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Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Wed May 25, 2011 10:56 am

One Associated Press headline in today's Times-Union, Jacksonville, FL, is "Netanyahu says he's ready to compromise." Right, when hell freezes over. He made the same promises that were made to Jimmy Carter, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama, earlier, and his likely strategy will probably be to try to help elect another right-wing Reagan type. He is quoted as saying "Israel will never give up its quest for peace." Actually, Israel will never give up trying to drive all the Palestinians out of the West Bank. His Likud Party platform says no Palestinian state, and expand Israel to the Jordan River.
But, IMHO it's unlikely that Obama will allow himself to misled and then bushwacked by Netanyahu twice in a row. Obama is as tough and savvy as Netanyahu and Obama's trump card could well be not having Susan Rice veto the recognition of a Palestinian state by the UN. The battle, and test of wills, goes on.
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

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Are you basically trying to say that Netanyahu will never compromise? if so, i have a few comments on that, the first being that a compromise is the giving and taking between two or more parties to reach an agreement. obviously if he isn't agreeing with the terms of the compromise, he wont accept it. thats basics, and just as he will "never compromise" the same exact assumption can go against the other party. People are entitled to their opinions, and there is nothing wrong with Netanyahu rejecting a compromise he doesnt agree with.
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Postby rrichar911 » Sat May 28, 2011 3:56 am

Every time Israel has given up land for peace, it just encouraged Arabs to try and push them all the way to the sea.
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sat May 28, 2011 6:20 am

rrichar911 wrote:Every time Israel has given up land for peace, it just encouraged Arabs to try and push them all the way to the sea.

Richard. Can you list all the times Israel has given up land for peace.

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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Sat May 28, 2011 10:57 am

danielstern96 wrote:Are you basically trying to say that Netanyahu will never compromise? if so, i have a few comments on that, the first being that a compromise is the giving and taking between two or more parties to reach an agreement. obviously if he isn't agreeing with the terms of the compromise, he wont accept it. thats basics, and just as he will "never compromise" the same exact assumption can go against the other party. People are entitled to their opinions, and there is nothing wrong with Netanyahu rejecting a compromise he doesnt agree with.


Yes, it's doubtful that Netanyahu would ever compromise. He firmly believes that Israelis are God's Chosen People and that God is on his side. Israel made some concessions on paper in the Oslo accords, which Bill Clinton spent a lot of time hammering out, but then just ignored them and went on expanding settlements. They also made promises about settlements to Jimmy Carter,to the two Bushes.and to Obama earlier, and just ignored them, too,

Obama may have been sandbagging during his meetings with Netanyahu, pretending, that the US would automatically veto a UN Sercurity Council vote to accept a Palestinian state, although a two-state solution has been America's position for decades and it seems doubtful that UN Ambassador Susan Rice would be legally required to veto any UN resolution to that effect if Obama doesn't want it vetoed.

So, a possible scenario between now and September when the issue of a Palestinian state is supposed to come up in the UN General Assembly, is that Hamas could start proclaiming eternal love for its good neighbor, Israel, and the Arab League could trumpet again that it would provide security for Israel once a Palestinian state is established. Potential land-swaps to create contiguous states could be laid out on the table for future consideration, .with the 1967 borders serving in the interim.

Obama could lie low until the UN vote and then elequently point out in a press conference that every single Israeli objection to a peace deal had been met; and that opposing the resolution in the General Assembly to accept a Palestinian state (where almost all of the 192 members would vote for it), or vetoing ratification of a Palestinian state in the Security Council, would be a disaster to the long-term security and prosperity of America's greatest of all allies, the Israelis.

What could the Likud party do? Who could they threaten to nuke? The nuclear powers of Russia, China, and Pakistan wouldn't stand for them nuking Iran or anyone else. Consider that Obama can be patient and relentless, ie. getting elected President and getting his Obamacare passed. Consider that the conventional wisdom is that Netanyahu has embarrassed him not once, but twice. Consider that the Israelis shafted Bill Clinton after all his efforts ro achieve a just Mid-East peace and that Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State, Consider all this and consider if the upcoming UN votes could be Obam'as aces in the hole. We'll see.
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

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rrichar911 wrote:Every time Israel has given up land for peace, it just encouraged Arabs to try and push them all the way to the sea.

