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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:42 am

For some reason huge underground military bases keep being on my mind, especially after I played fallout 4, a dystopian future where the surface of Earth is basically a nuclear fallout area with contaminated water, rebel groups and mutants, and the only places that survived in a reasonble way were huge underground bases run by the 'institute', who had advanced technology that was classified (they can deal with nuclear issues very well due to advanced tech and science)

So enter Phil Scheider ...

He seems to be one of the few military clearance level people that spoke up about the extent of the underground military bases. Combined with this he was a UFOologist and spoke about aliens and things too. He died under what a lot of people consider suspicous circumstances, having continually said if he dies it was not suicide.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Phil+ ... zda_3on5gJ

He doesn't have a wikipedia page. I'm mainly starting this thread as a future reference point. As it's been years since I actually listened to some of his talks on the issue, but will do again soon. Will try to sort out some of the rubbish and do some cross refercing of his claims in the not too distant future.

However reliable he is is in a way irrelivant, I am mainly just interested in the extent scope and goal of these underground military based bases. Will be looking into it all this week. Stocks in elevator firms keep inexplicedly going up and up.

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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:32 am

zeuzzz wrote:So enter Phil Scheider ...He seems to be one of the few military clearance level people that spoke up about the extent of the underground military bases.

Phil Scheider was never in the military and never had any clearance.

He claimed the US government had built 129 deep underground facilities and that he personally worked on 13 of them. Two of these bases were for dealing with aliens.

He also said 9/11 was nuclear weapons, that Earth entered into a treaty with grey aliens in 1954 and AIDS is a government created virus.

He was simply a man trying take make money off naive UFO fans.


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There are indeed underground military bases. The Germans were building these during the war due to the continual allied bombing. Some were for production of weapons. Some were communications hubs.

NORAD maintains the underground shelter for the US government. The Russians have shelters but most are now used for national food reserve storage.

Underground military bunkers are not that useful any more, due to nuclear weapons and conventional "bunker busters" and additionally due to satellite's picking up on heat (air exchange) and personnel movement.

I have been to Zossen and have a lot of books on this topic.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Poodle » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:39 am

Stop playing Fallout 4. It's bad for you. It gives people odd ideas.

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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:08 am

Poodle wrote:Stop playing Fallout 4. It's bad for you. It gives people odd ideas.


It's a great game. One of the few games I've gotten very into.

Also I'm fairly sure it's actually an intelligence test created by intelligence agencies, those people who side with the rebels or the army at the end and don''t see the benefits the institutes technology and science knowledge brings to the wasteland are selected are marked as future targets for drone strikes when the militaries plan for a fake UFO invasion reaches fruition around 2027. My game crashed as soon as I sided with the Brotherhood of steel as they had gathered all the intelligence on me they wanted. I'm {!#%@}.

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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:12 am

The way I think about underground bases not based on Phils ideas is thus: It's obvious that for national security about the potential for a nuclear war such underground bases would be maintained by the military, even if not for politicians and leaders to have a safe space but merely as a war strategy. Such things would not be pulbic but funded by the black budget, which approaches half a trillion dollars a year. The day before 9/11 Rumsfeld said there was something stupid like 13 trillion unaccounted for, as obviously black budget projects can not be disclosed. That of course was lost in the upcoming chaos of 9/11. Other estimates vary.
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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:39 am

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zeuzzz wrote:So enter Phil Scheider ...He seems to be one of the few military clearance level people that spoke up about the extent of the underground military bases.

Phil Scheider was never in the military and never had any clearance.

He claimed the US government had built 129 deep underground facilities and that he personally worked on 13 of them. Two of these bases were for dealing with aliens.

He also said 9/11 was nuclear weapons, that Earth entered into a treaty with grey aliens in 1954 and AIDS is a government created virus.

He was simply a man trying take make money off naive UFO fans.


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There are indeed underground military bases. The Germans were building these during the war due to the continual allied bombing. Some were for production of weapons. Some were communications hubs.

