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Post by Aztexan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:59 am

I'm pro-gun but anti-stupidity so that doesn't allow me to align myself with the NRA or the right or any of their ilk and the whole 'good guy vs a bad guy with a gun' creates more problems than it solves but I will give credit where it is due.
Good for this mama bear protecting her cubs.

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Post by TJrandom » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:56 am

Poor shot mom - the man didn`t die. I suspect that she got lucky that the car went out of control and hit the utility pole - as he might still have disarmed her and taken revenge on her and her kids.

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Post by Gord » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:00 am

...She fired a single shot to his face, she said.

“I’m not a killer, but I do believe in defending what’s mine,” she told Fox 4. “I hope that woke him up.”...

...[The man] was charged with unlawful restraint and unauthorized use of motor vehicle.
I'm against car-jacking, shooting people in the face, and leaving a 2- and a 4-year-old alone in a car with a loaded handgun in the glove compartment.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:42 am

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Post by Aztexan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:10 pm

I completely missed the fact that she left two unaccompanied children in a car alone in a vehicle. That's not very smart.
But I'm not against shooting bad guys in the face.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:20 pm

Why the weak charges? I'd think Kidnapping and Grand Theft Auto bring higher penalties??
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:22 pm

I was in a bar in Albuquerque in 2010, during the Balloon Festival. Two guys got into an argument and one shot the other. The man was shot made the mistake of not falling down, he went for his own gun. Three patrons shot him, thinking he was the original shooter.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:25 pm

I've always thought of balloons as being very unsafe.
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Post by Aztexan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:03 pm

Thought balloons are
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Post by Gord » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:52 pm

Aztexan wrote:I completely missed the fact that she left two unaccompanied children in a car alone in a vehicle.
...with a loaded gun in the glove compartment.
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Post by Aztexan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:55 pm

If they were strapped in their car seats, they probably wouldn't have had time to unbuckle the straps and get it but that doesn't excuse her behavior.
I realize that I was quick to share this story now that you've pointed out her extreme carelessness. I'm just glad it ended without the death of the kids. This woman was lucky, not smart.
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Post by Gord » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:11 pm

Yes, buckles might have saved her children from her gun.

I'm too lazy to read it again, so I'll just ask: Did the story mention how the man managed to drive the car away? I mean, did she leave the engine running? Did she leave the key in the ignition? Did he have his own key, somehow? Or did he hotwire the car?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 pm

Aztexan wrote:If they were strapped in their car seats, they probably wouldn't have had time to unbuckle the straps and get it but that doesn't excuse her behavior.
I realize that I was quick to share this story now that you've pointed out her extreme carelessness. I'm just glad it ended without the death of the kids. This woman was lucky, not smart.
People die every day from gunshot wounds inflicted by other people who just found a gun, under the cushions, in the center console, one guy "safely stored" his gun in the broiler on his stove. His gf turned the oven on and got a bullet in the guts.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:24 pm

Guns are called equalisers. That means that anyone can be a murderer.
Recent case. 92 year old woman. Son wanted her in an old age care home. She did not want to go, so she shot her son dead. See ! Equal.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:03 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Guns are called equalisers. That means that anyone can be a murderer.
Recent case. 92 year old woman. Son wanted her in an old age care home. She did not want to go, so she shot her son dead. See ! Equal.

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Kinda an interesting story. Mom demands things her own way and screw what other people want or generally good advice. Her son is exactly the same. In a conflict ..... what happens? I think Ibsen in "Dollhouse" had somewhat a relevant passage where someone shot someone else and when recalling the occurrence called the gun used "a resolver." Have always admired that wordplay.
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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am

Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
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Post by TJrandom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am
Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
Another population control measure... :?

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:20 am

TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am
Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
Another population control measure... :?
Ah, thats why they are against birth control and/or abortions - they'd lose some practice targets...
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Post by TJrandom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 am

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:20 am
TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am
Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
Another population control measure... :?
Ah, thats why they are against birth control and/or abortions - they'd lose some practice targets...
Yup - all in God’s plan... God did approve of unlimited access to military grade weapons, right? :roll:

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:51 am

TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:20 am
TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am
Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
Another population control measure... :?
Ah, thats why they are against birth control and/or abortions - they'd lose some practice targets...
Yup - all in God’s plan... God did approve of unlimited access to military grade weapons, right? :roll:
And sick, malnourished and neglected or abused kids - how else could 'he' punish the sins of fathers.
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Post by TJrandom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:50 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:51 am
TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:26 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:20 am
TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:18 am
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:02 am
Don't really know where to stick this... :pardon:

https://www.newsweek.com/child-gun-deaths-far-higher-states-most-relaxed-laws-1191849 wrote:
Double the number of children are killed by guns in states with more lenient gun laws than those with strict laws, according to research...
Another population control measure... :?
Ah, thats why they are against birth control and/or abortions - they'd lose some practice targets...
Yup - all in God’s plan... God did approve of unlimited access to military grade weapons, right? :roll:
And sick, malnourished and neglected or abused kids - how else could 'he' punish the sins of fathers.
Sins of fathers? How could that be? Aren't they Oath Keepers and strict complementarianites? What could go wrong with that?

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Oath Keepers? Nah, some are PK. (No, the other PK. :roll:)
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Post by TJrandom » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:33 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:25 pm
Oath Keepers? Nah, some are PK. (No, the other PK. :roll:)
Yes - thats the one I was looking for. :oldman:

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Post by scrmbldggs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:39 pm

TJrandom wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:33 pm
scrmbldggs wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:25 pm
Oath Keepers? Nah, some are PK. (No, the other PK. :roll:)
Yes - thats the one I was looking for. :oldman:
Which one? (There was a small addition to my post. :-P)
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Post by landrew » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:17 pm

It could have gone in so many less favorable ways. She's lucky it turned out to be the type of story the gun lobby likes to cherry-pick.
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