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Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby KevinLevites » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:22 pm

Hundreds of thousands are marching for gun reform.

Do you think it will gain momentum, or slowly die out?

Do you think it will accomplish real change, or just a few token gestures to shut people up?

What are your thoughts?

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:28 pm

Congress creeps have been bought off. The ground swell might get the House to go Demonrat but the Senate will remain bought as the NRA will literally dump cash on them.

Once a corrupt and debased idea becomes established as a "right"....its hard to change. I would have thought a few years ago that focusing and bashing on the mentally ill as the justification for background checks would have been passed. such is the power of $$$$$ and them that have it.
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:36 pm

KevinLevites wrote:Hundreds of thousands are marching for gun reform.

Do you think it will gain momentum, or slowly die out?

Do you think it will accomplish real change, or just a few token gestures to shut people up?

What are your thoughts?

We can only hope that the NRA lashes back at them.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:58 pm

Coincidence: a two minute video asking what would conservative kiddies DO to prevent gun violence? Mostly: its do nothing other than add more guns to the equation or not answering the question at all, although the mental health check that FAILED was mentioned. Thing is: when you have no response, you accept the status quo meaning that 15K murder by guns per years in USA which is 10 to 20 times the rate compared to other "civilized" societies, what you are actually emoting is that said number of deaths and conflict is "worth" the so called right. It is about "gun culture" that having too many guns and too many people with guns is both a cause and an artifact of. Guns/violence in our culture. we know the roots in our history but I thought "Gun Culture" when some commentator said that the critic that called Maxine Waters nuts for authoring a Trump impeachment had better not walk into a dark alley if Ms Waters was in the alley. Who are we kidding??? Old woman vs anyone else?? Comment not related to guns but to using/evaluating issues based on violence...and what is more violent than a gun? Two minutes:

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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Aztexan » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:56 am

My stepdaughter is there in DC. While I don't think this protest will change much in regards to the gun debate, lots of these kids will be eligible to vote this year so hopefully the demographics of our elected representatives will change.
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Postby ElectricMonk » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:02 am

I concur that this rally will stay in the hearts of the participants. And like past rallies, it marks a watershed, a a signal that when change comes it will be radical and irrevocable.
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Gord » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:18 am

It's just the usual cycle. Backlash begets backlash. Things will turn right-wing for a while, then left-wing for a while, and in between there will be moments of rest and ennui, and moments of turmoil and anguish.
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Gord wrote:It's just the usual cycle. Backlash begets backlash. Things will turn right-wing for a while, then left-wing for a while, and in between there will be moments of rest and ennui, and moments of turmoil and anguish.

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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby gorgeous » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:40 pm

it's liberal groups who wrote the speeches and organized kids....don't be fooled...just puttiing on another show to disarm citizens so they have no defense against the govt...
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Poodle » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:46 pm

Nice to see that you admit a need for US citizens to defend themselves against this particular government.

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Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:26 pm

...and a lack of knowledge that the majority of citizens - and gun owners - would like to see stricter and saner gun regulation. (btw, georgies truck nuts are camomile teabags.)
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Postby gorgeous » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:43 pm

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Any government that would have you in it, at minimum.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:23 pm

Only the most insane of the gun nutters think guns protect against SWAT Teams, tanks, Gatling guns, airplanes, squads of drafted trained to kill mercenaries, aka: the gubment. Last clear example of this was the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans. "Martial Law" was declared and just the local cops took all the weapons and shot some weapon holders on sight.

guns. Managing to get their owners dead at a faster rate than non gun owners. A certain poetic justice, but at the harm of too many innocents.

IOW: you combat the government IN THE VOTING BOX. The entire USA Guns fixation is moronic. The gubment that allows this nonsense is what needs to be DEFEATED.......at the ballot box.

VOTE THE GUN NUTTERS AND THEIR PAID SHILLS OUT OF OFFICE.
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:54 pm

You all need to watch about eight hours of NRA TV.
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Postby Aztexan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:47 am

NRA TV!?! I thought you said IRA TV. I've been watching it all day and now I have a sudden urge to blow up Great Britain
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:11 pm

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Postby Poodle » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:17 pm

How much did you donate, gorgeous?

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Postby gorgeous » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:40 pm

fox-----Pennsylvania school district arms teachers with baseball bats: report
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Aztexan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:41 am

How {!#%@} stupid are we now as a country?!?
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Aztexan wrote:How {!#%@} stupid are we now as a country?!?