NORAD maintains the underground shelter for the US government. The Russians have shelters but most are now used for national food reserve storage.

Underground military bunkers are not that useful any more, due to nuclear weapons and conventional "bunker busters" and additionally due to satellite's picking up on heat (air exchange) and personnel movement.

I have been to Zossen and have a lot of books on this topic.
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That's exactly what the military would say :shock:

Did you work to create Fallout 4 by any chance Matt? :lol:
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:17 pm

zeuzzz wrote:Such things would not be pulbic but funded by the black budget, which approaches half a trillion dollars a year.
Well I don't think that is true. Generally the gross amount of Federal unallocated funds are clearly stated in a government budget. It's the specific allocation that is held secret, otherwise the government's own bonds would become volatile as the national accounts would not make sense to foreign bond holders. I think you mean sub budgets of actual US departments or services.

Secondly, the gross tax revenue for the IRS in 2013 was 1.09 trillion. It is simply silly to claim that there is another half trillion raised in taxes "off the books" in the same year.

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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:38 pm

zeuzzz wrote:That's exactly what the military would say :shock:
The government hasn't said anything. It is Paul Schnieder who lied about being in the military and working on underground bunkers for meetings with aliens and conspiracies concerning population control & AIDS. He could never say where these bunkers were.

My previous point was that real bunkers serve little purpose, once modern weapons could penetrate them. They are not mobile. They are not near any front. They cost a fortune in man hours. They are isolated. They are observable from satellites. They have no modern purpose.

The USA spent billions moving its nuclear weapons to untraceable submarines that roam the oceans. Previously the Soviets could simply explode 15 kiloton nukes, every half hour, above the fixed USA land based silos.


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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:12 pm

people have reported being taken to underground bases where aliens and humans worked side by side...they are real...
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:29 pm

gorgeous wrote:people have reported being taken to underground bases where aliens and humans worked side by side...they are real...


What is the exact location of one of these bunkers?

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Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:31 pm

All the US Armys secret bases mapped on Google maps ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../All-US-Armys-se ... -mapped-...

Daily Mail


Dec 15, 2013 - The location of 650 off-limits, secret U.S. military bases have been charted ... The larger ones being city sized deep underground military base
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:32 pm

US Underground Bases - Anomalies Unlimited

www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Bases.html

This is a list of known or suspected U.S. Underground Bases, the purpose of each (hey, I'm just passing ... U.S. Underground Military Facilities . . . click for map.
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Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains------ Perfect Paperback – June 23, 2015

by Mary A. Joyce (Author) ----------There are military bases hidden beneath North Carolina's mountains that most people have never heard about. Even those who are aware of facilities under Area 51 in Nevada and other Western States may not be aware of North Carolina's secret bases. Remarkably, those bases are located near well-known tourist attractions in the state: Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Mount Mitchell State Park, Devil's Courthouse on the Blue Ridge Parkway and Chimney Rock State Park. Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist. The information about the secret bases is mostly from those with military, law enforcement and high security backgrounds plus citizens who have stumbled upon evidence. The 8.5 x 11 inch magazine-style book also features lots of photos and maps that go along with the testimonies.
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:00 pm

in the videos^^ a huge Navy ship underground...why??....Noah's flood?....and underground tennis courts...
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:08 pm

gorgeous wrote:people have reported being taken to underground bases where aliens and humans worked side by side
gorgeous wrote: the US Armys secret bases mapped on Google maps ...


Try again and stop dodging.. Where exactly are these secret bases with the aliens.?

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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:21 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:What is the exact location of one of these bunkers?
gorgeous wrote:Daily Mail


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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:54 pm

gorgeous wrote: Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist.


I would find that hard to be plausible, if they really are massive underground bases people would surely commute into them from nearby locations all the time?

There are probably other reasons why people would have to commute into them, thus making them quite obvious, that I have not thought of too.

