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Postby Aztexan » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:08 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nyt ... a.amp.html

Reports are that he'll live. {!#%@} him.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:55 pm

Google SAYS: a mere speech in 2002 that he apologized for==I don't think its correct to label him a white supremacist....ON THAT INFORMATION. Old White Guy from Louisianna? Facts are mounting up.

Closer: he does have an A+ rating from the NRA. That alone develops some bad Karma.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:15 pm

The shooter expired.
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scrmbldggs wrote:The shooter expired.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:23 pm

Except - in this case he can't say that about the enemy. ;)




Oh wait. It's Alex Jones. He'll twist it so many times that it will implicate those he targets. :?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Gord » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:31 am

Aztexan wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.amp.html

Mr. Hodgkinson also appeared to have been a fervent fan of Senator Bernie Sanders....

Gun-nuttery isn't a purely Republican deficiency. It taints many people across the political spectrum.


Or, as Bernie says:

“I am sickened by this despicable act,” Mr. Sanders said. “Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society, and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. Real change can only come about through nonviolent action.”
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Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:37 am

I mention white supremacist, you think republican.
Interesting.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:41 am

Even the Southern Baptist Convention denounced white supremacism. How will it cope with alt-right Republicans now?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby TJrandom » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:52 am

It is a sad day when politicians are being shot - even if by nutters whom they emboldened with their hate speech.

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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:54 am

Aztexan wrote:I mention white supremacist, you think republican.
Interesting.

Who/what was it that got a taste of his own White Supremacy?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:15 am

No one. It was just another average, typical Wednesday in America.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:28 am

No, it wasn't. Thats why it was on the "news."

I'm having trouble now making any sense of what you meant to say in the OP. Not meant to be right or wrong..... just random?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:54 am

I don't care about the shooter. He's dead. {!#%@} him, too.
The republican party is made up of morons, white supremacists, and other assorted filth. They don't care about anything but money and power. Dumbshit trump hires Steve Bannon and other known white supremacists to pass harmful legislation especially to affect minorities, women, and the LGBT community. Scalise gave a speech to a white supremacist group (for which he apologized) but {!#%@} him anyways. Do I care about him? Nah. I got more important things to worry about than some out of touch politician who is a willful part of this treachery playing out. Do I condone violence? No but there are those in our govt who do. Against people who look like me. So {!#%@} Scalise and his whole {!#%@} party.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:01 am

Aztexan wrote:I mention white supremacist, you think republican.
Interesting.

You now are on both sides of the issue. I favor your most recent post just above....and assume the most recent, most considered response is the more accurate one.

Any meat in explaining why you back tracked?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:05 am

I'm just ranting and raving
Don't mind me
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Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:07 am

I kind of am on both sides
I recognize the need for gun control but I am a gun owner
I don't condone violence but don't give a {!#%@} in this instance
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:12 am

There are pros and cons to all we do. Always good to recognize it. But the fence you straddled was whether or not white supremacy was involved.........or Republicans........for whatever difference is there.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:49 am

When I posted, this incident had just happened. I think one of the few facts we knew early on was that Scalise had been shot. I made no mention of the suspect or his motives or politics or anything because I didn't know. I equated white supremacist with Scalise. Actually he associates with and supports that {!#%@} piece of {!#%@} trump and his agenda, I just pointed it out. And what is the stated goal of the American white supremacist? It's to kill {!#%@} that look like me. So no sympathy from me when one of those {!#%@} gets shot. These {!#%@} have had months to disassociate themselves with this {!#%@} idiot traitor trump and his racist and sexist agenda and his racist and sexist past yet they double down. {!#%@} em. They get what they deserve. They get what's coming to them.
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Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:01 am

I didn't have a fraction of the hatred for bin Laden that I do for anyone associated with that idiot trump or his illegitimate administration.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:19 am

You look like Scalise? You have my sympathies. (rim shot...... JUST word play)
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Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:43 am

Hardy har
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

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Aztexan wrote:I mention white supremacist, you think republican.
Interesting.

Are you talking to me? :befuddled:
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:50 pm

That depends
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:42 pm

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty" //// In context....what do you think of this aphorism?

Dithering Note of Interest: While commonly attributed to Jefferson, like most "quotes" the Gun Nuts like: its just made up.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:47 pm

It means I'm ok with getting rid of govt by any means necessary when they are no longer of the people, by the people, for the people. If they start trying to pass harmful legislation with the intent of having the left riot so they can assume more power, then they are the threat that should be eliminated. If they really want to destroy America to rebuild it white, as Bannon has claimed to want, then they should be stopped before they succeed. It means if those corrupt politicians want to live by the gun then they know how the rest of that saying goes.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:53 pm

There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people." Its an aspirational goal disputed as to what it actually means in theory and practice by all who desire it.