Richard. Can you list all the times Israel has given up land for peace.


I wouldn't call this a land for peace effort, but Israel was forced by reality to pull its occupation troops and its several thousand settlers out of the Gaza strip which has a population of about one and a half million Muslims. If Israel annexed that area, the population would be allowed to vote, ending Israel's Jewish voter majoirty, and efforts to force out Palestinians with the hardships of a blockade and other punitive measures have not worked out.
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

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Tom-Palven wrote:
danielstern96 wrote:Are you basically trying to say that Netanyahu will never compromise? if so, i have a few comments on that, the first being that a compromise is the giving and taking between two or more parties to reach an agreement. obviously if he isn't agreeing with the terms of the compromise, he wont accept it. thats basics, and just as he will "never compromise" the same exact assumption can go against the other party. People are entitled to their opinions, and there is nothing wrong with Netanyahu rejecting a compromise he doesnt agree with.


Yes, it's doubtful that Netanyahu would ever compromise. He firmly believes that Israelis are God's Chosen People and that God is on his side. Israel made some concessions on paper in the Oslo accords, which Bill Clinton spent a lot of time hammering out, but then just ignored them and went on expanding settlements. They also made promises about settlements to Jimmy Carter,to the two Bushes.and to Obama earlier, and just ignored them, too,

Obama may have been sandbagging during his meetings with Netanyahu, pretending, that the US would automatically veto a UN Sercurity Council vote to accept a Palestinian state, although a two-state solution has been America's position for decades and it seems doubtful that UN Ambassador Susan Rice would be legally required to veto any UN resolution to that effect if Obama doesn't want it vetoed.

So, a possible scenario between now and September when the issue of a Palestinian state is supposed to come up in the UN General Assembly, is that Hamas could start proclaiming eternal love for its good neighbor, Israel, and the Arab League could trumpet again that it would provide security for Israel once a Palestinian state is established. Potential land-swaps to create contiguous states could be laid out on the table for future consideration, .with the 1967 borders serving in the interim.

Obama could lie low until the UN vote and then elequently point out in a press conference that every single Israeli objection to a peace deal had been met; and that opposing the resolution in the General Assembly to accept a Palestinian state (where almost all of the 192 members would vote for it), or vetoing ratification of a Palestinian state in the Security Council, would be a disaster to the long-term security and prosperity of America's greatest of all allies, the Israelis.

What could the Likud party do? Who could they threaten to nuke? The nuclear powers of Russia, China, and Pakistan wouldn't stand for them nuking Iran or anyone else. Consider that Obama can be patient and relentless, ie. getting elected President and getting his Obamacare passed. Consider that the conventional wisdom is that Netanyahu has embarrassed him not once, but twice. Consider that the Israelis shafted Bill Clinton after all his efforts ro achieve a just Mid-East peace and that Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State, Consider all this and consider if the upcoming UN votes could be Obam'as aces in the hole. We'll see.


I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. if you could summarize that would be great. again, a compromise involves a give and take, and if netanyahu doesnt agree with the amount of give then he is entitled to decline the compromise. and about the "embarrassment" that netanyahu caused, are you aware of the things chamas has done in the past? it might not be an embarrassment to america, but there actions have been much more threatening then a "public embarrassment."
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Sat May 28, 2011 4:06 pm

danielstern96 wrote:
Tom-Palven wrote:
danielstern96 wrote:Are you basically trying to say that Netanyahu will never compromise? if so, i have a few comments on that, the first being that a compromise is the giving and taking between two or more parties to reach an agreement. obviously if he isn't agreeing with the terms of the compromise, he wont accept it. thats basics, and just as he will "never compromise" the same exact assumption can go against the other party. People are entitled to their opinions, and there is nothing wrong with Netanyahu rejecting a compromise he doesnt agree with.


Yes, it's doubtful that Netanyahu would ever compromise. He firmly believes that Israelis are God's Chosen People and that God is on his side. Israel made some concessions on paper in the Oslo accords, which Bill Clinton spent a lot of time hammering out, but then just ignored them and went on expanding settlements. They also made promises about settlements to Jimmy Carter,to the two Bushes.and to Obama earlier, and just ignored them, too,

Obama may have been sandbagging during his meetings with Netanyahu, pretending, that the US would automatically veto a UN Sercurity Council vote to accept a Palestinian state, although a two-state solution has been America's position for decades and it seems doubtful that UN Ambassador Susan Rice would be legally required to veto any UN resolution to that effect if Obama doesn't want it vetoed.