Maybe the person who wrote that is confusing caves in tourist desinations with military bases?
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:57 pm

no the dumbs are real...lives have been threatened if they tell....---------------http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com

**My sources of information include people who worked in the labs, abductees taken to the bases, people who assisted in the construction of them, intelligence personnel (NSA, CIA, etc.) and UFO-Inner Earth Researchers...The Dulce Book by Branton

Joint Human and Alien Underground Bases
- By Sherry Shriner

Pine Gap - Alice Springs, Australia. This base is a massive multi-leveled facility run by the Club of Rome which, like the Bilderberger organization, is reputedly a cover for the Bavarian Illuminati. Pine Gap is to be a major control center for the New World Order Dictatorship and is equipped with levels of computer terminals tied-in to the major computer mainframes of the world.
Dulce Base - under Mt. Archuleta, Dulce, New Mexico. Located close to the Colorado border and situated on the Jicarella Apache Indian Reservation. The town of Dulce is located off U.S. Route 64 population 900-1,700. A small town with one motel and a gas station. The base is located 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce and almost overlooks the town. Joint CIA-Alien base. 95 miles northwest of Los Alamos. Biogenetics Laboratory including but not limited to: Atomic Manipulation, cloning, studies of the human aura, advanced mind control applications, animal/human crossbreeding, visual and audio human chip implantation, abduction and feeding off of humans including children.

The Second Largest Reptilian and Grey Base in North America. The Central Hub.

-1st Level - contains the garage for Street Maintenance.

-2nd Level- contains the garage for trains, shuttles, tunnel-boring machines and UFO maintenance.

-3rd Level - the first 3 levels contain government offices.

-4th Level - Human Aura Research as well as aspects of Dream Manipulation, Hypnosis, and Telepathy. They can lower your heartbeat with Delta Waves and introduce data and programmed reactions into your mind (for those implanted with brain chips). Most people already are, they just don't know it.

-5th Level - witnesses have described huge vats with amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred inside. Rows and rows of cages holding men, women and children to be used as food. Perhaps thousands.

-6th Level= privately called "Nightmare Hall." It contains the genetic labs. Here are where the crossbreeding experiments of human/animal are done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original forms. There are multi-armed and multi-legged humans and several cages and vats of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7 feet tall.

-7th level - Row after row of 1,000s of humans in cold storage including children.


Wright Air Force Base - Dayton, Ohio. Includes a Warehouse with multi-levels underground packed with alien craft, hardware, and even bodies on ice. Headquarters of the infamous Project Blue Book.

Groom Lake, Area 51 - Nevada. Includes the Nellis AFB test range but has nothing to do with underground nuclear testing. Huge underground facility where the exchange of technology takes place.

Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. The expanded eastern portion of the property is known as the S-4 site, others allege its the southwest corner of Area 51. Either way the S-4 area is where the UFOs are stored. Also Dreamland (Data Repository Establishment and Maintenance) under the Groom Mountains is controlled by Greys.

Groom Facility - Large storage area in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts.

Dougway, Utah - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce.

Page, Arizona - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Mercury, Nevada - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Burley, Idaho - underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Denver International Airport - Huge multilevel "city" under the airport.

Oklahoma City - multi-level base and underground shuttle system link between Dreamland and Dulce

Madigan, Fort Lewis, WA - Grey nest

Lakeport-Hopland, Montana - nest of Greys

Lassen & Deep Springs CA - nest of Greys

**It is the bases and connection link bases of Mercury, Nevada; Burley, Idaho; Dougway, Utah; Page, Arizona; the underground systems below the Denver International Airport and also Oklahoma City that are strategic sites that the NWO MUST maintain control over if they are to force America to submit to a one-world government. So it's these that need to come down!

**Other connecting facilities for the Tube shuttle system that link all these bases together are: Taos, N.M., Datil, N.M., Colorado Springs, CO, Creede, CO, Sandia, CO, Carlsbad, N.M. this also extends into a global system of tunnels and sub-cities.

