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Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:18 pm
by Tom Palven
You make good points, bobbo, but at least I think you'll agree that she is very articulate and describes events and facts in a fast, seemingly unrehearsed manner that is very believable, and organized internet trolling may be factual.

That said, the fact that she hedges on abortion and some foreign policy point that I don't remember makes it seem that she has been bitten by the political bug and might not want to say anything that would interfere with her selection as a Republican candidate for VP or other high office.

On the other hand, I agree completely with everything that Dave Rubin had to say. YMMV.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:06 am
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Thanks TP: yes, she is quite articulate, animated, engaging, positivie and so forth....but the "subject" was why she went from left to right, a story that correctly told would be an invitation for all of us to do the same? But it wasn't instructive and so failed in what it purportedly set itself to do. In my book: not refreshing.

Organized internet trolling: I thought that was a given? I see ads for companies selling the service. Outing trolls all a part of that playground/market place.

I didn't get to the hedging on abortion: always interesting to see a woman do that.....usually hypocritical: no abortion for you as long as I can anonymously visit my private clinic...........

she didn't look old enough for VP? Four years out of college so...25 years old? But gnawing on "the liberal media" and Hillary is a pure political play to sell a book, a speaking circuit, or future political office.....or Faux Spews to age into such set pieces.

I got as far as starting to think that Rubin was just trying to put on a show to appeal to his target audience.....so, my complaint there is probably what he chose not to say rather than what he did say....but I'd have to watch it first.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:13 pm
by JO 753
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Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:54 am
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
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I'd send it.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:40 am
by JO 753
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Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:14 am
by Tom Palven
Glenn Greenwald, still poking sticks into the deep state ant hill:
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/the ... -election/

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:15 pm
by Tom Palven
I still don't think that Trump colluded with the Russians, Jo, and I'd been grasping at the possibility that Trump was a peacenik in wolves' clothing who might change the direction of US foreign policy, and who appointed guys like Bolton and Pompeo to office in order to keep his enemies close, which may have made me seem like a Trump supporter or apologist.

But now I 've given up on that hope, and it makes no difference to me whether he has voluntarily embraced the Brennan-Clapper-Netanyahu deep state neoconservative fascist agenda or has been coerced into accepting it, or whether he colluded with Russians.

Just wanted you to know that I'm over it and am adding more hard liquor to my beer regimen.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:05 pm
by JO 753
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Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:12 pm
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Tom Palven wrote:I still don't think that Trump colluded with the Russians, Jo, and I'd been grasping at the possibility that Trump was a peacenik in wolves' clothing who might change the direction of US foreign policy, and who appointed guys like Bolton and Pompeo to office in order to keep his enemies close, which may have made me seem like a Trump supporter or apologist.

But now I 've given up on that hope, and it makes no difference to me whether he has voluntarily embraced the Brennan-Clapper-Netanyahu deep state neoconservative fascist agenda or has been coerced into accepting it, or whether he colluded with Russians.

Just wanted you to know that I'm over it and am adding more hard liquor to my beer regimen.

Yeah.....I agree with Joe: what you are doing is using ONE very narrow example of collusion (eg: I agree Trump never met with Putin and agreed to fix the election with his help) as not being true or likely and avoiding all the other varieties of collusion that are already VERY apparent? eg: Trump, meaning him or his related companies, are in debt to Russian Oligarchs or their also rans, and he wants to stay in good graces with them for future business deals: like Kuchner getting $$$$ in loans to keep his erroneous purchase of 666 going down the drain.

And that doesn't even include THE OBVIOUS COLLUSION of everyone around Trump meeting with the Russians to get dirt on Hillary and Trump himself drafting a memo to say it was all about adopting Russian kiddes: "But I never coluded."

Fer Christ Sake: Just Look.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 11:14 pm
by Tom Palven
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Tom Palven wrote:I still don't think that Trump colluded with the Russians, Jo, and I'd been grasping at the possibility that Trump was a peacenik in wolves' clothing who might change the direction of US foreign policy, and who appointed guys like Bolton and Pompeo to office in order to keep his enemies close, which may have made me seem like a Trump supporter or apologist.

But now I 've given up on that hope, and it makes no difference to me whether he has voluntarily embraced the Brennan-Clapper-Netanyahu deep state neoconservative fascist agenda or has been coerced into accepting it, or whether he colluded with Russians.

Just wanted you to know that I'm over it and am adding more hard liquor to my beer regimen.

Yeah.....I agree with Joe: what you are doing is using ONE very narrow example of collusion (eg: I agree Trump never met with Putin and agreed to fix the election with his help) as not being true or likely and avoiding all the other varieties of collusion that are already VERY apparent? eg: Trump, meaning him or his related companies, are in debt to Russian Oligarchs or their also rans, and he wants to stay in good graces with them for future business deals: like Kuchner getting $$$$ in loans to keep his erroneous purchase of 666 going down the drain.

And that doesn't even include THE OBVIOUS COLLUSION of everyone around Trump meeting with the Russians to get dirt on Hillary and Trump himself drafting a memo to say it was all about adopting Russian kiddes: "But I never coluded."

Fer Christ Sake: Just Look.


Aside from Trump colluding with Putin to fix the election, which you seem to agree is very doubtful, the rest of the stuff you cite is politics as usual and what lobbying is all about- oil deals, deals to sell weaponry to Saudi Arabia and Israel, etc., etc., etc.

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 7:45 am
by Matthew Ellard
Tom Palven wrote:I still don't think that Trump colluded with the Russians, Jo, and I'd been grasping at the possibility that Trump was a peacenik in wolves' clothing who might change the direction of US foreign policy, and who appointed guys like Bolton and Pompeo to office in order to keep his enemies close, which may have made me seem like a Trump supporter or apologist.


Nope. You are simply a Trump fan, posting Russian talk points and copying Sean Hannity's "Deep State" claims here as you are an uber conservative Trump lover.

Tom Palven wrote:...the deep state controls the world...
Hannity deep state.jpg


You really should just link direct to Fox & friends directly and save time. :lol:

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:45 pm
by scrmbldggs

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:06 pm
by scrmbldggs
...and more by the poor victim of unfair scrutiny and disclosures...

Re: Rachel Maddow to the rescue!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:17 pm
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Tom Palven wrote: Aside from Trump colluding with Putin to fix the election, which you seem to agree is very doubtful, the rest of the stuff you cite is politics as usual and what lobbying is all about- oil deals, deals to sell weaponry to Saudi Arabia and Israel, etc., etc., etc.

Just recognize you have given away your entire position. Yes....its politics as usual but of the illegal kind. Its illegal to do politics as usual with FOREIGNERS regarding political campaigns.

You see the key point??????

Legal vs Illegal??????

........................................... good boy.