A bunch of Yggdrasils?
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Post by scrmbldggs » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:17 pm

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Post by Lance Kennedy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:59 pm

I am a great lover of trees. I have 4 acres of land, and I have planted it out in native rain forest trees.

But I am also a great lover of that little thing known as objective truth. So I object to a statement that ALL trees are dying. In fact, in western countries, forest cover is increasing due to plantings, so much that the world has a small but measurable increase in total forest cover decade by decade, despite the deforestation in tropical third world countries.

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Post by OlegTheBatty » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:02 pm

Plants age just as animals age. Asking why a 2500 yo tree is dying is like asking why a 100 yo person is dying. Unless it's a bristlecone pine - then 2500 years old is still a pup.
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Post by TJrandom » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:08 pm

Indeed - we are all dying....

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:50 am

How long has appreciation for hyperbole, especially in click bait headlines actually been dead and buried?
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Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:33 am

:hmm: You're doing it wrong. :pardon:
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:59 am

"I Love Big Trees...but they are dying at an increased rate"

Kinda Sucks. Is that what you meant?

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Post by Poodle » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:00 am

Is it just me, or does anyone else see the pic as a Photoshop product?

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:15 am

Poodle wrote:Is it just me, or does anyone else see the pic as a Photoshop product?
What do you see that is amiss? I've never seen a baobob tree, and not that many pictures....so, no standard for what is normal?
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Post by scrmbldggs » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:31 pm

You don't see the squirrel hiding behind it? There's a nose and a bit of gut. :-P
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Post by Poodle » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:43 pm

My usual problem with posting images bites me again ...

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl= ... ..i&w=1944

Follow that address - the original image is DEFINITELY a Photoshop job.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:26 am

"The Original One".....is the website's picture with 5-6 other Baobobs?

If so, I think the picture was photoshoped (to remove the other trees) but the "tree" was not photoshoped, to my eye.

So, in my view, if the issue is "the tree" no reason to mention anything. If the issue is the area where the tree grows....then yeah, photoshopping is the issue.

More relevant maybe.....is the article is about dying trees and mostly because of drought? So...showing a tree growing in a near swamp is almost irrelevant. A picture about dying trees really ought to have a picture of a dying tree?

anyway, original question: what was amiss that made you think of photoshop?
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Post by Poodle » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:40 am

The sharpness of focus on the trunk itself is much finer than the vegetation at the base of the trunk - if you really want to know 8-)

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Post by Lance Kennedy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:05 am

I have seen a lot of baobab trees in real life. I have even stood inside one. It was hollow. That was from a holiday in the Kimberley region of North western Australia. The photo seems to me to be quite authentic. A good, healthy and quite lovely baobab.

My quibble is Bobbo and his never ending pessimism. Previously it was "We are all gonna die."
And no, I do not think he was referring to old age.
Now it is that all the big trees are gonna die. And again , I do not think he was referring to old age. Bobbo suffers from a strange form of psychosis that expresses itself as unremitting pessimism.

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Post by Poodle » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:30 am

One or both of those images must be faked, Lance. Unless, of course, the ones in the background of the second image had all recently keeled over. And the bush at the base of the tree had moved behind the trunk whilst leaving the top of the tree in almost exactly the same position.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:43 am

The bush could well be just the angle or position from which the picture was taken. The difference is in the "almost."

Lance: you do provide a lot of humor to this forum. Can't you read the OP Heading? Its says: "I love Big Trees...but they are dying at an increased rate." Can't you read????????
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