7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

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7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby Phoenix76 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:33 am

Interesting article I came across on the following site:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessind ... content=44

Wow, that's one "Hell" of a link title.

As you would know, I'm an atheist and so do not belief in god, jesus, hell, satan and things that go bump in the night. But it is always good to read someone else's views, rather than just having a closed mind on a subject. One interesting reason to not believe in hell, is that the punishment does not fit the crime, so to say.

A murderer etc gets say 15 years, or even life, but a sinner, or should I say, a mortal sinner, gets eternity for doing something vague such as a mortal sin, as laid down by some man made church. What the hell is a mortal sin? (pun intended). I don't know, but maybe it is when we break one of the 10 commandments handed down to Moses. Another one of those wonderful fairy tales in the "Good Books"!

So that could be "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife." This one is not adultery, that's another of the 10, this one is simply looking at your neighbors wife and thinking, "Geez I would love to get her into bed". Perhaps this is another version of the "Thought Police. The line of a song comes to mind, "You can't go to gaol for what you are thinking."

Crikey, if we all went to gaol for what we were thinking, heaven, wherever that is, would be a very lonely place. Anyway, the article published by patheos.com is certainly worth the read, not too long, for anyone interested in the subject.

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Re: 7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby Gord » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:39 am

Phoenix76 wrote:So that could be "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife." This one is not adultery, that's another of the 10, this one is simply looking at your neighbors wife and thinking, "Geez I would love to get her into bed".

That's not all wives are good for. You can't look at your neighbours wife and think, "I would love to get her into the kitchen" or "I would love to get her into the classroom" or "I would love to get her onto my soccer team" either.

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Re: 7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby Phoenix76 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:51 am

Love it Gord :lol:

But all those things you mention aren't mortal sins, at least not that I know of. I've long had the belief that anything to do with sex, unless it is with your wife, in the dark, and purely for the reason of procreation, will damn you to eternal hell. Thing is though, with all these so called mortal sins, if you go to your priest and confess, and do penance, you will be absolved of your sins.

So, does that mean that if you commit a mortal sin, but die before you confess to your priest, then bad luck buddy, you are going to hell?

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Re: 7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:04 pm

Hell is over rated.
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Re: 7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby ElectricMonk » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:14 pm

The basic flaw is that for a finite action you get punished / rewarded for an infinite amount of time:

regardless of how horrific / wonderful your deeds have been, they pale to insignificance when stretched to eternity. After an infinite amount of time, there can be no difference between the worthiness of Stalin vs. the nicest person ever.
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Re: 7 Reasons to Stop Believing in Hell

Postby Phoenix76 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:04 am

Geez EM, it's just about bedtime on this side of the Earth.

And that means I've had a few beers, and whilst I can still think clearly, sort of, I got a headache reading that. Perhaps too deep this time of night.


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