So, a possible scenario between now and September when the issue of a Palestinian state is supposed to come up in the UN General Assembly, is that Hamas could start proclaiming eternal love for its good neighbor, Israel, and the Arab League could trumpet again that it would provide security for Israel once a Palestinian state is established. Potential land-swaps to create contiguous states could be laid out on the table for future consideration, .with the 1967 borders serving in the interim.

Obama could lie low until the UN vote and then elequently point out in a press conference that every single Israeli objection to a peace deal had been met; and that opposing the resolution in the General Assembly to accept a Palestinian state (where almost all of the 192 members would vote for it), or vetoing ratification of a Palestinian state in the Security Council, would be a disaster to the long-term security and prosperity of America's greatest of all allies, the Israelis.

What could the Likud party do? Who could they threaten to nuke? The nuclear powers of Russia, China, and Pakistan wouldn't stand for them nuking Iran or anyone else. Consider that Obama can be patient and relentless, ie. getting elected President and getting his Obamacare passed. Consider that the conventional wisdom is that Netanyahu has embarrassed him not once, but twice. Consider that the Israelis shafted Bill Clinton after all his efforts ro achieve a just Mid-East peace and that Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State, Consider all this and consider if the upcoming UN votes could be Obam'as aces in the hole. We'll see.


I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here. if you could summarize that would be great. again, a compromise involves a give and take, and if netanyahu doesnt agree with the amount of give then he is entitled to decline the compromise. and about the "embarrassment" that netanyahu caused, are you aware of the things chamas has done in the past? it might not be an embarrassment to america, but there actions have been much more threatening then a "public embarrassment."


In summary, Bibi Netanyahu is a rational-sounding Likud hardliner and political weasel who may be in for a surprise at the UN.
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Quasi-Skeptic » Sun May 29, 2011 12:57 am

ok. well i disagree with your views, but thats a matter of perspective. as for the "surprise", i guess we will have to wait and see.
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danielstern96 wrote:ok. well i disagree with your views, but thats a matter of perspective. as for the "surprise", i guess we will have to wait and see.


Fair enough.
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rrichar911 wrote:Every time Israel has given up land for peace, it just encouraged Arabs to try and push them all the way to the sea.

Gaza actually is a narrow strip of land along the coast of a sea with one of the highest population densities on Earth, and the idea that Israel no longer governs the territory is laughably ridiculous. "Israelis push Arabs all the way to the sea" is far more descriptive of the reality. Your statement is incredibly Orwellian.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:17 am

A former chief of Israeli intelligence, Meir Dagan, has urged political leaders to embrace the so-called Saudi peace initiative under which Israel would withdraw to its 1967 borders and give East Jerusalem back to the Palestinians.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/former-moss ... rom=smh_sb

I wasn't expecting this. I don't know if it is significant or not. It may simply be a political manouvre to the effect of "Hey CIA, Mi6 and SVR, keep sharing info with our intelligence services. We are reasonable. It is the Knesset who is delaying" Then again, the man may simply be expressing his personal views. I really don't know.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:34 am

Tom-Palven wrote:Some late developments:
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... y-1.365035


Thanks for that. It is a factual based editorial that explains the reality quite well.

I understand that the aim is to isolate the USA on the security council so its veto sticks out like dogs balls and I really think elements of the USA government hate having to justify this silly veto. However the American have got to do what they think is best and we can't knock Americans expressing themselves even if we don't agree with them. The UN is a working system (although very expensive) and until the security council is expanded and modified we all have to follow UN rules.

Frankly, if Germany and India join the security council it won't make any difference. Perhaps we need two vetos to squash a resolution rather than just one. (Then again this would mean more lobbying on the actual words set out in a draft resolution) Everything is a "trade off" at the UN.