About the same as always. We just have the Internet and the 24/7 news cycle to amplify things now.
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Postby JO 753 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:04 pm

The GoPs will do wut theyve alwayz dun. They will ignore the protesterz until they go away.

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Postby Aztexan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:40 pm

Buckets of rocks in one school and baseball bats in another to fend off guys with semiautomatic rifles?!? Let's have cops and SWAT team members try it first to teach us how it's done.
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Postby Angel » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:37 pm

You can remove all guns from the world
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Postby Bobbie the Pragmatist » Mon May 21, 2018 4:34 pm

Aztexan wrote:... fend off guys with semiautomatic rifles?!?


Just recently in Texas the shootings were done with a shotgun and a revolver. The weapons can vary.

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Postby Aztexan » Wed May 23, 2018 7:06 pm

Who the {!#%@} are you?
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Postby scrmbldggs » Wed May 23, 2018 7:27 pm

:laff: What little devil spawned that?
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Postby Aztexan » Thu May 24, 2018 2:11 am

Seriously. What'd I miss? We have bobbo the pragmatist and Bobbie the pragmatist?
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Postby gorgeous » Fri May 25, 2018 12:08 pm

fox-----Man opens fire in restaurant before ‘armed citizen’ shoots, kills him: cops
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fox-------A science teacher reportedly sprung into action during a shooting at an Indiana middle school on Friday, knocking a weapon from the suspect’s hand.


Seventh-grade student Ethan Stonebraker told The Associated Press that his science teacher at Noblesville West Middle School charged at the suspect, who he said revealed his weapon while the class was in the middle of a test.

"Our science teacher immediately ran at him, swatted a gun out of his hand and tackled him to the ground," Stonebraker said. "If it weren't for him, more of us would have been injured for sure."


Two people – a teacher and a student - were hurt after a male suspect excused himself from class Friday morning before returning with two handguns, authorities said. A call about an active shooter came in around 9 a.m. and the student was later detained, according to Noblesville Police Chief Kevin Jowitt.------------------------that teacher was shot 3 times...
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 25, 2018 11:14 pm

So, a good guy without a gun, yet again.
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Postby Aztexan » Sat May 26, 2018 12:41 am

Sounds like a false flag operation to me. This was staged by the NRA to try to show that it can be done. Just charge at the shooter. Yeah, that'll stop him. No deaths. Sure. This was planned.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat May 26, 2018 1:13 am

gorgeous wrote:fox-----Man opens fire in restaurant before ‘armed citizen’ shoots, kills him: cops

Where's the link?
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Postby gorgeous » Sat May 26, 2018 12:32 pm

Man opens fire inside Oklahoma restaurant before 'armed ... - Fox News



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Postby Aztexan » Sat May 26, 2018 3:20 pm

:roll:
Another staged operation with actors. This time one was sacrificed.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 26, 2018 3:46 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/25/po ... unman.html

Gunner was legal. Whatever that means these days.
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Postby Gord » Sun May 27, 2018 1:00 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/25/police-2-shot-at-oklahoma-restaurant-civilian-kills-gunman.html

Gunner was legal. Whatever that means these days.

It means this:

...On a Facebook page that police said belonged to Tilghman, the man posts a video in which he claims his television is possessed by the devil. The page uses the same profile photo as a YouTube channel where a man that appears to be Tilghman also describes demons possessing his TV and being surrounded by computers.

He calmly begs for help from "a real human," saying he's suicidal, lonely and "really losing it."...

Yeah but he was white, right? So gun ownership = yes!

...Mathews, the police spokesman, praised the two citizens who retrieved firearms from their vehicles and shot Tilghman outside the restaurant....

...Mathews said it's unlikely either of the men, Juan Carlos Nazario and Bryan Whittle, will face criminal charges....

Now, I don't know if they should face criminal charges, but I doubt either of them were trained in ways to defuse such a situation without firing their weapons. I'm not saying what they did was wrong, but I doubt that it was "right".
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Re: Have you been watching the gun protests?

Postby Aztexan » Sun May 27, 2018 6:04 pm

Armed civilians don't think of a situation where they start a dialogue with the shooter before using logic and reasoning to disarm him. They fantasize about blasting his ass.
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