Los Alamos National Laboratory- New Mexico. Genetics Research and bio-technology focused on mind control programming, genetics engineering as in cloning and DNA mapping known as "the exploration of the human genome."

Edwards Air Force Base - Mojave Desert, Southern California - underground base extends as far as 2 miles down.

Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica

Alsace-Lorraine Mountains area of France-Germany

Death Valley - Panamint Mountains region, California. Huge "Federation" base, Andro-Pleidian Nordic base (non-interventionists)

Camp Hero near Montauk Point - Long Island, NY. 8-Level Base that connects to the ITT center in New Jersey. The ITT center also has a connection/link to the Sub-Global Network.

Underwater bases off the coast of Florida and Peru.

Mt. Shasta - Telosian-Agharti Alliance (humanoid base). The central metroplex of Telos is said to consist of a multi leveled complex over 5 miles deep and at least 20 miles in circumference. Telos has subterranean connections via tube shuttles to at least 100 other subterranean cities below North America as well as to cites below South America such as the city of Posid below the Matto Grasso region of Brazil. The site of Alien and human meetings. Includes the infamous Telos City where it has been said that every president since Grover Cleveland has visited there.

Underground base in the Plumas National Forest in Northern California

Ehachapi, California - major center for joint alien/human activity

Kirtland Air Force Base - replicates UFOs, also an underground research facility where abductees have been and are taken (just as Dulce and others where their implanted, used and abused and sent back home). Located in the Manzano Mountain range south of Kirtland, AFB.

Blue Lake, New Mexico - base under the lake. UFOs seen both entering and and exiting the water.

Human UFO Fleet Bases:

Norton Air Force Base, California - UFO Garage. Known to store at least 3 of them.

Craft are stored in SE Dulce, Durango, CO, Taos, NM and the main fleet is stored at Los Alamos (under).

Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in and around the Santa Fe National Forest are allegedly the major nest of Reptilian and Grey forces in North America, although there are a number of large dens scattered throughout the underground networks between Dulce and Area 51.

Dulce is a major through point as a central infiltration zone for surface operatives, as well as an operational base for abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals, UFO ports, and so on.


1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico, towards Los Alamos is another 800 miles of tunnels.

The underground highways travel in the same directions as the shuttle system known as the Terradrive Shuttle or the Sub-Global System. One must be a very high ranking Mason, 33 or higher, Corporate-Intelligence Agent, or an Alien to gain access to the shuttle/tube system. Even though it's paid for from your tax dollars!
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"Left at East Gate" by Larry Warren and Peter Robbins is an extensively documented account of the UFO incident that occurred in late December of 1980 on the American airbase at Bentwaters and Woodbridge located in the Rendlesham forest.

Larry Warren was on duty and claims to have seen not just flying UFO's, and "funny-lights", but an actual landed craft with occupants. In addition he claims that he and other security personnel were ordered to surround the craft while the commanding Air force officer in charge of the detail seemed to have some type of telepathic communication with the occupants of that craft! This story and or, numerous parts of the incident were subsequently corroborated by over 20 witnesses who were somehow involved either directly or in a peripheral manner. Shortly thereafter, Warren claims he was escorted into a huge underground complex of the base and "de-briefed" by special sections of the CIA, and NSA. While in the complex, Mr. Warren also claims to have seen aliens working with and alongside Air force and Intelligence personal. In the interim, he is subsequently discharged from the service for his outspokenness, and becomes totally obsessed in his personal mission to prove that..." he really saw what he claims to have seen.
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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:08 pm

We have at least some public sector logistics, the channel Tunnel in the UK. Always amazes me as it takes a good day to cross to France on the ocean. Seeing what constraints they had would enable some basic engineering facts to be considered.
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:11 pm

mach 1 trains in above videos.....they have the huge boring tunneling machines
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Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:12 pm

^ That book about the Dulce base is another schneider thing. Well he at least talked about it a lot as being an alien research base he worked at. As soon as the alien things start to come up he loses me a little.

