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Post by Tom Palven » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:08 am

Program enables Palestinian students to study at top US schools:
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featu ... 27408.html
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Post by OutOfBreath » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:35 am

Good for them!

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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:11 pm

The program is Palestinian.
"The $2m project was launched by Taawon, the largest Palestinian non-profit organisation committed to local development."

Tom will now tell us about the Libertarian Party's policy concerning public education. ( They want to get rid of public education)

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

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Post by Tom Palven » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:13 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:The program is Palestinian.
"The $2m project was launched by Taawon, the largest Palestinian non-profit organisation committed to local development."

Tom will now tell us about the Libertarian Party's policy concerning public education. ( They want to get rid of public education)

"As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/
Darn, you got me now. I wouldn't quibble with that statement one bit.

And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to, as Mark Twain, another one of my heroes (note that Mike Pompeo isn't on the list) did when he enabled the first black student to attend Yale law school.
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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:11 am

Tom Palven wrote:And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

"Your honour, I rest my case..."
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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Tom Palven » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:41 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......

You can't even spell education.

"Your honour, I rest my case..."
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Grass is often green. No, Agent 008?
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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:51 am

Tom Palven wrote:And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......
Matthew Ellard wrote:You can't even spell education.
Tom Palven wrote:Grass is often green.
It would seem your parents saved a couple of bucks on your primary school education, concerning spelling.

Thankfully Australia's free public education system has a national minimum standard.
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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Tom Palven » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:03 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......
Matthew Ellard wrote:You can't even spell education.
Tom Palven wrote:Grass is often green.
It would seem your parents saved a couple of bucks on your primary school education, concerning spelling.

Thankfully Australia's free public education system has a national minimum standard.
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So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say. :lol:
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Re: Palestinian Kids at US Schools

Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:20 pm

Tom Palven wrote:So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say.
Write that down again as a coherent sentence. Your lack of education is showing again. :lol:

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Post by Tom Palven » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:20 am

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Tom Palven wrote:So, Agent 008, you'll take a pass on whether grass is often green or not rather than agree with anything that I say.
Write that down again as a coherent sentence. Your lack of education is showing again. :lol:
I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet, Agent 008:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:10 am

Tom Palven wrote:I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet,
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html
"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

Next question.
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Post by Tom Palven » Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:31 am

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Tom Palven wrote:I've asked before, but haven't gotten your thoughts about this yet,
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html
"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"

It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.

Next question.
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The link I copied is to the summary, but the link in the first sentence of the summary goes to the 3-part series that names names and lays out verifiable facts.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html

You have stated that my links to Wikipedia articles about number of US military bases and military operations and so on and other sources I've cited are all nonsense, too, but while you claim to be a scialist, your positioms are neoconservative.

Is there any position at all that Michael Pompeo, Bibi Netanyahu, William Krystol, Sean Hannity, or James Clapper takes that you don't support, Agent 008?

While your blanket condemnation of the linked website could have merit, you haven't refuted anything the article said to support your opinion.

Wikipedia effectively says that the World Socialist Website is a legitimate news source, but then again, you dispute Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Socialist_Web_Site
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:31 pm

Tom Palven's latest conspiracy claim and "evidence".

"The CIA takeover of the Democratic Party"
"... the World Socialist Web Site documented an unprecedented influx of intelligence and military operatives into the Democratic Party"
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03 ... s-m13.html


Tom Palven wrote:The link I copied is to the summary, but the link in the first sentence of the summary goes to the 3-part series that names names and lays out verifiable facts.
You are lying again. Not one name of a CIA person in the Democrat party, is given. I don't think you have actually read your own link and you are lying again.

Set out below the three most compelling facts from the article that the CIA has taken over the Democratic Party using secret operatives and intelligence officers.


You can't do this, can you? :lol:

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:43 pm

Tom Palven wrote: Is there any position at all that Michael Pompeo, Bibi Netanyahu, William Krystol, Sean Hannity, or James Clapper takes that you don't support, Agent 008?
You are slightly retarded right? :lol:

1)I started the anti-"Bibi" Netanyahu threads.

2) We don't get US TV hosts Sean Hannity or William Krystol in Australia, as Australia is not part of the USA as you keep getting confused about.


3) What is Michael Pompeo's "position" that I'm meant to have an opinion on? You haven't got a clue what you are even claiming.

