Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

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Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby Phoenix76 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:07 am

Perhaps the heading of this post is a little extreme, but this story clearly shows that the tomb of JC that resides in a shrine within the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem could not be the tomb of JC.

The tomb that, according to legend, held the body of Jesus Christ dates back almost 1,700 years, scientific tests show.

"Tests using a technique called optically stimulated luminescence (OSL) of mortar from the limestone bed revealed when the quartz within the masonry was last exposed to light. The results showed that the bed was constructed around A.D. 345, during or shortly after the reign of Constantine the Great. The test results were released today (Nov. 28) by the National Geographic Society."

The above test refers to the testing of a bed of limestone within the coffin. So the coffin was made more than 300 years after the alleged death of JC. Interestingly, that coincides with the time when parts of the bible were written. But the 345 years certainly matches up with Constantine the Great, and his Mother, Helena, discovering the tomb in 327.

Worth a read for those interested in the subject. Just another nail in the coffin of religion, especially christianity. (Pun absolutely intended).

https://www.livescience.com/61043-tomb- ... 0171128-ls

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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby Aztexan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:31 am

Optically stimulated luminescence schmoptically stimulated luminescence
So you're saying the signature of baby Jesus on the US Constitution was forged?
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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:04 am

Phoenix76 wrote:The tomb that, according to legend, held the body of Jesus Christ dates back almost 1,700 years, scientific tests show.
Which seems about right. Helena, Constantine the Great's mother made up most of the artefacts when she went to Jerusalem, including the "spear of destiny" and "true cross". She dies in 330AD. She is the patron saint of new discoveries.
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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby ElectricMonk » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:31 am

In his book "Foucault’s Pendulum", Umberto Eco has two of his characters ruminate about Jesus being fictional:

“Now that you mention it, let’s see. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are a bunch of practical jokers who meet somewhere and decide to have a contest. They invent a character, agree on a few basic facts, and then each one’s free to take it and run with it. At the end, they’ll see who’s done the best job.
The four stories are picked up by some friends who act as critics: Matthew is fairly realistic, but insists on that Messiah business too much; Mark isn’t bad, just a little sloppy; Luke is elegant, no denying that; and John takes the philosophy a little too far. Actually, though, the books have an appeal, they circulate, and when the four realize what’s happening, it’s too late. Paul has already met Jesus on the road to Damascus, Pliny begins his investigation ordered by the worried emperor, and a legion of apocryphal writers pretends also to know plenty…Toi, apo-cryphe lecteur, mon semblable, mon frere. It all goes to Peter’s head; he takes himself seriously. John threatens to tell the truth, Peter and Paul have him chained up on the island of Patmos. Soon the poor man is seeing things: Help, there are locusts all over my bed, make those trumpets stop, where’s all this blood coming from? The others say he’s drunk, or maybe it’s arteriosclerosis…Who knows, maybe it really happened that way.”
“It did happen that way. You should read some Feuerbach, instead of those junk books of yours.”


And in "Baudolino" we learn that it is not authenticity which makes a Relic real, but the belief in its authenticity - hence there is no problem with making fake relics if they help people believe.

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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby Poodle » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:30 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Phoenix76 wrote:The tomb that, according to legend, held the body of Jesus Christ dates back almost 1,700 years, scientific tests show.
Which seems about right. Helena, Constantine the Great's mother made up most of the artefacts when she went to Jerusalem, including the "spear of destiny" and "true cross". She dies in 330AD. She is the patron saint of new discoveries.Helena.jpg

She could hardly have missed it. If you gathered together all the pieces of the True Cross which were claimed in English monasteries alone, the thing would have been between 300 and 400 feet high.

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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:04 am

"“Now that you mention it, let’s see. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are a bunch of practical jokers ............." //// Which later gave us Scientology and then Trump.
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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby Phoenix76 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:05 am

Hey Bobbo, you're sharp. Right on the mark. Trump? Well I don't know your politics like you do. But accept your prognosis.

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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:42 am

Thanks P.....I was really going to the mechanism of "movements truly believed" starting out as jokes by the founders. No one, including Trump, thought his joke/move to enhance his name was going to win. But he did, and now we have true believers.

I've never read it regarding Scientology.....but as Bill Maher says: "I just know that its true......"
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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby placid » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:37 pm

Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ.



Then we must debunk the name of every one that ever lived.

So who is actually living?
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Re: Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:13 pm

placid wrote:Debunking the Myth of Jesus Christ.



Then we must debunk the name of every one that ever lived.

So who is actually living?



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