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National Socialism

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:01 am

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Re: National Socialism

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:15 am

This one tells you a lot about human nature, too:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hi ... &FORM=VIRE
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Re: National Socialism

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:18 am

VFX: is there anything in the video you disagree with ?

Is there anything you want to highlight as really key?
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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:18 am

Tom Palven wrote:This one tells you a lot about human nature, too:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hi ... &FORM=VIRE

you are making comments without even reading or listening to the material presented... what is the point of this?

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Re: National Socialism

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:25 am

VFX wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:This one tells you a lot about human nature, too:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hi ... &FORM=VIRE

you are making comments without even reading or listening to the material presented... what is the point of this?


I did watch your video you deleted and I thought I was making the same point you were.

My bad.

What is the point you are making?
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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:28 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:VFX: is there anything in the video you disagree with ?

Is there anything you want to highlight as really key?

Some times when you get a post you need to take time to look at it and respond appropriately. Your response was within 1 min of a 25 min video which gave you no time to look, let alone make an appropriate comment. This is pathetic. I am not making a point. Anyway have a great day...

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Re: National Socialism

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:31 am

VFX wrote: This is pathetic. I am not making a point. Anyway have a great day...


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Re: z

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:41 am

I would love to know how you can watch and analyze a 25 min video in like 1 min or less... amazing feat.

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Re: z

Postby TJrandom » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:45 am

Tom is a quick study - he jumps to conclusions works fast... :lol:

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Re: z

Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:37 am

didn't click the video - didn't seem sfw.
Also, OP poster seems to have dropped the allegiance to his Party...
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Re: z

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:07 am

Z--only someone with too much time on their hands will spend 30 minutes because a stranger says "Here look at this." The activity becomes totally worthless as you demonstrate when the stranger has no ideas about the video either.

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Re: z

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:46 am

Is this a faux Venom Fang X or has the original escaped?
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Re: z

Postby Monster » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:08 pm

Listening twice as much as you speak is a sign of wisdom.

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Postby JO 753 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:15 pm

Z iznt the biggest cover up conspirasy ever, but its probably the most common. Probably over 100 examplez alredy rite here in this thred!

Just about everybody hoo speeks English iz in on it - haf uv them unwittingly and the rest.... well, you know hoo you are.
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Re: z

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Null entries are endlessly useless.
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Re: z

Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 pm

I know who this guy is. He's had several YouTube channels about creationism.

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Re: z

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:58 pm

VFX wrote:z

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Re: z

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:33 pm

Cadmusteeth wrote:I know who this guy is. He's had several YouTube channels about creationism.

And banned from the entire internet for a time. If it is Venom he's batshit crazy.
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Re: z

Postby Monster » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:

Null entries are endlessly useless.

It's the last parenthesis. This forum's software didn't render the link properly. The link is actually correct, but you need to include the closing parenthesis.

Try this:
Z_(video_game)
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Re: z

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:07 pm

Still don't know why.
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Re: z

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:24 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Cadmusteeth wrote:I know who this guy is. He's had several YouTube channels about creationism.

And banned from the entire internet for a time. If it is Venom he's batshit crazy.

I think you are referring to Sean aka VenomFangX, yup he is batshit crazy but I had that nick long before him and used it on the "arrogantatheist" forum. He and I had quite a few words, though nothing unpleasant; I could sorta see his point in a convoluted way. He is a creationist while I am atheist.
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Re: z

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:27 pm

All I can see in the video is original Nazi propaganda. There is no point watching it.

Do you want to link this again in the anti-holocaust denial subforum?

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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:28 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:VFX: is there anything in the video you disagree with ?

Is there anything you want to highlight as really key?
Bobbo there is nothing in the video I really disagree with but to me it is Cherry Picking, which is what most political parties do. No one is really going to advertise their faults; you don't get voters that way. I like it due to the fact that it shows the Socialist nature of NSDAP and not the extreme right wing part that most people think. Two sides of the same coin perhaps.

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Re: z

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:30 pm

VFX wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Cadmusteeth wrote:I know who this guy is. He's had several YouTube channels about creationism.

And banned from the entire internet for a time. If it is Venom he's batshit crazy.

I think you are referring to Sean aka VenomFangX, yup he is batshit crazy but I had that nick long before him and used it on the "arrogantatheist" forum. He and I had quite a few words, though nothing unpleasant; I could sorta see his point in a convoluted way. He is a creationist while I am atheist.
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I hope you don't expect me to believe that {!#%@}.
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Re: z

Postby VFX » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:31 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:All I can see in the video is original Nazi propaganda. There is no point watching it.

Do you want to link this again in the anti-holocaust denial subforum?

Thanks for your thoughts Matt, I can't see how this would fit into the holohoax subforum. I was looking for what people here actually think National Socialism is and not what it is portrayed as in Hollywood or even by Neo Nazi organizations.