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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

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"Before the UN vote on a Palestinnian state..."
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Israel approves new settlement expansion:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... m-1.378218
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Postby Tom Palven » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:01 am

Everyone seems to assume that a US veto of a Palestinian state at the UN is a foregone conclusion, but we'll see.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 28,00.html
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Postby OutOfBreath » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:50 am

Well, if history is a guide, the US veto in favour of Israeli interests would be a foregone conclusion.

However, things are changing in the arab world, and the US also want to stay on the good side of the newly dictator-free countries in the vicinity of Israel. They might actually choose not to take the flak they'll get to be more or less the sole country blocking this initiative. And Israel may possibly not be the only democratic country down there anymore, reducing their strategic importance in the longer term.

It'll be interesting to see how it pans out. I'd think it would be a stroke of genius by the palestinians of they could circumvent the entire locked situation with total Israeli military control, by scoring a diplomatic win Israel didn't see coming. The timing, with the arab spring and all, is spectacularly lucky as well.

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Postby Churchill » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:47 am

The Palestinian regime could have had peace and a state since 1948 and could have it now if they allow for the existence of a Jewish state as their neighbours, something which thus far they cannot bring themselves to do. Most people ask of Israel something which they themselves would not consider doing even a small fraction of.

Outofbreath, I certainly hope this Arab spring is for real. Only time will tell. More countries joining the democratic club in the middle east will be a good thing long term. But for now, it is only speculative.

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Postby Churchill » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:55 am

Martin Brock wrote:
rrichar911 wrote:Every time Israel has given up land for peace, it just encouraged Arabs to try and push them all the way to the sea.

Gaza actually is a narrow strip of land along the coast of a sea with one of the highest population densities on Earth, and the idea that Israel no longer governs the territory is laughably ridiculous. "Israelis push Arabs all the way to the sea" is far more descriptive of the reality. Your statement is incredibly Orwellian.

Hitler was basically the reincarnation of Moses. He only chose a different chosen people, so he needed to rid his chosen lands of other chosen peoples. The historical irony boggles the mind.


Israel does not control the Gaza strip Martin. What happens inside is run by Hamas, the terrorist group much adored by certain western intellectuals. Israel does have some leverage there as they control the territory around the Gaza strip and much of what can go in and out, but does not set the rules within. And did you really need to godwin the thread. You are supposed to keep the Israel=Nazis thing subtle remember.

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Postby OutOfBreath » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:50 am

Churchill wrote:Outofbreath, I certainly hope this Arab spring is for real. Only time will tell. More countries joining the democratic club in the middle east will be a good thing long term. But for now, it is only speculative.

Well, it's at least a healthy break from an absolutely unhealthy stalemate in several of those countries. How democratic they end up remains to be seen, but for the time being, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. Fewer authoritarian dictators can only be a good thing imo.

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and what evidence do you have to support that israel=nazis exactly?
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Churchill wrote: What happens inside is run by Hamas, the terrorist group much adored by certain western intellectuals.
and Israel...

When Israel was trying to keep the secular PLO and it's rising FATAH faction from controlling the Palestinian territories it did an interesting thing...it sponsored an early Islamic "Hamas" when the PLO government was exiled to Beirut. This is back in the early 1970s.

http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PU ... 11847.html
http://middleeast.about.com/od/israelan ... 090126.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

As late as 2006 Kadima was still promoting Hamas as the better alternative to Fatah although the rhetoric that FATAH was a "commie" organisation had ceased. "Western Intellectuals" were reminded of Hamas's charity work and that Israel tolerated religious freedon in the Jewish state's controlled territories.

I am suggesting that the original 1970's political maneuvering of Israel created a religious group that evolved into a terrorist group in their own midst. Time has rolled on and some people have forgotten why we are, where we are today. I see some simularities to the USA's use of Islamic Mujahideen via Pakistan to annoy the Soviets which is still going on but not against the Soviets anymore...it's against western pro-American countries.

I believe the expression in intelligence circles is "Blowback".

Frankly I don't understand why Israel doesn't bit the bullet and disclose all their original funding for Hamas, simply to debase them and allow the more reasonable secular Fatah to govern in its own right. My gut feeling is that this will embarass some still active Israeli politicians ( Barak & Livni ) but I don't really know that.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:22 am

Tom-Palven wrote:One Brit's view of the situation:

http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... britain-s-


Well he's right.