Sorry Tom. You have a low IQ and you can't string coherent claims together. You get confused about the difference between Australia and the USA and think people overseas see your domestic TV shows. We don't. Get a friend to proof read your next couple posts, so you can stop making these really obvious mistakes. You won't look like such an idiot if you do this. :D

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Post by Tom Palven » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:54 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.
Wikipedia regards it as a legitimate news source, and active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.

Calling it conspiracy crap nonsense doesn't necessarily make it so in my book, coming for a guy to wants to inprsion Snowden, Manning, and Assange, guys who have exposed your lying CIA heroes.
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:14 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.
Tom Palven wrote: .....active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.
So..... your bull-{!#%@} conspiracy article that names CIA officers who penetrated the Democrat Party, doesn't actually name one CIA officer who penetrated the Democrat Party?

Did it ever occur to you that you suffer Dunning Kruger Syndrome?


"In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is."

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Post by Tom Palven » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:18 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote: It is total conspiracy crap nonsense from a conspiracy based author. It failed to actually name one active CIA officer who is a Democrat candidate. The article is aimed at low IQ idiots like yourself, who can't spell basic words and fall for convoluted hollow bull-{!#%@}.
Tom Palven wrote: .....active CIA Agents are SECRET police and would not be running for office as active CIA Agents.
So..... your bull-{!#%@} conspiracy article that names CIA officers who penetrated the Democrat Party, doesn't actually name one CIA officer who penetrated the Democrat Party?

Did it ever occur to you that you suffer Dunning Kruger Syndrome?


"In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their cognitive ability as greater than it is."
Here's an article about people you love, nazi control-freak scum Pompeo and Haspel, along with CIA liars John Brennan and James Clapper who belong in prison, while the true heroes Snowden, Assange, and Manning, who expose their lies, you want to put in prison:
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archive ... r-problem/

Aren't you a little bit ashamed of yourself Agent 008?
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:14 pm

Tom Palven wrote:Here's an article..........
I wouldn't wipe my arse on yet another Ron Paul conspiracy theory claim. :lol:
Tom Palven wrote:Aren't you a little bit ashamed of yourself Agent 008?
No Tom. I'm simply laughing at you. :D

Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world. :lol:
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Post by Tom Palven » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:51 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world. :lol:
I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.

But first things first, the US. Just a small case in point:

As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.

Trump now says that he want to talk to Kim Jong Un.

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?


While this alone won't prove that there is a Deep State making policy, would you agree that this would be evidence of that?
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:38 pm

Tom Palven wrote:I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.
Nope. You haven't provided one iota of evidence. :lol:
Tom Palven wrote: As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.
It is your beloved Trump who appointed the director of the CIA, you complete idiot! Do you know anything about your own country at all? :lol:

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:42 pm

Tom Palven wrote: If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?

....or Trump changed his mind.

Are you going to also claim that: because Trump changed his mind and isn't going to make "Mexico pay for the wall" that the CIA must run the world?

You really are very dumb.
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Post by Tom Palven » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:54 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Tom Palven wrote: If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?

....or Trump changed his mind.

Are you going to also claim that: because Trump changed his mind and isn't going to make "Mexico pay for the wall" that the CIA must run the world?

You really are very dumb.
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The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:54 am

TV just said that Saudi Arabia sends 70K students per year to study "in the West" and these kiddies come home and want to change Saudi society to be more like the West. This interplays with all the reforms the new King is busy setting up. He wants to empower himself of course but that means getting the worst of the corruption, and the worst of the religion, out of government (ie: him). I dunno. sounds to me like he doesn't want to live all that long.
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Post by Tom Palven » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:37 am

Tom Palven wrote:
The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.
The US will remain in Syria. Surprise, surprise.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKCN1HC2DP

Now let's see if the deep state allows Trump to talk to Kim Jong-un.

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Post by Tom Palven » Fri May 25, 2018 12:54 am

Tom Palven wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:Sooooo....Tom. Set down for us all the evidence you and Ron Paul have, that proves the CIA runs the world. :lol:
I've provided lots of evidence with regard to Bush, Obama, and Trump that points to the CIA running the US Deep State and thus the world.

But first things first, the US. Just a small case in point:

As I've said before, Trump was mandated by law to release the CIA Kennedy files but said, in effect, that the CIA wouldn't let him.

Trump now says that he want to talk to Kim Jong Un.