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Re: z

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:59 pm

VFX wrote: Thanks for your thoughts Matt, I can't see how this would fit into the holohoax subforum. I was looking for what people here actually think National Socialism is and not what it is portrayed as in Hollywood or even by Neo Nazi organizations.
There are a few historians who work in media in the anti-holocaust denial subforum who can do exactly that.

(Edit) VFX is already posting in the anti-holocaust denial sub forum. Let the boys and girls sort him out down there.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby ElectricMonk » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:13 am

We know exactly what National Socialism is: a totalitarian system based on nationalism. It isn't original or unique or clever, and like all totalitarian systems, it isn't self-sustaining.
The only lessons we can learn from it is how not to run a 1,000 year lasting state.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:07 am

ElectricMonk wrote:We know exactly what National Socialism is: a totalitarian system based on nationalism

That is the common portrayal of Nazism. Thank you for your input.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby ElectricMonk » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:23 am

VFX wrote:
ElectricMonk wrote:We know exactly what National Socialism is: a totalitarian system based on nationalism

That is the common portrayal of Nazism. Thank you for your input.


That is what it is.

What modern self-declared "Neo-Nazis" preach has very little to do with National Socialism, besides racism. And what the NSDAP preached was almost entirely propaganda, based knowingly and unknowingly on false assumptions about reality.

The history of Germany from 1930-1945 is probably the most closely research period of all time: there are no big insights to be had that we weren't aware of already, and everyone who thinks they know better than the historians suffers from Dunning-Kruger.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:49 am

ElectricMonk wrote: false assumptions about reality.

Thank you, could you provide the context of what "reality" looks like please. The reality to Herr Hitler and his followers was one thing, the reality of Stalin and his followers was something quite different. The English had their own reality and so did the US. These realities perhaps have names like National Socialism, Communism, Capitalism, Socialism and many other isms or are you referring to something else, a truth or a reality beyond the common perceptions of the time.
Perhaps you are speaking of religion and the influence that has on perceptions and thoughts, each sect having its own context and aspirations on how they define reality.
How we perceive things today is probably a different reality to how things were perceived by all in 1930, and the kids today seem on a different planet to myself. Each subculture seems to have its own reality. So could you clarify that point what you mean by reality when you can please. Thanks again.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby ElectricMonk » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:17 am

The reality was that in the run-up to the war, Germany was spending way more than it generated, and needed the plunder from conquest to sustain its brand of socialism.

And the other fact was that Germany completely ignored the lessons of WWI and deluded itself into believing that the UK and the US wouldn't join a war.

Perception isn't very much the issue, except if you consider delusion a valid of kind perception.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:07 am

I liked the original better than this apologist.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby Cadmusteeth » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Ones perception of reality doesn't change what actually happened back in WWII. It can affect how you view it but
it only counts for public support. The evidence points to these events taking place.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:56 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I liked the original better than this apologist.


Which original, the Hitlerites or the Strasserists and the Sturmabteilung? ( Combat League of Revolutionary National Socialists ) A section of the Strasserists still exists the Kampfgemeinschaft Revolutionärer Nationalsozialisten, KGRNS commonly known as "The Black Front", the Sturmabteilung also still exist.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby VFX » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:59 pm

Cadmusteeth wrote:Ones perception of reality doesn't change what actually happened back in WWII. It can affect how you view it but
it only counts for public support. The evidence points to these events taking place.

Points to in some instances but not conclusive and enough room for doubt perhaps. There are other valid viewpoints which are being explored. There tends to be two opposing views which are extreme ends of the spectrum and the very muddy reality lies on a very convoluted path somewhere in between.

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Re: National Socialism

Postby Monster » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:52 pm

VFX wrote:https://youtu.be/7x1JZm7eIrQ
This is how some National Socialists see themselves, others see them as quite different. Is this indeed the real Adolf or just the "cherry picking" bits of Nazi propaganda. Is National Socialism the Monster portrayed.

I want to vomit.
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Not because of the video. I just ate way too much for lunch.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:00 pm

VFX wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I liked the original better than this apologist.


Which original, the Hitlerites or the Strasserists and the Sturmabteilung? ( Combat League of Revolutionary National Socialists ) A section of the Strasserists still exists the Kampfgemeinschaft Revolutionärer Nationalsozialisten, KGRNS commonly known as "The Black Front", the Sturmabteilung also still exist.

Well, gee, you can google.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:55 pm

From the OP:
VFX wrote:.

"Last edited by VFX on Fri Jan 19...edited 4 times in total."

Wassup? (Such edits are not only considered bad taste, they are also usually useless - the posts often have been quoted already, e.g....)


(btw, just for fun, I saved every current post you made in this thread but wont be bothering with others, since your rude behavior was already noted in the HD subforum)
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Re: National Socialism

Postby Poodle » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:09 pm

My first look at this thread. I see the OP is a meaningful punctuation mark, which I assume is what eggs is commenting on above. Then I realised what the thread was about.
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Re: National Socialism

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Maaan, you shoulda seen the z our fisherman offered the other day! :lol:
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