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Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:47 am
by ElectricMonk
It's a typical thing for Trump to say because he thinks he can 'cheat' the political process: we have a number of different reports of his cheating at golf and getting away with it because, hey, he's entertaining.

In the same way, he thinks he can incite violence and anger and still keep his support of more moderates .

And he might be absolutely right about that,

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:42 am
by Aztexan
Goddammit, Electric Monk, just tell me I'm fat and ugly and a plane will fall on my head as the bus hits me while I'm being shot while on fire. Then kick me in the balls.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:26 pm
by scrmbldggs
I actually tortured myself and listened to the tape - for about three minutes. In which he (paraphrased) went on about jobs going to China (booooo), and how that country cheats (boooooooo), and what a great business relationship he has with it... :purplex:

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:28 am
by zeuzzz
He's started a cult. Even when he loses its can't see him stopping .... err .... what ever it is he's doing now. Which I'm fairlying sure is just a prolonged public ego masterbation session.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:45 am
by ElectricMonk
Trump's appeal will disappear like smoke if not elected: after Clinton's inauguration the media will find more interesting things to talk about and he will only be remembered like an old sitcom people used to watch.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:42 pm
by scrmbldggs
Quite scary that the same people with such vast knowledge and strong convictions would be voting for any candidude, actually...

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:54 am
by Matthew Ellard
zeuzzz wrote:He's started a cult. Even when he loses i can't see him stopping .....
Electric Monk is right about the future. Trump will disappear.

Trump already established a "Trump cult". The Doonesbury cartoons from the 80's indicate that. From cult busting activities, there is a general rule : The cult leader must keep the cult's framework mysterious and ambiguous or the cult fails. Therefore Mr Trump has a problem. The more he attempts to become reasonable and clarify his policies, the more of his current "fuzzy logic" followers will abandon him.

Frankly, I don't think it is an issue anymore. There are a lot of indicators that Trump is preparing to either bail out before the election or prepare to blame "mysterious forces" for a landslide vote against him.

I think Trump is an idiot and his recent extreme comments are his self-conceived, poor attempt for the equivalent of "death by moderator" with the moderate press serving as the moderators.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:09 pm
by Gord
Aztexan wrote:It only applies to brown people

Orange is a type of brown.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:46 pm
by Aztexan
Orange is the new Nazi

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:53 pm
by zeuzzz
zeuzzz wrote:He's started a cult. Even when he loses its can't see him stopping .... err .... what ever it is he's doing now. Which I'm fairlying sure is just a prolonged public ego masterbation session.


Jesus, that's the last time I use my phone with predictive typing on to post here.

ElectricMonk wrote:Trump's appeal will disappear like smoke if not elected: after Clinton's inauguration the media will find more interesting things to talk about and he will only be remembered like an old sitcom people used to watch.


Point taken, Trump has played on the mainstream medias proclivity for sensationalism like a voilin, and I'm not even sure he meant to. It's all been a continual massive accident that keeps working in his favor as it gives him constant free media coverage.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:06 am
by TJrandom
I haven`t heard another `spill my coffee` blurt-out from Trump for, what is it now… some 48 hours? What gives? He must be slipping. :D

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:04 am
by ElectricMonk
TJrandom wrote:I haven`t heard another `spill my coffee` blurt-out from Trump for, what is it now… some 48 hours? What gives? He must be slipping. :D


Will this tide you over?

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSKCN10P01W

Trump campaigning in Connecticut ( where he is only 80points behind), threatening to revoke everyone's press credentials if they keep on writing bad things about him and again saying Obama founded ISIS.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:07 pm
by Aztexan
I think I can answer that, TJ:
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/presid ... ent/25637/

What a dipshit that trump guy is.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:58 pm
by JO 753

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:19 pm
by ElectricMonk
This is too painful to watch.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:09 pm
by TJrandom
ElectricMonk wrote:This is too painful to watch.


Painful indeed.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:53 pm
by Aztexan
Please tell me those people were in on the bit

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:16 am
by TJrandom
Aztexan wrote:Please tell me those people were in on the bit


Nope - just regular GOP voters.... scary isn`t it....

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:22 am
by JO 753
Its funny, but I worry kuz I no too many peepl in RL who will vote for Trump.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:29 am
by TJrandom
JO 753 wrote:Its funny, but I worry kuz I no too many peepl in RL who will vote for Trump.


Same here - no shortage of racist good old boys who would vote Republican even if the platform incuded castration. :cry:

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:20 am
by ElectricMonk
I'm still a bit skeptical: they must have signed their waivers for broadcasting without reading them.
Who would do that?
That would be like making an iTunes purchase without reading the Terms and Conditions!

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:51 am
by Gord
ElectricMonk wrote:This is too painful to watch.

