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Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:48 am

In the sense that it accurately explains humans and the mind?

A friend of mine insisted I look into spirituality after becoming an atheist, saying that the four noble truths, meditation, the eight paths, and becoming my true self will lead me into enlightenment.

Is this stuff even true?

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:42 am

Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:In the sense that it accurately explains humans and the mind? A friend of mine insisted I look into spirituality after becoming an atheist, saying that the four noble truths, meditation, the eight paths, and becoming my true self will lead me into enlightenment.

Is this stuff even true?


You need to make a factual statement before anyone can say "under the scientific method, that is probably a true statement."

"Science" can't answer subjective personal philosophy questions.


Buddhism promotes the view that a person should strive to reach "Nirvana". If no one you are talking to, can define exactly what "Nivarna" is, then there is no measurement of "getting there", that allows "science" to even be part of this question.

I suggest you try write out the "Buddhist rules" as tangible measurable things. When you realise that is impossible, you can then say to yourself "This doesn't really matter and is just religious rubbish".

Please note, this is a science forum and maybe not the type of forum you are looking for.

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:50 am

Maybe it would be helpful to remember that, as the story goes, Gautama Buddha found his "enlightenment" while in a state of (severe?) malnutrition and dehydration, all quite conducive to produce hallucinations.


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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:36 am

Yeah, that's true scrmbldggs. I just don't get how people including my friend say that it is so much like science and should become the science of mind, etc.

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:12 am

How exactly is it said to be "like science"?



(and is your friend Shaka? plz clarify 4 me :-P)
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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:18 am

Zetsubou_Sensei wrote: I just don't get how people including my friend say that it is so much like science and should become the science of mind, etc.
Next time anyone bothers you, ask them to write down all the "tangible science bits" of Buddhism and say you will discuss it, at length, next time you met. They will quickly drop the topic.

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:52 am

Who is Shaka?

My friend told me look at these sites:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_science
http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/good-news- ... res-no-you
http://www.dalailama.com/messages/buddh ... crossroads

He also goes on to say that Buddhism explains the psychology of suffering fairly well in that it describes being attached and having expectations, etc. about things, as well as having an ego which must be overcome to reach enlightenment. Although, when asking what enlightenment is, I'm met with a word salad which ends with no one knows. As well as how meditation and mindfulness is the key to ameliorating mental disorders because it allows us to look into our true selves.

http://www.mindful.org/the-science-of-mindfulness/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-12661646

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Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:14 am

Shaka is a resident "nondual" poster who went into hiding because s/he misbehaved - again. It's a pattern. And one doesn't need spirituality/religion to have an understanding of the human mind. All it takes is to be human.

(or, perhaps, being an Alien Lizard Overlord - according to gorgeous, our resident ogre :-P)


So, how many mentally disordered people has Buddhism cured and where can one find verification of it?
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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:30 am

From some research I did now, it just helps but does not fully cure anything. Whereas others say it's the spirit having the problem, etc. so we can ignore that because of the lack of evidence of a spirit. Additionally, there's a doctor named Sarah Lazar in this article that claims that it can alter your brain making you feel better and overcome mental illness more easily. A classmate at my university also advocates meditation highly because of these effects.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/mental-heal ... ove-319298

However, I am sceptical of such a claim. I have also seen research elsewhere that reading narratives also make you feel better and change your brain in ways that make you more empathetic.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... d-function

Which leads me me to think that many things change the brain if not everything.

But in regards to so-called suffering. Does following Buddhism even make you overcome it? From what I've read that counts as suffering in Buddhism, is unhappiness, pain, anger, etc. and the fact of having a sense of self or ego. What don't these things have positive effects to in regards to our evolution, and isn't what one thinks of suffering is subjective? Furthermore, what does leaving all of your desires have anything to with relieving these aspects when it is our biological structure that actuates this. Is this some sort of escapism from life? Could it be that this is more for social control rather than enlightenment, as people who practice Buddhism in tibet are oppressed?

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:39 am

Oh, and thank you scrmbldggs for welcoming me. I was drawn here after watching and reading some of Michael shermer's books and videos.

I also put this question on reddit atheism, but there were many apologists for Buddhism telling me how great Buddhism is, etc.

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby TJrandom » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:28 am

Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:Oh, and thank you scrmbldggs for welcoming me. I was drawn here after watching and reading some of Michael shermer's books and videos.

I also put this question on reddit atheism, but there were many apologists for Buddhism telling me how great Buddhism is, etc.


Buddhism is great - lots of great ceremonies, etc. Gets me out of the house on New Year’s day. Good (free) sake at the temples, cute girls all dressed up. Bon fire burning the charms sold last year - warms you up if the sake didn`t. Perfect place for an atheist. ;)

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Postby ElectricMonk » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:39 am

I have a deep skepticism towards Buddhism, especially the principle of accepting the good and the bad in equal measures.
Buddhism does not seem to foster progress for society, only peace of mind for the individual.
I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
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2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.
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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:10 am

Good and bad on equal terms is common in many religions. I, too, hold scepticism towards these notions. I'm more on the side of expressivism when it comes to morality.

