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Postby Pyrrho » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:33 am

http://www.psypost.org/2016/02/narcissi ... iefs-41253

Individuals who hold strong beliefs in conspiracies often also score high in narcissism and low in self-esteem, according to 2015 research.

The series of studies, published in Social Psychological and Personality Science, examined individuals to determine whether self-evaluation plays a role in predicting conspiracy beliefs.

“Previous research linked the endorsement of conspiracy theories to low self-esteem,” said Aleksandra Cichocka, principal investigator and corresponding author of the study.

“We propose that conspiracy theories should rather be appealing to individuals with exaggerated feelings of self-love, such as narcissists, due to their paranoid tendencies,” she continued.


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http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.abstract

Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:34 am

obviously a conspiracy of govt shrinks...American revolution was a conspiracy...another one here ------Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

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Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government, that originated within the Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint ... ---------------------Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency is a book by James Bamford about the NSA and its operations. It also covers the history of espionage in the United States from uses of the Fulton surface-to-air recovery system to retrieve personnel on Arctic Ocean drift stations to Operation Northwoods, a declassified US military plan that Bamford describes as a "secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba."[1]
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:40 am

Pyrrho wrote:Individuals who hold strong beliefs in conspiracies often also score.... low in self-esteem,
Dad told me that forty years ago, when these people were simply called "fantasists" . :lol:

I did enjoy the theory concerning collective narcissism. As you know I'm interested why the wooists on our forum don't talk to other wooists? Even in the collective "wooist" threads, Holocaust Denial and Climate Change, the wooists still seem to stick to themselves.

I think the the problem here, is our small sample of wooists suffer other behavioural disorders, so I can't point at one reason or the other. It's definitely interesting.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:40 am

The problem with most such studies is the correlation is weak meaning there are many other variables as well. Besides--its rather circular isn't it? There is obviously something "wrong" with conspiracy theorists, after that, put any label you want on it.

More interesting though is how to identify voters and what gets them out to vote and for which general party or argument? Or is this a follow on to the comment elsewhere that conservatives/Republicans are more about conspiracy theories while liberals/Dems are more about New Age Woo?

How can this information be put to its best use/understanding?? We already discount them for input value on every blog I have ever read.....except the wack job web sites set up for that very purpose.
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:46 am

are scientists ever wack jobs?...shouldn't it be whack jobs? do you people REALLY believe conspiracies never happen??
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read and learn-------

36 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True - PrisonPlanet Forum


forum.prisonplanet.com › ... › Assassination, Murder, Suicides, Accidents -----------------------33 Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out To Be True, What Every ...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread531572/pg1 infowars 33 conspiracies -----1.

The Dreyfus Affair: In the late 1800s in France, Jewish artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus was wrongfully convicted of treason based on false government documents, and sentenced to life in prison. The French government did attempt to cover this up, but Dreyfus was eventually pardoned after the affair was made public (an act that is credited to writer Émile Zola).

2.

The Mafia: This secret crime society was virtually unknown until the 1960s, when member Joe Valachi first revealed the society’s secrets to law enforcement officials. What was known was that organized crime existed, but not that the extent of their control included working with the CIA, politicians and the biggest businesses in the world.

3.

MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a “truth serum” to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured. At least one man, civilian biochemist Frank Olson, who was working for the government, died as a result of the experiments. The project was finally exposed after investigations by the Rockefeller Commission.
----it was actually funded by the Rockefellers...their hospital abuses...mk ultra continues today --multiple personalities are created, spies, assassins, sex slaves...videos of victims on youtube------------------4.

Operation Mockingbird: Also in the 1950s to ’70s, the CIA paid a number of well-known domestic and foreign journalists (from big-name media outlets like Time, The Washington Post, The New York Times, CBS and others) to publish CIA propaganda. The CIA also reportedly funded at least one movie, the animated “Animal Farm,” by George Orwell. The Church Committee finally exposed the activities in 1975.


5.

Manhattan Project: The Manhattan Project was the codename for a project conducted during World War II to develop the first atomic bomb. The project was led by the United States, and included participation from the United Kingdom and Canada. Formally designated as the Manhattan Engineer District (MED), it refers specifically to the period of the project from 1942–1946 under the control of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, under the administration of General Leslie R. Groves. The scientific research was directed by American physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer. The project’s roots lay in scientists’ fears since the 1930s that Nazi Germany was also investigating nuclear weapons of its own. Born out of a small research program in 1939, the Manhattan Project eventually employed more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion ($22 billion in current value). It resulted in the creation of multiple production and research sites that operated in secret. With the total involved, this makes it one of the largest conspiracies in history. Entire towns were built for short periods of time, employing people, all under secrecy and top national secrecy at that. The government never admitted to it, the media never reported on it, and people had no idea for over 25 years. Project research took place at over thirty sites across the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.
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Asbestos: Between 1930 and 1960, manufacturers did all they could to prevent the link between asbestos and respiratory diseases, including cancer, becoming known, so they could avoid prosecution. American workers had in fact sued the Johns Manville company as far back as 1932, but it was not until 1962 that epidemiologists finally established beyond any doubt what company bosses had known for a long time – asbestos causes cancer.