The "revolution" so often referenced is about USING THE BALLOT BOX.

Any deeper recognition of what you advocate would reveal that its your attitude and Bannons that are more the same than different in advocating force to get what you want.

Do you really want to get what you want, or just be eternally pissed you don't get it?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby TJrandom » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:50 pm

All kumbaya now.... I predict it will last until the end of the second inning.

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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Gord » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:38 am

Aztexan wrote:That depends

Adult diapers??
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:48 am

No. My pants just fit funny.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:51 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people." Its an aspirational goal disputed as to what it actually means in theory and practice by all who desire it.

The "revolution" so often referenced is about USING THE BALLOT BOX.

Any deeper recognition of what you advocate would reveal that its your attitude and Bannons that are more the same than different in advocating force to get what you want.

Do you really want to get what you want, or just be eternally pissed you don't get it?


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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Aztexan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:44 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people." Its an aspirational goal disputed as to what it actually means in theory and practice by all who desire it.

The "revolution" so often referenced is about USING THE BALLOT BOX.

Any deeper recognition of what you advocate would reveal that its your attitude and Bannons that are more the same than different in advocating force to get what you want.

Do you really want to get what you want, or just be eternally pissed you don't get it?


I understand your point and can appreciate it. I am not being rational right now. I don't want anyone to be the victim of violence but I'm not going to waste time worrying about some politician who is. You push for evil agendas, don't be surprised when you piss someone off. And they act on it. Again, I see how dangerous this thinking can be. We live in an armed society. I'm not giving a cheap, cop-out excuse that I am simply adapting to my environment but realistically nothing much will change. You see, guns are not the issue but they are. I see how it looks when someone defends a tool whose purpose is to kill someone by citing just how dangerously unpredictable humans can be as reason to own one. It looks wrong. It could be. There is a lot wrong with us right now. All the more reason to arm yourself.

I want this administration and everyone associated with it to be removed and/or jailed. I don't want war. I don't want violence but I know it's coming. I have a family to care for so I have more important things to worry about but this can't go on. Yes I'll be eternally pissed if I don't get my way but there are ways to enact change that don't involve violence.
But these politicians need to start listening to and caring for what their constituents want. There are a lot of crazy Americans out there. And lots of guns. But that's how they want it.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:16 pm

Aztexan===well NOW...you are right on the money. correct in all respects. From wrong to right in one post..... was Beer involved?

Yes.......its all about Guns...........and Congress won't even admit it as a relevant issue.

When NOTHING CHANGES: you can expect more of the same......unless you are in a downward spiral. Things rarely stay the same. The gravity is for things to get worse.

I fear for my soul. All I have to do is type "beer" and I get thirsty. What is THAT?
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:05 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."
Sure there has. The gentlemen who wrote that truly meant it...under their quite limited definition of "people."
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:07 am

Aztexan wrote:But these politicians need to start listening to and caring for what their constituents want. There are a lot of crazy Americans out there. And lots of guns. But that's how they want it.
Notice, though, that guns are never allowed at Republican events and NRA events. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
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Notice, though, that guns are never allowed at Republican events and NRA events. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

Yeap. That means that they know their own fans well. Everybody at the gate has to go through the metal detector and gets two oxazapams free of charge. :mrgreen:
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LunaNik wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."
Sure there has. The gentlemen who wrote that truly meant it...under their quite limited definition of "people."

So...............doing the Math, you come up with what?
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LunaNik wrote:
Aztexan wrote:But these politicians need to start listening to and caring for what their constituents want. There are a lot of crazy Americans out there. And lots of guns. But that's how they want it.
Notice, though, that guns are never allowed at Republican events and NRA events. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?


It makes one wonder who they think the real savages are.
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
LunaNik wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There never has been, and never will be a government "of the people, by the people, for the people."
Sure there has. The gentlemen who wrote that truly meant it...under their quite limited definition of "people."

So...............doing the Math, you come up with what?


X = 1 big pile of {!#%@}
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby Gord » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:29 am

All governments so far have been of the people, by the people, and for the people. Who else would be running them, dogs?
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Re: White supremacist gets taste of his own medicine

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:36 am

The distinction is "THE people" as opposed to people or persons. THE people being people in general or the body politic, not individuals. Most often, governments are run for the benefit of those in power...a subset of THE people. I think this is very clear regarding "for the people." the "of" and "by" is a bit more vague coming down more to who votes? Manipulation of the franchise is a constant process showing the misalignment there.

In a very real sense, there is no "The People." Its a construct. We are all individuals acting according to our circumstances. Sadly, we all too often do allow ourselves to be herded.
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