What makes such black and white dichotomies of morality common though?

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:11 am

TJrandom wrote:
Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:Oh, and thank you scrmbldggs for welcoming me. I was drawn here after watching and reading some of Michael shermer's books and videos.

I also put this question on reddit atheism, but there were many apologists for Buddhism telling me how great Buddhism is, etc.


Buddhism is great - lots of great ceremonies, etc. Gets me out of the house on New Year’s day. Good (free) sake at the temples, cute girls all dressed up. Bon fire burning the charms sold last year - warms you up if the sake didn`t. Perfect place for an atheist. ;)


Yeah, for the culture, not really in the actual religious stuff it's based on.

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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby ElectricMonk » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:14 am

Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:Good and bad on equal terms is common in many religions. I, too, hold scepticism towards these notions. I'm more on the side of expressivism when it comes to morality.

What makes such black and white dichotomies of morality common though?


it's the lack of desire for change that makes me distrust Buddhism. It seems that Buddhist societies don't do innovation very well.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:31 am

Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:In the sense that it accurately explains humans and the mind?

No.
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Re: Is Buddhism true?

Postby Zetsubou_Sensei » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:40 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:In the sense that it accurately explains humans and the mind?

No.

Elegantly put.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:28 pm

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Postby Canadian Skeptic » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:33 pm

One of my friends is just finishing up his PhD in clinical psychology right now, and he's also a relatively strong proponent not necessarily of Buddhism per se, but of some Buddhist ideas (non-desire) and rituals (meditation). There are certainly some areas of psychology that are looking into these things to see if they have any positive effects, with some success, and they're being integrated into a number of behavioural psychological principles. That doesn't mean the verdict is out on these things, just that some early research has been promising.

I myself think it's more what you alluded to before, that there's nothing uniquely special about meditation or a philosophy of non-desire, but rather that there are many things that change the brain and can help our current mental states. Further, more research may eventually reveal a regression towards the mean, where prior positives turn out to be the exception to the rule.

It's also worth noting that Buddhism, first of all, has many different branches and identities within it, that run the gamut of religious, cultural and philosophical identities. Things like reaching Nirvana, or the Boddhisatvas of some traditions sent back to Earth to teach humans, or whatever, are not scientific nor are they discussed by science, any more than science seeks to identify whether Saint Peter does, in fact, reside in front of large heavenly gates.

Last, like all strong identities, even Buddhists will at times resort to violence, and so there's really no good evidence to suggest that identifying as a Buddhist will have any greater benefit than identifying with anything else -- just look to Myanmar, where Buddhists slaughter innocents in the street.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:45 pm

As a pragmatic existential anti-theist, I would say that "all" theologies/world views/philosophies/ideologies/social theories are worth a look as time and realities of life permit. After a few years, unless you want to become "an adherent" it all becomes somewhat of a swirl. My take away which is very existentialist is: life is what you make it. If you make it Buddhist, then Buddhism will have lots of answers. As you modify that general approach, so will the answers.

Life is like that.

A journey.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:32 pm

Meditation - Buddhism doesn't have a monopoly on that. And I think in olden times it was simply called reflection and practiced quite commonly.

In these modern times, fast-paced and with its hundreds of television channels (and other absorbing activities), one has to make space for some quiet time and, perhaps, give it a fancy name to justify doing so. (Ya know, similar to buying that splendid riding lawn mower for your front lawn the size of a beach towel, and also an expensive membership at the gym with Yoga.)

I lump Buddhist spiritual practice in with all others and see some of it as guidelines for people to succeed at survival with each other. Just like the Golden Rule and other sensible suggestions.
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Postby Gord » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:30 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Me terse.

Succinct! That was the word I was trying to think of a year ago!

As for the science in Buddhism, whenever someone claims their religion is "scientific", I assume they don't know the meaning of the word. However, not being scientific does not mean something can't have truth and/or value.

I think Buddhism, like all religions (and many philosophies), bases itself upon falsehoods. If it then goes on to promote many things that are true, good, and healthful, that doesn't excuse the false premises from skepticism. But we can still credit it for the good things.

My doctor has suggested I look into meditation. I tried it when I was younger, but all I ever really did was muse, get bored, and fall asleep...so I assume I never learned how to do it correctly. :heh:
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Suc what?
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Zetsubou_Sensei wrote:Whereas others say it's the spirit having the problem,
My father was a psychiatrist and he would say that there is a scientific basis for following Buddhism, in that it statistically makes people feel happier, as a well thought out placebo. I think that covers the part concerning "the spirit" :)

I'm a ruthless scientific skeptic. My partner and I are trying to have a baby on IVF. IVF Australia, our consultants, recommended my partner see a Chinese traditional medicine specialist. The head doctor took me aside and stated the same thing as my father did. "Statistically, it marginally improves fertility rates as a placebo. Don't break the magic by telling you partner you think it is nonsense". I followed those instructions as "good critical thinking".

