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Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:08 am

And from an unimpeachable source: Fox News!

Note: The headline screams "caught on video," and the sighter is quoted as saying that "a dinosaur came out of the water." Those two claims look much better in soft focus. The video doesn't show anything but a head that looks suspiciously like it's made of rubber. Nothing else "comes out of the water." To bolster the story, Fox adds that there have been "two more sightings" since September 12, when the video was made. Well, I imagine the rubber is pretty durable and can be used more than once.
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Re: The Lake Ogopogo Monster

Post by Gord » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:25 am

Good grief.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... 5c99206584
David Halbauer, with brother Keith, took video footage of a dinosaur like animal while picnicking by the lake on September 12.
Why's it always gotta be two brothers? :gurn:

By the way, the image they keep showing of an ugly knob sticking out of the water was taken in 2015 by Bill Steciuk. You can buy t-shirts of it here: https://www.ogopogoquest.com/tshirts.php

Behold!

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Re: The Lake Ogopogo Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:21 pm

Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:25 am
Good grief.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... 5c99206584
David Halbauer, with brother Keith, took video footage of a dinosaur like animal while picnicking by the lake on September 12.
Why's it always gotta be two brothers? :gurn:

By the way, the image they keep showing of an ugly knob sticking out of the water was taken in 2015 by Bill Steciuk. You can buy t-shirts of it here: https://www.ogopogoquest.com/tshirts.php

Behold!

But, but...I saw it on FOX NEWS!! How can it be a hoax? They swore it happened on September 12, 2018.

Did you notice that the url contains the string /science/? To Fox News, this is SCIENCE, dammit! Unlike climate change caused by human action.
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Re: The Lake Ogopogo Monster

Post by Poodle » Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:48 pm

Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:25 am
... Why's it always gotta be two brothers? :gurn:
I logged in to say precisely that. Brothers should be investigated by a responsible judge.
And Ogopogo? C'mon!!!
Hang on - it's NOT Lake Ogopogo. It's Okanagan Lake. Ogopogo is the thing in it.
Okanagan? C'mon!!! (doesn't have quite the same ring to it).

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Re: The Lake Ogopogo Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:12 pm

Poodle wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:48 pm
Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:25 am
... Why's it always gotta be two brothers? :gurn:
I logged in to say precisely that. Brothers should be investigated by a responsible judge.
And Ogopogo? C'mon!!!
Hang on - it's NOT Lake Ogopogo. It's Okanagan Lake. Ogopogo is the thing in it.
Okanagan? C'mon!!! (doesn't have quite the same ring to it).
Mea culpa! I should have said Ogopogo, the lake monster. Will fix it.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Wordbird » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:52 am

Why is it not rippling the water?

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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gord » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:04 am

Because it is a ripple in the water.

...wait, to which image were you referring?
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

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Gord wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:04 am
Because it is a ripple in the water.

...wait, to which image were you referring?
The rubbery head thing poking out.

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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gord » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:14 pm

Oh, the one that looks like either a log or a turtle's head?
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by landrew » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:33 pm

Funny how there were a lot more pics back when cameras were low-res.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Poodle » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm

I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".

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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gord » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 am

Poodle wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm
I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".
Fifty feet would have been ridiculous.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:35 pm

Gord wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 am
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Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm
I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".
Fifty feet would have been ridiculous.
Size matters.

I wonder if this "monster" has recovered the cost of marketing.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by landrew » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:00 pm

The T-shirt is obviously a marketing gimmick. Whomever makes it never believed it was real either.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:08 am

Gord wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 am
Poodle wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm
I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".
Fifty feet would have been ridiculous.
I was also going to comment on that. Then I realized that these guys, being Canadian, had said "about 15 meters" and Fox News felt it had to inform its audience what that amounted to in real money.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

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Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:08 am
Gord wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 am
Poodle wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm
I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".
Fifty feet would have been ridiculous.
I was also going to comment on that. Then I realized that these guys, being Canadian, had said "about 15 meters" and Fox News felt it had to inform its audience what that amounted to in real money.
Ah, of course! I failed to take into account the much-praised Fox Accuracy.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

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Upton_O_Goode wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:08 am
Gord wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 am
Poodle wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm
I like the estimation of length - "about 49 feet".
Fifty feet would have been ridiculous.
I was also going to comment on that. Then I realized that these guys, being Canadian, had said "about 15 meters" and Fox News felt it had to inform its audience what that amounted to in real money.
"49 feet" is faux accuracy, added to make this T-shirt scam sound a bit more credible.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Poodle » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:23 pm

OKANAGAN LAKE is endangering wildlife. Apparently, people are streaming there in their thousands. The huge interest is illustrated by the responses to any article about Ogopogo which cites the lake as its home. Most responses include the statement "Wear the fox hat".