The source for that long book you quoted above, Sherry Shriner, also does not have a wikipedia page either.

But Dulce base does: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_Base
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:27 pm

dulce has been named by many people....aliens are real....
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:44 pm

Hmm well given the time that Schneider gave his talks (much later than Bennewitz published his book(s?) on it) it's entirely possible he just read Paul Bennewitz's books on the subject and cashed in. Like Matt claimed above. However I have yet to see any kind of commercial enterprise started by Schneider in terms of books or other ways to make money back then, it all seemed to be invited public talks.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:19 pm

Just watched the first dozen minutes or so of some of his talks. A lot of the areas and corporations he worked for do seem to be real things. I will create a checklist soon for further investigation.

(start this at 1:10, out of all his references the names of these can't be phonetically deciphered, at least by me ... anyone?)
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:27 pm

Meh, he came up with a load of top secret materials in that talk on stage, and had them in hand, made by human technology that we apparently 'got from reverse engineering alien tech originally', such as 'scalenohedral crystals' organized in 'a bespoke metallic way', and other things apparently 'in wide use by the military'. Why he didn't send them to a university or some place that they could be studied by, to verify his claims, is highly suspicious, in terms of his credibility. He died two months after that talk. Which conspiracists might have a field day over ...

My thoughts are is that he had a vivid imagination. I would like to hear his wifes take on this issue (if he had one) or his families. His father was in Kriegsmarine in the war but was captured by the French and turned over to the third army (possible Operation Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip), later he 'was instrumental in building the USS Nautilus', also the pebble-bed reactor, and became an MD doctor for the Navy later in his career. He told Phil and his family about some of this on his death bed. So the story goes.

There are three ways to do things: The right way, the efficient way, and the military way. I remember that vaguely from somewhere else.

I can not find his fathers name. I've only listened to 30 mins so far.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby TJrandom » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:52 pm

gorgeous wrote:people have reported being taken to underground bases where aliens and humans worked side by side...they are real...


Yes, people are real... the rest is just your imagination.

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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:44 pm

zeuzzz wrote:such as 'scalenohedral crystals' organized in 'a bespoke metallic way'


Ok a bit weird ... I started this thread as I do remember back in my conspiracy theory years, before I adopted the skeptical mindset (still working on that one) Phil was one of the few people I looked into that did tend to throw up things that seemed to end in actual ... erm, things. This is just from 30 mins of his talks. I will create a phonetic library of claims in the not too distant future.

"'scalenohedral crystals' organized in 'a bespoke metallic way'"

scalenohedral crystals leads to Calcite on goole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcite

Which leads to this:

"High-grade optical calcite was used in World War II for gun sights, specifically in bomb sights and anti-aircraft weaponry.[8] Also, experiments have been conducted to use calcite for a cloak of invisibility.[9] Microbiologically precipitated calcite has a wide range of applications, such as soil remediation, soil stabilization and concrete repair."

[9] Chen, Xianzhong; Luo, Yu; Zhang, Jingjing; Jiang, Kyle; Pendry, John B.; Zhang, Shuang (2011). "Macroscopic invisibility cloaking of visible light". Nature Communications 2 (2): 176. arXiv:1012.2783. Bibcode:2011NatCo...2E.176C. doi:10.1038/ncomms1176. PMC 3105339. PMID 21285954.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3105339/

Full text: https://arxiv.org/abs/1012.2783

Macroscopic Invisibility Cloaking of Visible Light
Xianzhong Chen, Yu Luo, Jingjing Zhang, Kyle Jiang, John B. Pendry, Shuang Zhang
(Submitted on 13 Dec 2010)