"Science" is good, if you want a scientific result. If you want a subjective fuzzy result, that works for you, with no clear measurement, then you should use any tool, science, philosophy or psychology, that helps you reach you goal. You are not a greater or lesser person for using the right tools for different sorts of personal goals.

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Suc what?

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Matthew Ellard wrote:I'm a ruthless scientific skeptic. My partner and I are trying to have a baby on IVF. IVF Australia, our consultants, recommended my partner see a Chinese traditional medicine specialist. The head doctor took me aside and stated the same thing as my father did. "Statistically, it marginally improves fertility rates as a placebo. Don't break the magic by telling you partner you think it is nonsense". I followed those instructions as "good critical thinking".

Wow. I had no idea the placebo effect worked on fertility rates. That's amazing!
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:56 am

Gord wrote: Wow. I had no idea the placebo effect worked on fertility rates. That's amazing!
At Genea IVF (Aust), they had "westernised" Chinese medicine, with beautiful wood-panelling, miniature waterfalls, piped soft music and Chinese medical practitioners in matching uniforms. The medicine was offered in capsule form.

At IVF (Aust) they send you to a 1960's Hong Kong shop, shipped over in its entirety to Sydney, including the bossy Chinese woman who yells at everyone in Cantonese. It has the floor to ceiling wooden Chinese medicine drawers and endless bottles of "dried up things". Her husband will walk through the main room carrying dead chickens.

I felt immediately at home, as I grew up in Sth East Asia, handled by various "Amars" (Older Chinese bossy grand mothers who look after military Western children.) I'm used to shopping for groceries in Honk Kong, Malaysia, Thailand and so on, holding hands with a bossy Chinese "mother" at open air markets.

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Suc what?


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[quote="Matthew Ellard"]I'm a ruthless scientific skeptic. My partner and I are trying to have a baby on IVF. [quote]

What does ruthless add to being scientific add to being a skeptic? Given THAT emphasis, why the interest in having a baby? Ruthless vs Unthinking emotions???

I have never wanted kiddies..... and its cost me a few gf's and even a wifey. I see the attractions and the detractions, and for me they net out at submitting to the unthinking emotional demands of my partner. Personally, just about any other hobby is superior to raising kiddies.

Have you actual positive reasons?..... or going with the flow?
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:46 pm

Ellard,...pleaaassseee don't breed more like you.....thanks...............meditation could transform the world...if most people meditated they wouldn't be violent, as hostile...it has helped many with traumas, abusive pasts, addictions...and did anyone know that the esoteric teaching is that Gautama Buddha is currently on Mars in a non-physical body to calm the energy of the war planet Mars?...and that at a secret center near the Black Sea Buddha taught there in his spirit body to chosen students centuries ago...one later incarnated and became St. Francis of Assisi...which is why his teachings resemble the Buddha's teachings...
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:00 pm

G: let me fix that for ya:

gorgeous wrote:Ellard,...pleaaassseee don't breed more like you.....thanks...............meditation could transform the world...if most people meditated they wouldn't be violent, as hostile...it has helped many with traumas, abusive pasts, addictions...and did anyone know that the esoteric teaching is that Gautama Buddha is currently on Mars in a non-physical body to calm the energy of the war planet Mars?...and that at a secret center near the Black Sea Buddha taught there in his spirit body to chosen students centuries ago...one later incarnated and became St. Francis of Assisi...which is why his teachings resemble the Buddha's teachings...


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Postby gorgeous » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:01 pm

afraid much?
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Don't worry, he's just a crisis actor.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:13 pm

gorgeous wrote:afraid much?

Since I have no idea at all what you are referring to, I suppose not?

Most pragmatic existentialists are not afraid. We accept the big empty, as we have no choice.
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Postby gorgeous » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:21 pm

you had to mark out my post....it must have threatened your belief system...
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:32 pm

gorgeous wrote:you had to mark out my post....it must have threatened your belief system...

Ha, ha. Yes.... my big empty is threatened by dead hoomans currently mandating peace in the void of Mars through their non-physical bodies.

No.....what caught my attention is how unpleasant you were being towards Ellard. To compare: I like kiddies as long as I don't have to take care of them, so I would be a bad parent, so have chosen not to have kiddies. but I am jealous of those who do find pleasure in such things and only hope they manage their totalities to be good parents.......as all parents should be.
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Ellard knows the reason why...
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Re: Is Buddhism true?

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Kinda hilarious. That the vile creep is here for the attention - and then complains if the inane babbling elicits rational response. :roll:



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