I had to stop. I don't like feeling sympathy for Trump supporters. :heh:

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:02 am
by Aztexan
I spend all day calling trump supporters stupid and idiot but when I see actual trump supporters, I have a hard time believing anyone can be that stupid.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:14 pm
by Fab Yolis
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?


I don't watch or read FOX.

Yes you do. You just get it second-hand.


Some splendid circular reasoning you've got going on there.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:16 pm
by TJrandom
Just awoke from your drunken slumber did you? Better go back to sleep....

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:19 pm
by Fab Yolis
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?

I don't watch or read FOX.

You sure spout it though. What conspiracy site did you get it from?


I didn't get it from any "conspiracy site", I have just compared what the mainstream enemedia says about him versus what he actually says and does.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?


I don't watch or read FOX.

Yes you do. You just get it second-hand.


Some splendid circular reasoning you've got going on there.

Nope, you recite the official line of Faux News and you didn't make that {!#%@} up yourself, so you got it second, third or nth hand. Whose prayer meetings have you been attending?

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:48 pm
by Fab Yolis
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?


I don't watch or read FOX.

Yes you do. You just get it second-hand.


Some splendid circular reasoning you've got going on there.

Nope, you recite the official line of Faux News and you didn't make that {!#%@} up yourself, so you got it second, third or nth hand. Whose prayer meetings have you been attending?


I'm not reciting anything. Support of Trump does not ipso facto mean that I am relying on Fox News.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:01 pm
by ElectricMonk
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?


I don't watch or read FOX.

Yes you do. You just get it second-hand.


Some splendid circular reasoning you've got going on there.

Nope, you recite the official line of Faux News and you didn't make that {!#%@} up yourself, so you got it second, third or nth hand. Whose prayer meetings have you been attending?


I'm not reciting anything. Support of Trump does not ipso facto mean that I am relying on Fox News.


Breitbart then?

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:02 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
Different name, same BS.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:04 pm
by Fab Yolis
Matthew Ellard wrote:Go shoot Hillary Clinton
Donald Trump created another firestorm on Tuesday when he seemed to suggest violence as a means of preventing Hillary Clinton from nominating judges.

"If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks," Trump told a crowd in Wilmington, North Carolina. "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is I don't know."

This received front page coverage in Australia. You have presidential candidate who is suggesting to citizens they may be able to shoot another politician, who they don't agree with.


Trump was referring to political action by gun rights advocates, like what occurred in the 1994 mid-terms when they helped to give control over both houses to the Republicans after the passage of a gun control bill the year before.

Meanwhile, where is the outcry over Killary's threat to assassinate Obama in 2008? Especially in light of the several recent untimely deaths of some of her detractors? Where is the outcry over the assassination threats and attempts that have been made against Trump??

The really bad thing is the USA is not doing anything about this as a unified country that offers itself as a model for younger democracies.


:lol: Are you kidding me?? After what happened to JFK, RFK, and Reagan, not to mention recent developments like the disastrous attempts at "nation building" in the mid-east and the advent of the Patriot Acts, you think this is the thing that endangers the USA's ability to act as a "model for younger democracies"?


This is now way beyond party partisan issues and is now simply damaging to the USA. Australia loses out if the USA damages its image.


How does Australia lose out?? Last time I checked it was an independent country with a completely different political system from that of the US.


Australia pays for USA military deterrent.
Trump sates that USA allies will help pay for the USA's extended deterrence that helps protects us.

Does that mean Australia also gets the two keys to the President's nuclear football?


Hey, if you don't want to pay you can always try standing on your own two military feet. Or you could try cosying up to China (let us know how that works out for you).

No you don't get control over the US nuclear arsenal, and why would you?? If being under the US military/nuclear umbrella isn't enough for you free-riders, then go and build your own nukes!

Does that mean we can charge the USA for our war against communists in Malaya and Indonesia, which the Americans were too busy to fight, as they were too busy losing Vietnam.....where we were also fighting?


Only after they charge you for services rendered in WW2.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:33 pm
by JO 753
Interesting Wiki article about rite wing radio. I wuz completely unaware uv The Fairness Doctrine or that it wuz eliminated.

Thats how the United States got stoopified! The national equivelent uv deregulating the chimney exhaust off the water heater! Wuz dat for? I dont need dat! Trow it in du garbaj, I dont smell nuffin.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:04 am
by Matthew Ellard
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:Trump was referring to political action by gun rights advocates
No he wasn't. He was hinting people should shoot the future president of the United States. It was clear in its meaning.

Matthew Ellard wrote:The really bad thing is the USA is not doing anything about this as a unified country that offers itself as a model for younger democracies.
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:Are you kidding me?? After what happened to JFK, RFK, and Reagan,
They are not running in this election nor get exposure on younger democracy television sets and media.

Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:How does Australia lose out?? Last time I checked it was an independent country with a completely different political system from that of the US.
ANZUS The military treaty between the USA, Australia and New Zealand, You don't have the world biggest Muslim country as a neighbour. We do. Australia and New Zealand keep it calm. Trump is not helping our calming policies.

Matthew Ellard wrote: Trump states that USA allies will help pay for the USA's extended deterrence that helps protects us. Does that mean Australia also gets the two keys to the President's nuclear football?
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:Hey, if you don't want to pay you can always try standing on your own two military feet. Or you could try cosying up to China (let us know how that works out for you).
Firstly, we do stand on our own two feet. I didn't see the USA fighting in Indonesia and Malaya, yet here was ANZACs happily helping the USA in Vietnam. Secondly we have already been "cosying" up to China for twenty years.

Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:No you don't get control over the US nuclear arsenal, and why would you??
Because Trump wants us to pay for it. It's that simple.

Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:If being under the US military/nuclear umbrella isn't enough for you free-riders, then go and build your own nukes!
...and are you going to build another Pine Gap and Jindalee Radar system that can see stealth aircraft? Good luck..

So as NATO and ANZUS slowly set into the sun under Trump and new economic alliances form away from USA participation, has it occurred to you that next time the USA gets into a quagmire that Australia and New Zealand may not be so willing to help out?

And this is your "preferred" future policy? Good luck.
:lol:

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:36 am
by Aztexan
You see, when President Obama says that police need to improve relations with minorities, the right wing idiot heard, "Black people need to kill cops".
Now some people called for the killing of police in retaliation for the shooting deaths of unarmed black men and those people are wrong. A lone gunman kills 5 cops and your typical right wing idiot blame the president.
But when that dipshit coward trump clearly meant to suggest shooting her for his own political gain, your typical right wing idiot now says words have no consequences or meaning or any number of excuses but the only difference I see is in the skin color of the person saying it. Venerable Kwan Tam Woo supports a violent racist so I can only conclude that he is one, too.
Plus he's a dipshit like his bitch, trump

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:42 am
by JO 753
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Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:28 pm
by Gord
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
Gord wrote:
Venerable Kwan Tam Woo wrote:
zeuzzz wrote:Trumps had a bad week

So far Trump's had nothing but bad weeks according to the mainstream enemedia's propaganda war against him...

Wow, you have really swallowed the FOX kool-aid, haven't you?

I don't watch or read FOX.

You sure spout it though. What conspiracy site did you get it from?

I didn't get it from any "conspiracy site", I have just compared what the mainstream enemedia says about him versus what he actually says and does.

Yes you did. Where do you think terms like "enemedia" came from?

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:33 pm
by Gord
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Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:04 pm
by zeuzzz
Despite my obvious political differences with Venerable Kwan Tam Woo I can't help thinking he has a point ... in terms of how much dirt there is on Hilary for him to start bringing up, and in terms of how easy it is to manipulate people through the mainstream media outlets.

Trump supporters are generally dumb, yea, I think we can all agree on that as a generalization; but the same could be said for the fervant Hillary supporters, most of which are not really sure why they are supporting her in terms of actual policy change.

She does have a vagina though, apparently that makes a huge difference. :roll:

There are clever people supporting both sides too, but just by basic demographics they are far outnumbered by the masses, that are all extremely influenced by the whims of emotive media hyperbole, based far more on sensationalism than actual concerete policies that effect the very people who will be voting.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:07 pm
by TJrandom
zeuzzz wrote:Despite my obvious political differences with Venerable Kwan Tam Woo I can't help thinking he has a point ... in terms of how much dirt there is on Hilary for him to start bringing up, and in terms of how easy it is to manipulate people through the mainstream media outlets.

Trump supporters are generally dumb, yea, I think we can all agree on that as a generalization; but the same could be said for the fervant Hillary supporters, most of which are not really sure why they are supporting her in terms of actual policy change.

She does have a vagina though, apparently that makes a huge difference. :roll:

There are clever people supporting both sides too, but just by basic demographics they are far outnumbered by the masses, that are all extremely influenced by the whims of emotive media hyperbole, based far more on sensationalism than actual concerete policies that effect the very people who will be voting.


I`ve said it before - either here on these forums, or maybe it was another site somewhere - but I know why I would support Hillary. It is simply because of the depths of depravity that the Republicans stooped to in order to impeach Bill - for what? For doing exactly what they themselves would have done, or were doing, but just hadn’t yet been caught at. Simple really.

On the other hand - with Trump as the Republican candidate, Micky Mouse would have made an acceptable opposition candidate.

Re: Trump's supporters

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:18 am
by ElectricMonk
Bush had a campaign finance scandal and actual treason committed by people on his inner circle. Never mind swinging lucrative deals the way Cheney's companies.
These things were actually criminal by any judges standard, but did the Republicans call for an impeachment?

Nothing that Clinton has done is even remotely as criminal.