7.

Watergate: Republican officials spied on the Democratic National Headquarters from the Watergate Hotel in 1972. While conspiracy theories suggested underhanded dealings were taking place, it wasn’t until 1974 that White House tape recordings linked President Nixon to the break-in and forced him to resign.
-------------------------8.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.------------------------23. Kennedy Assassination – the 2nd Investigation by Congress Few People Know About, United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA): The HSCA was established in 1976 to investigate the John F. Kennedy assassination and the Martin Luther King, Jr. assassination. The Committee investigated until 1978, and in 1979 issued its final report, concluding that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated by a conspiracy involving the mob, and potentially the CIA. The House Select Committee on Assassinations undertook reinvestigations of the murders of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. In 1979, a single Report and twelve volumes of appendices on each assassination were published by the Congress. In the JFK case, the HSCA found that there was a “probable conspiracy,” though it was unable to determine the nature of that conspiracy or its other participants (besides Oswald). This finding was based in part on acoustics evidence from a tape purported to record the shots, but was also based on other evidence including an investigation of Ruby’s mafia connections and potential CIA and/or FBI connections to Oswald. To this day, many conspiracy deniers are unaware that the Congressional investigation into JFK’s assassination concluded beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was a conspiracy. What made them come to this conclusion? Aside from reading the report, many witnesses (some of whom were CIA agents and station chiefs in Dallas that morning) were killed the night before testifying. For example, George de Mohrenschildt was a petroleum geologist who befriended Lee Harvey Oswald during the months preceding the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. He also worked for the CIA. He also blew his brains out the night before he was to testify to the committee. ----------------------28.

Operation Paperclip: Operation Paperclip was the code name for the 1945 Office of Strategic Services, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency recruitment of German scientists from Nazi Germany to the U.S. after VE Day. President Truman authorized Operation Paperclip in August 1945; however he expressly ordered that anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism” would be excluded. These included Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold, who were all officially on record as Nazis and listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces.” All were cleared to work in the U.S. after having their backgrounds “bleached” by the military; false employment histories were provided, and their previous Nazi affiliations were expunged from the record. The paperclips that secured newly-minted background details to their personnel files gave the operation its name.-----------.....more......
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:16 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:How can this information be put to its best use/understanding??
Psychological warfare and propaganda. :D

In the second Boxer Rebellion, the Chinese believed they were protected from bullets by divine intervention. The British promoted this "woo" right up until the rebellion started. They then shot "Boxers" in market places. The Boxer morale collapsed.

In Vietnam the US was "positive" it could win a conventional battle against the NVA, if only the NVA stood firm. General Giap planned to do exactly that and humiliate and demoralise the US army, in 1976, but the war ended before General Giap accumulated his resources for a large conventional battle. (That's why China got its arse kicked by Vietnam, when China invaded Vietnam in 1977, because China stupidly followed USA military beliefs. Vietnam was already prepared for a large conventional battle and destroyed China and then took on China's ally Cambodia.)

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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:24 am

more conspiracies...search medical experiments on humans....many long lists of horrors by scientists and doctors over several decades....including Dr. Salk....uranium experiments , plutonium experiments,radiation ,tortures, ---wiki------1 Surgical experiments
2 Pathogens, disease, and biological warfare agents 2.1 Late 19th century
2.2 Early 20th century
2.3 1940s
2.4 1950s
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:31 am

gorgeous wrote:more conspiracies..
You absolute moron. You are simply posting lists of conspiracies in thread discussing the psychology of those who believe in conspiracies. :lol:

So...Pam, you have very low self esteem and have to keep repeating your "woo wares" to simply get attention.

You are a perfect example of what Pyrrho's presented paper was saying.
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:36 am

same article^...still occurs today, often in 3rd world countries....----In 2004, University of Minnesota research participant Dan Markingson committed suicide while enrolled in an industry-sponsored pharmaceutical trial comparing three FDA-approved atypical antipsychotics: Seroquel (quetiapine), Zyprexa (olanzapine), and Risperdal (risperidone). Writing on the circumstances surrounding Markingson's death in the study, which was designed and funded by Seroquel manufacturer AstraZeneca, University of Minnesota Professor of Bioethics Carl Elliott noted that Markingson was enrolled in the study against the wishes of his mother, Mary Weiss, and that he was forced to choose between enrolling in the study or being involuntarily committed to a state mental institution.[158] Further investigation revealed financial ties to AstraZeneca by Markingson's psychiatrist, Dr. Stephen C. Olson, oversights and biases in AstraZeneca's trial design, and the inadequacy of university Institutional Review Board (IRB) protections for research subjects.[159] A 2005 FDA investigation cleared the university. Nonetheless, controversy around the case has continued. Mother Jones resulted in a group of university faculty members sending a public letter to the university Board of Regents urging an external investigation into Markingson's death.[160] -------------------------------FDA in Third World Drug Trial Scandals

