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Flat earth nonsense

Postby soehnk » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:02 pm

What is with this recent nonsense pandemic regarding the flat earth?? A small publishing industry not to mention a flurry of YouTube videos has spread over the globe promoting this pancake nonsense. Aristotle must be rolling in his grave. I think Skeptic mag should do a special issue on this backwardness. I thought creationism, Bigfoot and chemtrails was at the bottom of wackiness. I was wrong. Cheers. 8-)

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Austin Harper » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:46 pm

They covered it in Junior Skeptic #53 (published in Vol 19.4. The article for children explained the theory and its flaws quite simply.
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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:02 am

soehnk wrote:What is with this recent nonsense pandemic regarding the flat earth?? A small publishing industry not to mention a flurry of YouTube videos has spread over the globe promoting this pancake nonsense. Aristotle must be rolling in his grave. I think Skeptic mag should do a special issue on this backwardness. I thought creationism, Bigfoot and chemtrails was at the bottom of wackiness. I was wrong. Cheers. 8-)


Great question.

A total idiot tried to argue for the flat Earth on the International Skeptics forum. My gut feeling is that this was simply a troll using the Flat Earth meme to troll skeptics.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... p?t=319960

My gut feeling is that there are a large number of people who want to be seen as different with special insight. They haven't got the brains to come up with any new "woo" concept themselves, so they pick from historical "woo" themes. I Think that it is statistical in nature that a number of them will choose to promote Flat Earth arguments

On a more cheerful note.....idiots who promote ridiculous religious "woo" claims are not posting crazy theories about real science topics and thus, normal science can get on with business without being disturbed. :D

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:33 am

If the Earth was round, how would the elephants hold it up? I mean, it would roll right off their shoulders and hit the turtle on the head. :mrgreen:
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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby TJrandom » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:16 am

Catfish, I say... catfish! And in Scientific American no less...

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/hi ... rthshaker/

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:16 am

TJrandom wrote:Catfish, I say... catfish! And in Scientific American no less...

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/hi ... rthshaker/

I am utterly bemused. Why on Earth (no pun intended) was that article in Scientific American? And written by a geologist?! Are we expected to cater to the mythologists now?
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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby TJrandom » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:22 am

Gorgeous made em do it....

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Gord » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:20 pm

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:16 pm

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Gord » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:23 am

http://www.storyofmathematics.com/indian.html

Indian astronomers used trigonometry to calculated the relative distances between the Earth and the Moon and the Earth and the Sun. They realized that, when the Moon is half full and directly opposite the Sun, then the Sun, Moon and Earth form a right angled triangle, and were able to accurately measure the angle as 1⁄7°. Their sine tables gave a ratio for the sides of such a triangle as 400:1, indicating that the Sun is 400 times further away from the Earth than the Moon.

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby TJrandom » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:36 am

Yikes... only 400 times as far? Maybe 389 times....

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Gord » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:52 am

Well, they had to round up. With numbers that small, even getting one significant digit is an achievement.
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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Austin Harper » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:19 pm

Don't let gorgeous hear you talk about rounding.
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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:23 pm

Austin Harper wrote:Don't let gorgeous hear you talk about rounding.

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby OlegTheBatty » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:51 pm

. . . with the satisfied air of a man who thinks he has an idea of his own because he has commented on the idea of another . . . - Alexandre Dumas 'The Count of Monte Cristo"

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Re: Flat earth nonsense

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:03 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:Not triangulating for sure

Heard that on the school bus, before the British Invasion.
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