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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:08 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Well, the Brits never don't have a cuppa tea in their hand, unless it's a pint of ale.

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Lance Kennedy » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:20 pm

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Sure. I understand how you extract caffeine from tea. As I said, the dried leaf has as much as dried coffee has. But you do not drink tea leaves. (Well, not mostly). The part you drink, which is hot water containing EXTRACT from tea leaves has relatively little caffeine.

Not that it matters too much. Caffeine in small amounts is not highly toxic. If you drink lots of caffeine rich 'energy drinks' or very strong coffee, it can be in sufficient dose to be harmful. Any cold drink that lists guarana in its ingredients is likely to have too much caffeine. But not in normal tea or normal coffee.

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:28 pm

Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:37 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

Ever drank the coffee the USN serves on the mess decks?
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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:40 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

Ever drank the coffee the USN serves on the mess decks?

Can't say I have, but it sounds messy.

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:43 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

Ever drank the coffee the USN serves on the mess decks?

Can't say I have, but it sounds messy.

When you're going on a six hour watch you cut off a piece and chew it for the duration of the watch. Then you go up to the mess decks and spit it out into the coffee pot. DO NOT spit it overboard, it's been known to make it to land and attack people on the beaches.
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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby TJrandom » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:47 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Well, the Brits never don't have a cuppa tea in their hand, unless it's a pint of ale.


... which tastes like tea.... :evil:

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:58 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

Ever drank the coffee the USN serves on the mess decks?

Can't say I have, but it sounds messy.

When you're going on a six hour watch you cut off a piece and chew it for the duration of the watch. Then you go up to the mess decks and spit it out into the coffee pot. DO NOT spit it overboard, it's been known to make it to land and attack people on the beaches.

:lol: That sounds like my kinda cuppa Joe. Looks like I missed out big time!

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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:59 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Dried or not, who in their right mind would have guano in thei.... nvrmd... there's the chivetists. :-P

Ever drank the coffee the USN serves on the mess decks?

Can't say I have, but it sounds messy.

When you're going on a six hour watch you cut off a piece and chew it for the duration of the watch. Then you go up to the mess decks and spit it out into the coffee pot. DO NOT spit it overboard, it's been known to make it to land and attack people on the beaches.

:lol: That sounds like my kinda cuppa Joe. Looks like I missed out big time!

Easy to make at home. You get some surly mess cook who doesn't want to be there, wake him up way too early, tell him to make the coffee without telling him how, and give him two gallons of water and five pounds of grounds.
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Re: The Economy of Heating Water

Postby Gord » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:01 am

Major Malfunction wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Actually, MM, that is incorrect. Dried tea has as much caffeine as dried coffee, which is why that myth occurs. But when you make a cup to drink, the amount of caffeine per 100 mls of liquid tea is about 20% of the amount per 100 mls of liquid coffee. Drinking tea involves ingestion of far less caffeine.

Citations needed.

I'll give it a shot, but it won't back up Lance's claim: http://www.teaclass.com/lesson_0112.html

The biggest myth about the caffeine content between coffee and tea is that tea contains more caffeine than coffee. While this is true when measuring coffee and tea in their dry forms, this is false when comparing brewed coffee and tea. After all, one normally uses 2 grams of tea per 8 ounce cup, and 10 grams of coffee for the same quantity of water. A widely cited 2004 British study looked at 200 cups prepared by consumers going about their normal brewing routines. It found that the average caffeine level in the cups of tea (black English style teas) was 40mg vs 105mg in the average cup of drip coffee.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_ef ... d_caffeine

...Dry tea has more caffeine by weight than dry coffee; nevertheless, more dry coffee than dry tea is used in typical drink preparations, which results in a cup of brewed tea containing significantly less caffeine than a cup of coffee of the same size....


http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifes ... t-20049372

Coffee, brewed (8 oz. [237 mL]): 95-200 mg caffeine
Black tea (8 oz. [237 mL]): 14-70 mg caffeine

So, dry tea typically has more caffeine than dry coffee, and brewed tea typically has something like 40% as much caffeine as coffee (although based on the scant data I've posted, the range could be from 7.5% to 74%).

Also note that it depends on the type of tea and coffee, and how it's brewed.
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