Invisibility cloaks of light, which used to be confined to the imagination, have now been turned into a scientific reality, thanks to the enabling theoretical tools of transformation optics and conformal mapping. Inspired by those theoretical works, the experimental realisation of electromagnetic invisibility cloaks has been reported at various electromagnetic frequencies. All the invisibility cloaks demonstrated thus far, however, have relied on nano- or micro-fabricated artificial composite materials with spatially varying electromagnetic properties, which limit the size of the cloaked region to a few wavelengths. Here we report realisation of a macroscopic volumetric invisibility cloak constructed from natural birefringent crystals. The cloak operates at visible frequencies and is capable of hiding three-dimensional objects of the scale of centimetres and millimetres. Our work opens avenues for future applications with macroscopic cloaking devices.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:46 pm

Gorgeous, as much as I loves ya, you really need to supply better evidence than the daily fail.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby gorgeous » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:31 pm

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ------- Arthur Schopenhauer
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 pm

Shh for now, unless you got science + non anecdotal evidence, If you have not noticed so far that is a prerequisite to the linear / skeptical mindset.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:54 pm

zeuzzz wrote:We have at least some public sector logistics, the channel Tunnel in the UK. Always amazes me as it takes a good day to cross to France on the ocean. Seeing what constraints they had would enable some basic engineering facts to be considered.


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In terms of visible rubble, this apparently.

The rubble removed to make the tunnel was turned into a park.

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The leftover seven million tons of chalk, rock, and debris that was dislodged to make the Chunnel was deposited to create Samphire Hoe Park, a 74-acre nature reserve in Southeast England.


Any so called underground bases would have similar structures within a near radius. I've yet to find enough google locations to check.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:55 am

gorgeous wrote: Pine Gap - Alice Springs, Australia. This base is a massive multi-leveled facility run by the Club of Rome which, like the Bilderberger organization, is reputedly a cover for the Bavarian Illuminati.
Pine Gap is run by the old Australian Defence Signals Directorate. Foreigners are not allowed in the "Over the horizon" rooms. Pine Gap passively monitors gaps in ambient radar up through the pacific and other areas.

There are no aliens at Pine Gap. Gorgeous is making up rubbish stories.
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Note that Gorgeous is running away, from saying which secret bases contain aliens, as per her original claim.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:04 am

zeuzzz wrote:Just watched the first dozen minutes or so of some of his talks. A lot of the areas and corporations he worked for do seem to be real things. I will create a checklist soon for further investigation.


"Schnieder claimed that 66 "Delta Force" soldiers (from both the US and NATO countries) died that day in the underground base fighting the aliens, and only three survived (including himself)."

Start investigating this claim by Schneider. :lol:

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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby zeuzzz » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:12 pm

Yeah I think maybe it was an attention + self importance thing. However the whole black budget thing is something I'm still way interested in, will start another thread soon.
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Re: Phil Schneider

Postby Matthew Ellard » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:42 pm

zeuzzz wrote:Yeah I think maybe it was an attention + self importance thing. However the whole black budget thing is something I'm still way interested in, will start another thread soon.


Don't start another thread. If you want to look for "black budgets" you need to do a lot of things.

"Piggybacking"
* Firstly, identify actual tangible large scale projects and which department is ostensibly accountable for this project.
* Then look at department financial reports under the FOI Acts to see if they match up.
* Then use econometric ratios ( A series of tools for analysing the integrity of financial reports) and determine if there is other projects in that expenditure.
* Determine a traceable product ( ie "tons of cement") and go to source documents or suppliers and see if the volumes purchased match the project.
* Form an opinion.


This is what happened in WWII specifically concerning the German super-bunkers. The Brits did not have one spy in Germany until 1942. When those boys & girls did get in, they took photos of half completed projects and looked at really boring invoices or chatted to suppliers. As Germany had to import commodities from external countries like Sweden this was easier than you think.

The classical example is "Wolfram" (Tungsten). Tungsten is used in cutting tools and in armour piercing anti-tank shells. If Germany produced X tons of Tungsten and Y amount of cutting tools and Tungsten production reduces, then if the public announced cutting tools production volume remains constant, we can assume a significant drop in anti-tank shells. .....and that is exactly what happened. German tanks had the best anti tank shell but each tank only carried three of these shells.


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