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Sep 1, 2006 - Experimental tests are conducted in developing countries on sick and vulnerable children under the guise of free and ethical treatments ...
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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

Postby Gord » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:01 am

Pyrrho wrote:http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.abstract

8-) Cool. Cool cool cool.

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.full.pdf+html

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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:15 am

I believe all uprisings and political revolutions are conspiracies...here take a look... ---------List of revolutions and rebellions - Wikipedia, the free ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_re ... rebellions

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509 BC: A political revolution in ancient Rome, following the rape and subsequent suicide of the noblewoman Lucretia, resulted in the Overthrow of the Roman ...
‎BC - ‎1–999 AD - ‎1000–1499 - ‎1500–1699
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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:35 am

gorgeous wrote:I believe all uprisings and political revolutions are conspiracies...
You have an IQ of 70 and tell lies. No one here cares what you think. :lol:

You are here on the forum as an example of a conspiracy "wooist" hippy, who will say anything to get attention. That's what this thread is about. :mrgreen:
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Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:27 am

Belief in conspiracy theories is, to start with, divorced from the question whether they are true or not.

At the core, believing in overwhelming secret forces, be they human, natural or supernatural, is an abdication of personal power and responsibility. It is a great way to retain a positive self-image in face of personal failures since there was no real chance to win against THEM anyways.
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:14 pm

forces are secret until they are known....has nothing to do with self image....try reading the long lists of actual conspiracies...
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Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:17 pm

you missed the point, or gorgeous one...


and btw., I am a strong believer in Local Conspiracies.
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Postby Poodle » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:41 pm

gorgeous wrote:I believe all uprisings and political revolutions are conspiracies ...


Wouldn't that be ... errrrmm ... by definition?

Things fall down - I believe that's to do with gravity.



But yes - I think the stuff Pyrrho is right on the button.

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Postby gorgeous » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:57 pm

Gord wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.abstract

8-) Cool. Cool cool cool.

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.full.pdf+html

Pay per Article - You may purchase this article for US$36.00. You must download your purchase, which is yours to keep, within 24 hours.

:? Crap! Crap crap crap!
---------ah haaa.....it looks like Pyrrho is in on the profiteering shrink conspiracy... :lol:
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Pyrrho wrote:http://www.psypost.org/2016/02/narcissism-and-low-self-esteem-predict-conspiracy-beliefs-41253

Individuals who hold strong beliefs in conspiracies often also score high in narcissism and low in self-esteem, according to 2015 research.

The series of studies, published in Social Psychological and Personality Science, examined individuals to determine whether self-evaluation plays a role in predicting conspiracy beliefs.

“Previous research linked the endorsement of conspiracy theories to low self-esteem,” said Aleksandra Cichocka, principal investigator and corresponding author of the study.

“We propose that conspiracy theories should rather be appealing to individuals with exaggerated feelings of self-love, such as narcissists, due to their paranoid tendencies,” she continued.


The abstract:

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.abstract

Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories
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Pyrrho wrote:http://www.psypost.org/2016/02/narcissism-and-low-self-esteem-predict-conspiracy-beliefs-41253

Individuals who hold strong beliefs in conspiracies often also score high in narcissism and low in self-esteem, according to 2015 research.

The series of studies, published in Social Psychological and Personality Science, examined individuals to determine whether self-evaluation plays a role in predicting conspiracy beliefs.

“Previous research linked the endorsement of conspiracy theories to low self-esteem,” said Aleksandra Cichocka, principal investigator and corresponding author of the study.

“We propose that conspiracy theories should rather be appealing to individuals with exaggerated feelings of self-love, such as narcissists, due to their paranoid tendencies,” she continued.


The abstract:

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/7/2/157.abstract

Does Self-Love or Self-Hate Predict Conspiracy Beliefs? Narcissism, Self-Esteem, and the Endorsement of Conspiracy Theories


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Pyrrho wrote:http://www.psypost.org/2016/02/narcissism-and-low-self-esteem-predict-conspiracy-beliefs-41253

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Postby Gord » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:17 am

Poodle wrote:
gorgeous wrote:I believe that's to do with gravity.

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gorgeous wrote: ah haaa.....it looks like Pyrrho is in on the profiteering shrink conspiracy...
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Matthew Ellard wrote:Dad told me that forty years ago, when these people were simply called "fantasists" .