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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by landrew » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:52 pm

Local businesses wasted no time in promoting their local lake monster.
If your lake doesn't have one, run a contest.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:51 pm

landrew wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:52 pm
Local businesses wasted no time in promoting their local lake monster.
If your lake doesn't have one, run a contest.
We've already got ours here in Vermont. Trust ABC news to give the whole goddamned lake to New York. Hey {!#%@}! We Vermonters own half of the lake. And the Burlington minor-league baseball team is the Lake Monsters. And, no matter how often sober scientists point out that Loch Ness and Lake Champlain are neither one rich enough in food to support a breeding population of monstrous fish/aquatic reptiles/whatever, that never fazes the enthusiastic believers. It is useless to argue with them. It only makes them angry, like trying to take a bone away from a dog.

As a matter of fact, I just returned from a nice half-hour walk along the lakeshore, and for the 5000th time that I've taken that walk, once again, was not privileged to get a look at "Champ."
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gord » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:59 am

There are lake monsters in pretty much every large lake. It's more a function of human minds than anything to do with actual wildlife. Hell, there's a lake monster associated with Lake Winnipeg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipogo

The only thing consistant with all these monster sightings that I'm aware of is that they are all seen in lakes that have these natural features I like to call "waves".
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:08 am

Gord wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:59 am
There are lake monsters in pretty much every large lake. It's more a function of human minds than anything to do with actual wildlife. Hell, there's a lake monster associated with Lake Winnipeg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipogo

The only thing consistant with all these monster sightings that I'm aware of is that they are all seen in lakes that have these natural features I like to call "waves".
"Manipogo"? That's just lazy.
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Post by landrew » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:33 pm

It's always good comedy; an enthusiast shows a video or a picture of a lake monster, but all the average person sees is a fuzzy blob.
Since high-definition cameras became ubiquitous, where are all the good pictures?
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by landrew » Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:36 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:08 am
Gord wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:59 am
There are lake monsters in pretty much every large lake. It's more a function of human minds than anything to do with actual wildlife. Hell, there's a lake monster associated with Lake Winnipeg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipogo

The only thing consistant with all these monster sightings that I'm aware of is that they are all seen in lakes that have these natural features I like to call "waves".
"Manipogo"? That's just lazy.
Your local tourist board should have a better imagination.
What are they charging nowadays for lake monster boat tours?
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:29 pm

Gord wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:59 am
There are lake monsters in pretty much every large lake. It's more a function of human minds than anything to do with actual wildlife. Hell, there's a lake monster associated with Lake Winnipeg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipogo

The only thing consistant with all these monster sightings that I'm aware of is that they are all seen in lakes that have these natural features I like to call "waves".
Indeed, there are always waterlogged trees floating along. Lake Champlain, which I'm most familiar with, is really a very wide, slow-flowing river, with a noticeable south-to-north current. If a tree gets snagged on a shallow rock, it can disturb the surface in a way that looks very much like a large fish or reptile. Many of the sightings around here come from the ferry service that runs between Charlotte, Vermont and Essex, New York, or between Burlington, Vermont and Port Elizabeth, New York or between Grand Isle, Vermont and Plattsburgh, New York. And I always think how much fun a prankster could have waiting for the ferry to come along, then pulling on the cords that will bring "Champ" to the surface near the ferry boat. A lot of pictures will be taken by the happy passengers.

As far as I know, the largest vertebrates in Lake Champlain are the sturgeon, who are considered endangered. They are whopping big fish; I've never caught one (if you do catch it, you are legally required to release it immediately, as it is an endangered species), but I've seen the two that swim around in the tank at the Echo Museum. They look almost like legless alligators.
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Post by Upton_O_Goode » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:34 pm

landrew wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:36 pm
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:08 am
Gord wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:59 am
There are lake monsters in pretty much every large lake. It's more a function of human minds than anything to do with actual wildlife. Hell, there's a lake monster associated with Lake Winnipeg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manipogo

The only thing consistant with all these monster sightings that I'm aware of is that they are all seen in lakes that have these natural features I like to call "waves".
"Manipogo"? That's just lazy.
Your local tourist board should have a better imagination.
What are they charging nowadays for lake monster boat tours?
Well, there's certainly no shortage of eyewitness testimony, and a plentiful supply of people eager to believe said testimony.

And never let it be said that Vermonters are slow to take advantage of an opportunity to make money.
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Re: Ogopogo the Lake Monster

Post by landrew » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:38 pm

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