New Jim Crow

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New Jim Crow

Postby Lausten » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:17 pm

Hopefully you have heard of this book.

I'm about half way through. It starts with a chapter from the early days of indentured servitude up to the civil rights era. Then it starts to get into the details of a few court cases that have re-institutionalized racism. We call them felons or drug dealers or welfare cases, but the laws are designed so people with dark skin can be discriminated against and nothing can be done about it.

In one case, they had the data showing vast racial differences throughout the state, so they wanted to overturn their specific conviction and sentence of death. So, they showed the data and petitioned for data on that prosecutor. But since they didn't have data showing that particular prosecutor was prejudice, they weren't allow to see the data they asked for. Serious irony there.

The book hasn't mentioned his name yet, but I think Scalia had a lot to do with this.
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:29 pm

There really is no "New" Jim Crow. Its just Jim Crow rolling along. From Southern Chain Gangs sold out to work cotton fields, to the new for profit prison system with Prison Corp lobbying hard for 3 strikes and longer jail sentences and keeping MJ illegal: its the same old same old.

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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby TJrandom » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:04 pm

AbeBooks ... bookmarked - thanks.

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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby Lausten » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:59 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:There really is no "New" Jim Crow. Its just Jim Crow rolling along. From Southern Chain Gangs sold out to work cotton fields, to the new for profit prison system with Prison Corp lobbying hard for 3 strikes and longer jail sentences and keeping MJ illegal: its the same old same old.

"There is nothing new under the sun."

Hallelujah, we agree
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:10 pm

Yes, that is a good thing. I am surpised a bit you don't counter with: "There were jails 300 years ago." Factually true, and totally irrelevant.

I know you know what I mean...... you just have to come to grips with it.
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:57 pm

the medical system is an important part of the psychiatric prison system .
the 2 ( police and doctors ) work together to exterminate anyone they get ahold of ; race may be their main target , but
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .

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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby Gord » Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:40 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:the medical system is an important part of the psychiatric prison system .
the 2 ( police and doctors ) work together to exterminate anyone they get ahold of ; race may be their main target , but

Well that's because Hitler won WWII. Obviously.
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:39 am

Gord wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:the medical system is an important part of the psychiatric prison system .
the 2 ( police and doctors ) work together to exterminate anyone they get ahold of ; race may be their main target , but

Well that's because Hitler won WWII. Obviously.


thanx for the response -
simple fact is that as vicious as the Nazis were ; compared to today they were honest and naïve .
people today have perfected the way to get rid of people they do not like .
they actually get the people to pay them for the poisons that will wreck their health .
Nazi jew - why does Nazi automatically switch to capital and jew does not :burn:
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .

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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby Gord » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:56 am

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby Lausten » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:46 pm

psychiatry is a scam wrote:
Gord wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:the medical system is an important part of the psychiatric prison system .
the 2 ( police and doctors ) work together to exterminate anyone they get ahold of ; race may be their main target , but

Well that's because Hitler won WWII. Obviously.


thanx for the response -
simple fact is that as vicious as the Nazis were ; compared to today they were honest and naïve .
people today have perfected the way to get rid of people they do not like .
they actually get the people to pay them for the poisons that will wreck their health .

This is totally irrelevant. This book is about the re-creation of debtors prisons and the re-enslavement that occurred after the Civil War by making laws that required former slaves to be employed or pay meaningless fines. Once they broke a simple rule like that, they were thrown back into a system where they had to pay that off by going back to the same plantations they had just left. Today, we might call it a work/program, but really, they are paying to live in a housing unit for minor criminals, and work at below poverty wage.They have a fine to pay, but they also have to pay to be in the program. There is no way to pay off both.
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Re: New Jim Crow

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:32 am

Lausten wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:
Gord wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:the medical system is an important part of the psychiatric prison system .
the 2 ( police and doctors ) work together to exterminate anyone they get ahold of ; race may be their main target , but

Well that's because Hitler won WWII. Obviously.


thanx for the response -
simple fact is that as vicious as the Nazis were ; compared to today they were honest and naïve .
people today have perfected the way to get rid of people they do not like .
they actually get the people to pay them for the poisons that will wreck their health .

This is totally irrelevant. This book is about the re-creation of debtors prisons and the re-enslavement that occurred after the Civil War by making laws that required former slaves to be employed or pay meaningless fines. Once they broke a simple rule like that, they were thrown back into a system where they had to pay that off by going back to the same plantations they had just left. Today, we might call it a work/program, but really, they are paying to live in a housing unit for minor criminals, and work at below poverty wage.They have a fine to pay, but they also have to pay to be in the program. There is no way to pay off both.



is not - and this is a religion section
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .


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