Dont recall ever hearing that word befor. Within a haf owr uv reading that I watched Top Gear. Worst car ever. and he sez 'fantisists'. (its really just a commercial for a DVD)

Now, if the pattern holdz, I'll be seeing & hearing it regularly and find that I had encountered it in the past. Documented here in the American Idol topic, I rote that I never saw the name 'Sioban' befor & it wuz popping up everywhere, but since then I'v seen it in credits for moviez I'v seen long befor that.
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Postby Monster » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:50 pm

Gord wrote:
Poodle wrote:
gorgeous wrote:I believe that's to do with gravity.

due (like my library books)

She was correct. If she wrote this

That's do to gravity.

then you'd be correct.
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Postby gorgeous » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:16 pm

didn't
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Postby Monster » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:29 pm

gorgeous wrote:didn't

That response made me lost for a moment, and then I realized that it was Poodle who wrote the incorrect statement, not gorgeous.
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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

Postby Gord » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:35 am

Monster wrote:
Gord wrote:
Poodle wrote:
gorgeous wrote:I believe that's to do with gravity.

due (like my library books)

She was correct. If she wrote this

That's do to gravity.

then you'd be correct.

You're right. I have no friggin' clue what I was talking about. I don't even think I was kidding when I wrote that!

Not only that, but I got the quote wrong too. Poodle said it, not georgeous.

Clearly I've lost it. Or I never had it. Or it didn't exist in the first place.

(Heh heh, I wrote "georgeous". I'm gonna leave it there, it's funny.)
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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

Postby Gord » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:40 am

...also, my library books aren't due for another week. :hmm:
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Postby JO 753 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:19 am

Gord wrote:Or it didn't exist in the first place.


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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

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Matthew Ellard wrote:Dad told me that forty years ago, when these people were simply called "fantasists" .
JO 753 wrote:Dont recall ever hearing that word befor. Within a haf owr uv reading that I watched Top Gear. Worst car ever. and he sez 'fantisists'.


There is Psychology Today article, that deals with same issues that are also in Pyrrho's posted article. It is directly applicable to forum members Zeuzzz, Freebill and Roscoe, in that they have unrealistic views as to their self assessed superior skills, as all three suffer from Narcissistic Borderline Personality Disorder. You can clearly see every defensive step, in their learned routines, as they avoid having to confront hard evidence that they are in fact dimwitted. Generally, on forums, this is simply done by ignoring the "anxious making post's questions". This is something you can't do in verbal conversation.

Poor Zeuzzz claims to be diagnosed as suffering ADHD, but I think that's crap. You can see all Zeuzzz's defence mechanisms as clear text book examples. Zeuzzz goes up "I am the only person here who understands science". When faced with reality, Zeuzzz goes down "Why have you put me on ignore? Why would anyone do that? Stop picking on me."

Psychology Today : The Magical Fantasies of Borderlines and Narcissists
Today, we're going to look at magical thinking, a trait of both borderline and narcissistic personality disorder. This post is in three sections:
* Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, and brilliance (NPD)
* Preoccupation with fantasies of ideal love (BPD and NPD)
* Brief states of paranoia (BPD)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/st ... arcissists

The duty of a clinical psychologist and psychiatrist, is to make the patients life as better as possible from the patient's point of view. It is a noble profession, caring for fellow humans.

For the police interrogator, or group manipulator (organisational psychology), psychological problems are weaknesses that can be exploited. Cults are simply "sets" with a high number of members with shared common psychological problems.


Even in basic management accounting, you have to know all the psychology concerning "firms in stress" or what you and I call "bunker mentality". I had to sack 34 people one by one in one afternoon, from a TV show. They all knew it was coming for two months. It was a nightmare of excuses, insults, total silence, crying, inappropriate laughter, threats of revenge and only one bloke who said "I knew it was coming as we are always over budget and can't fix it".

The Price Waterhouse "Negative Interview" technique is to make these people "decide" in the meeting that was really their choice to leave and they are going to be happier anyway.

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JO 753 wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:Dad told me that forty years ago, when these people were simply called "fantasists" .


Dont recall ever hearing that word befor. Within a haf owr uv reading that I watched Top Gear. Worst car ever. and he sez 'fantisists'. (its really just a commercial for a DVD)

Now, if the pattern holdz, I'll be seeing & hearing it regularly and find that I had encountered it in the past. Documented here in the American Idol topic, I rote that I never saw the name 'Sioban' befor & it wuz popping up everywhere, but since then I'v seen it in credits for moviez I'v seen long befor that.

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Re: Narcissism, low self-esteem and conspiracy theory beliefs

Postby JO 753 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 8:21 am

It haz begun.
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