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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Gord » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:07 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:How can you say that Shakespeare was more important than bacon?

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:38 pm

the lawyer could have been in on it...
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:04 pm

Making {!#%@} up doesn't count as evidence.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:26 pm

Shakespeare was likely Bacon
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Poodle » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:45 pm

gorgeous wrote:Shakespeare was likely Bacon


Isaac Asimov did away with this one in 1971. Do keep up, gorgeous.

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:47 pm

he also thought our moon was fake and put there...sooo...
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Poodle » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:32 pm

gorgeous wrote:he also thought our moon was fake and put there...sooo...


Here's the Asimov quotation you so misinterpreted ...

"We cannot help but come to the conclusion that the Moon by rights ought not to be there. The fact that it is, is one of the strokes of luck almost too good to accept… Small planets, such as Earth, with weak gravitational fields, might well lack satellites… … In general then, when a planet does have satellites, those satellites are much smaller than the planet itself. Therefore, even if the Earth has a satellite, there would be every reason to suspect… that at best it would be a tiny world, perhaps 30 miles in diameter. But that is not so. Earth not only has a satellite, but it is a giant satellite, 2160 miles in diameter. How is it then, that tiny Earth has one? Amazing."

He was actually commenting upon what he considered a very 'lucky' situation - that a moon so large in comparison with the planet it orbits acts as a sweeper-up of all manner of debris. He even went so far as to suggest that the Earth/Moon system could be looked upon as a binary planet system. However, he never approached the lunatic fringe you've espoused and he never, ever said that he thought the moon had been 'put there'.

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:51 pm

gorgeous wrote:the lawyer could have been in on it...
What exactly would Shakespeare's lawyer and the seven eyewitnesses from Shakespeare's family, "be in on"? :lol:

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:55 pm

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gorgeous wrote:the lawyer could have been in on it...
What exactly would Shakespeare's lawyer and the seven eyewitnesses from Shakespeare's family, "be in on"? :lol:

They would be "in on" a moribund thread that got necro'd.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:55 pm

gorgeous wrote:Shakespeare was likely Bacon
You are amazingly stupid.

How did Shakespeare acquire money to buy his houses and property if Bacon wrote all Shakespeare's works?

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:07 am

Shakespeare was illiterate and poor
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:08 am

wiki------Shakespeare's father, John Shakespeare, was a glover and town official. He married Mary Arden, one of the Ardens of Warwickshire, a family of the local gentry. Both signed their names with a mark, and no other examples of their writing are extant.[36] This is often used as an indication that Shakespeare was brought up in an illiterate household. There is also no evidence that Shakespeare's two daughters were literate, save for two signatures by Susanna that appear to be "drawn" instead of written with a practised hand. His other daughter, Judith, signed a legal document with a mark.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:20 am

Pallas Athena, the Spear Shaker and Francis Bacon - Red Ice



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Pallas Athena, the Spear Shaker and Francis Bacon ... She was thus known as "the Spear Shaker" or the "Shaker of the Spear." ... (Sir Francis Bacon, p.54). ----- Pallas Athena-----She was depicted in Greek Art with a Helmet on her head. She held the Spear of Knowledge in her right hand, poised to strike at the Serpent of Ignorance writhing under her foot. The large Helmet denoted that she waged invisibly a silent war against Sloth and Ignorance. She was usually placed on the Greek Temples with a Golden Spear in her hand. When the morning rays of the sun glinted on the weapon, causing it apparently to tremble, the common people were in the habit of saying smilingly : "Athena is Shaking her Spear again." She was thus known as "the Spear Shaker" or the "Shaker of the Spear."

This was the Goddess to whom Francis Bacon plighted his troth when a youth.
----------------The members of this Secret Literary Society which centered in Pallas Athena were known as The Knights of the Helmet. They had a ritual created by Francis Bacon and were initiated with an elaborate ceremonial. There was a vow, recitatives, perambulations. The Initiate was capped with the Helmet of Pallas to denote he was henceforth an "Invisible" in the fight for Human Advancement. A large Spear was placed in his hand indicative of a pen for he was to Shake the Spear of Knowledge at the Dragons of Ignorance. He thus became a "Spear-Shaker", and the head of the little band of "Spear-Shakers" was "Shake-Speare" himself, Athena's visible representative on earth.......Francis Bacon.

This little group of law students with a few outsiders like Gabriel Harvey, a Cambridge Professor, the one-time tutor of Francis in Prosody became the brains of the secret movements in the Elizabethan Era which led to the English Renaissance. The prime Fraternity became known ultimately as the Rosicrosse.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:32 am

gorgeous wrote:Shakespeare was illiterate and poor
You're an idiot Gorgeous. Shakespeare signed documents in his full name. He left two houses to his family. :lol:

What makes you an absolute moron is that all stage actors could read as they worked to scripts. They could all read.

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Poodle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:59 am

There are contemporary references abounding (a Google search comes up with them in about a second) to William Shakespeare as an actor and a writer (in fact, THE writer of the plays attributed, oddly enough, to William Shakespeare) and an acknowledged gentleman of Stratford. His father, far from being poverty-stricken, was also mentioned as a reasonably well-to-do personage.

But let's completely ignore all that and make {!#%@} up instead.

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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:10 am

they don't know any better...
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:13 am

gorgeous wrote:they don't know any better...
Who is "they" Gorgeous?

Be a good fellow and be specific.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:13 am

gorgeous wrote:they don't know any better...
Who is "they" Gorgeous?

Be a good fellow and be specific.
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Re: Shakespeare never existed

Postby Nobrot » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:02 am

gorgeous wrote:Shakespeare was likely Bacon


No, you're likely thinking of Ann Hathaway.

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