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Postby Tom Palven » Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:30 am

76 year-old Mahmoud Abbas became Chairman of the PLO in 2004 and has been acting like a US/Israeli puppet ever since, and now? Surprise, surprise.
Haven't heard too much from our Secretary of State about all this except that she said she "supports a two-state solution," and then yadafied a bit.
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"For almost a year, Israel has abandoned the UN forum and not responded to the vigorous activities of the Palestinians" Well that's bad diplomacy for you. However stealing other UN members passports to do "hits" may have not have helped the lobbying process with members of the general assembly. Israel's international diplomacy needs a lot of work.

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Postby Tom Palven » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:38 am

US foreign policy continues to have an amazing, almost Alice in Wonderland quality to it, that is truly a joy to watch unfold. Boy, was I wrong in the OP.

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Postby Tom Palven » Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:44 pm

Pat Buchanan says that Obama is on Netanyahu's wrong side. I hope he stays that way, and that the Iranians can live in peace.
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Postby Tom Palven » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:56 am

Now that Obama is a lame duck, will he remain an obstacle to a Palestinian state and side with Netanyahu who dissed him in the US Congress twice, and all but formally endorsed Romney?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/no ... s-abbas-un

What is most laughable is Moshe Yaalon's contention that a move toward a Palestinian state would damage the Oslo accords. The Oslo accords were supposed to be a step toward a Palestinian state and called for a halt to Israeli expansion, and the Israeli government has totally ignored them. The Likud exremists have continued to disenfranchise Palestinians and expand the settlements from the day that Israel agreed to the accords..

Now, Israel is massing troops on the Gaza border, and apparently not content to murder emerging Hamas leaders with air strikes, will attempt to overthrow Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas
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Postby Tom Palven » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:42 pm

A Turkish news report on the recent conflict in Gaza.

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/14487 ... n-bid.html
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Postby Tom Palven » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:00 pm

Today's news: China supports Palestinian statehood

http://www.timesofisrael.com/china-supp ... ian-envoy/

A vote on partial statehood is to take place in the UN next Thursday, Nov 29.

http://www.birminghampost.net/news/poli ... -32293790/
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Postby Tom Palven » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:57 pm

I'm wondering if Obama is shedding crocodile tears over this:
http://www.boston.com/news/world/united ... story.html
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:22 am

Tom-Palven wrote:I'm wondering if Obama is shedding crocodile tears over this:
http://www.boston.com/news/world/united ... story.html


We had a bit of a rebellion in Australia. The Prime Minister, Julia Gillard wanted to vote "No" because she feared America would cut off the 600mil it gives to FATAH each year. However both the right factions and left factions of the Australian Labor Party warned her she would put "Australia on the wrong side of history".

Our current foreign minister, Bob Carr and our ambassador to the USA, Kim Beasley are lovers of American history and yet they too said they would remove her a prime minister.

Australia "abstained" and this was the compromise. We should have voted "Yes".

The USA is not going to punish Australia. The USA wants a fleet base in West Australia and an infantry base in the Northern Territory. The USA want to share in our regional intelligence again. Israel stole our passports and so their lobbyists are politely told to "piss off" when whinging around Canberra.


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politi ... 2ae77.html

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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:04 pm

Pay-back time for Netanyahu? From today's Wall Street Journal.:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 90066.html
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby OutOfBreath » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:46 pm

Wasn't that piece all about how a certain american senator isn't "pro-Israel" enough? That's how I read it anyway.

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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:05 pm

OutOfBreath wrote:Wasn't that piece all about how a certain american senator isn't "pro-Israel" enough? That's how I read it anyway.

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Yes, but the story below and others like it say that this former Republican Senator from Nebraska is Obama's choice for Sec. of Defense, which is why the attack from the WSJ.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-New ... Obama-ties
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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby OutOfBreath » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:10 pm

Ah, like that. I see.
Well, we'll see about that. But Israel is running out of friends fast, and their current administration doesn't seem to care much about that. Hopefully their moral loss in the last engagement on Gaza will give them a wake-up call.

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Re: Netanyahu Says He Will Compromise

Postby Tom Palven » Tue May 07, 2013 7:02 am

Israeli official says that Google is a threat to peace:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... erritories
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