If Trump is persuaded not to talk to Kim, can we agree that at the very least, that the Trump administration is not fully in charge of the government, and that someone or some thing else is in charge?


While this alone won't prove that there is a Deep State making policy, would you agree that this would be evidence of that?

Of course Trump could have simply changed his mind, but this is another little dot among multitudes of dots that can be connected, many of which I've mentioned previously.
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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:36 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: "As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others........Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/

Couldn't help putting that in bold. That's the libertarian view, all right. And any attempt to keep parents from whaling the tar out of their kids would be looked on as "interference." (Get those meddling mandated reporters like doctors, teachers, and nurses out of our sacred family life.)
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Matthew Ellard quoting the Libertarian political policies of Tom Palven wrote: ".......Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government.
https://www.lp.org/platform/
Upton_O_Goode wrote:Couldn't help putting that in bold. That's the libertarian view, all right. And any attempt to keep parents from whaling the tar out of their kids would be looked on as "interference." (Get those meddling mandated reporters like doctors, teachers, and nurses out of our sacred family life.)
The hilarious irony is that Tom Palven can't spell the word "education" himself under his own policy. :lol:
Tom Palven wrote:And by the way, nothing in that statement prevents you from spending your own money to provide edcuation for anyone you want to.......
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Post by Tom Palven » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:32 am

Tom Palven wrote:
The old saw is that even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and if Trump really wants to make peace with Putin in Syria and with Kim Jong-Un, that's great:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/03/tru ... rom-syria/

However, I fully expect that if Trump seriously attempts to make peace with either Russia or North Korea, or with Iran, that the Deep State/MIC will make him an offer that he can't refuse.

Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.
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Tom Palven wrote:Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.
Poor little Tom and his Russian talk points.

The North Korean testing facility, North Korea "closed down" in May 2018 actually collapsed in early 2017.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/1 ... -200-dead/

The USA is not at war with North Korea. It is the United Nations and South Korea that is still technically at war with North Korea. Poor Tom doesn't accept UN intervention in US nationalism. :lol:

Poor little Tom, is following his Russian talk points, while pretending to be a "Libertarian" . Despite the "Libertarian" policy of non-interference overseas, Tom is even more in love with Trump for ending the war between North Korea and the USA which doesn't actually exist. Meanwhile North Korea is building a new test facility. :D

Why poor little Tom worried about the USA being attacked by North Korea's low yield, old style atom bomb on a 1940's missile that has no accuracy, is beyond comprehension. It is South Korea and Japan that are at risk. I guess Tom doesn't care, because they are just Asians.....If it makes sense to Trump and Sean Hannity , it's good enough for Tom. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Tom Palven » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:42 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: It is South Korea and Japan that are at risk. I guess Tom doesn't care, because they are just Asians.....If it makes sense to Trump and Sean Hannity , it's good enough for Tom. [/color] :lol: :lol: :lol:
The South Korean and Japanese governments are pleased with the summit rresults:
https://news.antiwar.com/2018/06/12/sou ... t-results/
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:56 am

Tom Palven wrote: The South Korean and Japanese governments are pleased with the summit rresults:
Both Japan and South Korea are complaining that Trump did not warn them that Trump was ending joint military maneuvers. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:00 am

Tom Palven wrote:Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.
You numb-skull. It took 10 days after your beloved Trump got tricked by North Korea, to meet Jong Un for a photo shoot , before he was advised that North Korea was continuing to test missile engines.

"Ten days after he told the US that North Korea was no longer a problem, Donald Trump has backflipped, saying the regime still presents an “extraordinary threat”.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-kor ... be1488f531

"No sign of North Korea dismantling nuclear weapons programme, Mattis admits"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... tis-admits

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Post by Tom Palven » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:39 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:Things are getting very interesting on the Korean peninsula right now, and we should know within a week or so if the US Deep State/MIC can prevent the North and South Koreans from signing a peace treaty.
You numb-skull. It took 10 days after your beloved Trump got tricked by North Korea, to meet Jong Un for a photo shoot , before he was advised that North Korea was continuing to test missile engines.

"Ten days after he told the US that North Korea was no longer a problem, Donald Trump has backflipped, saying the regime still presents an “extraordinary threat”.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-kor ... be1488f531

Matthew, I replied to your above comment over in the Associated Press thread in the Conspiracies section, where I think it belongs.
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