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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:09 pm

Meanwhile, there are dragons in San Francisco Bay ...

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:54 am

gorgeous wrote:in part 1 the viewers saw the controlled demolition of the towers...near the middle of this part 2 video they saw the submarines that launched the missile that hit the pentagon....later they saw one of the masterminds of 911...described as evil man ....https://youtu.be/S38lGHhnI0I


You really are an idiot.
Why can't the remote viewing experts tell us where this submarine was? Who was in the submarine? How did a submarine launch a missile at the Pentagon?

Even more fun, where do the remote viewers say the three aircraft went?

The Remote Viewers also remote viewed other "top topics".
You forgot to tell everyone that your same remote viewing team has many exciting videos.

They remote viewed Jesus
http://farsightpresentations.com/RV_Pro ... nRuse.html

They remote viewed the aliens landing in Atlantis
http://farsightpresentations.com/RV_Pro ... Story.html

They remote viewed Adolf Hitler and claim he was a nice guy.
http://farsightpresentations.com/RV_Pro ... _Page.html

They remote viewed the alien civilisation that lives on the moons of Saturn.
http://farsightpresentations.com/RV_Pro ... petus.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPfLijoJ6q0

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:28 am

no one said hitler was a nice guy....Submarine-launched ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Submarine- ... ic_missi...

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A submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) is a ballistic missile capable of being launched from submarines.
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:43 am

gorgeous wrote:Submarine-launched ballistic missile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where were the submarines? Who were on the submarines? What uniforms were they wearing?

You see, this is obvious bull-shit from bad con artists. They can't "remote view" anything.

Are you aware the main remote viewer Courtney Brown, speaks to Jesus and Buddha in his remote viewing sessions? Tell us all exactly how that works? Why is Courtney Brown hinting he is the "voice of god" to Jesus and Buddha?

* Brown, Courtney (1996). Cosmic Voyage: A Scientific Discovery of Extraterrestrials Visiting Earth. Farsight.

* Shermer, Michael (2001). The Borderlands of Science: Where Sense Meets Nonsense

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:45 am

He isn't hinting he is the voice of God...he did view them...other remote viewers have too..
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:30 pm

How do you know all of this, gorgeous?

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:08 pm

I read Courtney's books and other books by remote viewers...they were amazed by their encounters with Buddha and Jesus....now I'm not sure the evil mastermind^^ of 911 was Cheney..though he was likely involved....the viewer would have recognized Cheney...it could be this guy....high pitched voice...ruthless. thin lipped... https://youtu.be/BggghBfUdmk
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:13 pm

peters^^^has military intelligence background...and the pic looks like him...
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:09 am

gorgeous wrote:He isn't hinting he is the voice of God...he did view them...other remote viewers have too..


He claims to talk to Jesus and Buddha. You haven't actually read his books have you?

How can he talk to Jesus while remote viewing Gorgeous? How does his words go back in time? Is he really God as he claims? :lol:

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:33 am

time as we know it doesn't exist....all time occurs in the now moment...he never claimed to be God...remote viewers are able to see any person ,place, thing, event in the past,present, future...all occur now in different levels of consciousness....
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:09 am

georgeous wrote:...remote viewers are able to see any person ,place, thing, event in the past,present, future...


Give one testable example.
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:11 am

see above videos.....a few viewers saw the same details of the events, missile, demolition, planning meetings, forged documents, remote controlled planes into the towers....
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:13 am

it is probable futures as the future is always changing in each moment...different versions of the future happening now on different levels..----------------------Seth ------, “As I have said that the walls of your house do not actually exist as such, so the time divisions that you have placed within the spacious present (that represent past and future) do not exist.” ---------, “The moment point is the creative framework through which you constantly form corporeal reality; and through that window into earthly existence you form both its future and its past.”
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby TJrandom » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:09 am

gorgeous wrote:...remote viewers are able to see any person ,place, thing, event in the past,present, future...


That would be a privacy violation. Should I sue?

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:51 pm

go ahead and try...some out of body travelers have met their past selves and their future self...
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:58 pm

Poodle wrote:How do you know all of this, gorgeous?


... is what I asked you, gorgeous. Your reply appears to be that it's merely what you've read. Would that be fair?

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:23 pm

yes
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:03 am

Gorgeous ...

In the 1950s, I was a young boy who read all about Richard the Lionheart - how good a man he was, how great a king he was, how he defended the downtrodden English peasantry against his evil brother, Bad Prince John, and the ever-so-nasty Sheriff of Nottingham. Everyone knew these things because it's what all the history books said.

No one then admitted the insidious influence a determined set of story-tellers could have on the truth. It was all flim-flam to create a hero of white and very British supremacy in order to justify the existence of a very large Empire. Now, if you want to, you can read all about the worst monarch England ever had - Richard the Lionheart - who did sweet FA for England apart from bankrupting the state several times over. He couldn't even speak English and he was a homosexual to boot. At least, that's what the spin doctors say now. It's very probably the truth this time around, but still no guarantees.

See - it's dangerous to believe everything you read.

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:04 am

gorgeous wrote:see above videos.....a few viewers saw the ........., forged documents,


Can everyone see the big joke? :lol:

The remote viewer can see the "forged" documents,

How does the remote viewer know that forged documents are forged documents? Is there big red writing saying "FORGED DOCUMENTS" on these papers?

Gorgeous? Can you explain how the remote viewers know these are forged documents?

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:14 am

gorgeous wrote:.a few viewers saw the same details of the events, ......, .
gorgeous wrote:.fake..planted evidence to con the public who are gullible


When are the "remote viewers" going to announce the details concerning the evidence of a crashed aircraft at the Pentagon? They saw the evidence being planted, the trucks, the uniforms of the blokes doing this and all the details, didn't they?

The "remote viewers" did see this, right? They can tell us exactly when and how this happened, right?

Gorgeous, can you ring the "remote viewers" up, interview them and write up a report about how the fake evidence was planted. Then go to the David Icke forum and post your report.

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:52 pm

poodle the govt program was real....the viewer had the impression documents were being forged for the con on the public...they planted fake plane parts at the pentagon after many in the public stated no plane parts were seen and the hole was far too small for a plane ...
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:20 pm

Wow - thanks for that, eggs. Gorgeous almost had me convinced.

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:44 pm

the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Poodle » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:50 pm

The Stargate project was abandoned in 1995.

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:28 pm

not likely...it just went underground...govt lies...they know it works...didn't want the public learning how to do it
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Postby Poodle » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:00 pm

Nahhhh - even AboveTopSecret accepts 1995 as the termination date.

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

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gorgeous wrote:.the viewer had the impression documents were being forged for the con on the public...

So you are now saying the "remote viewers" don't actually see forged documents, but rather....have a "gut feeling" that there must have been forged documents.......... but didn't see them or identify them?

OK we can now eliminate this as some idiot's "gut feelings".

So why can't the remote viewers see the people planting evidence ( aircraft parts at the Pentagon) and give us all those details?

Why do you keep running away from this question?
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

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Matthew Ellard wrote:So why can't the remote viewers see the people planting evidence ( aircraft parts at the Pentagon) and give us all those details?

They're too busy viewing things that will make them rich, gathering military intelligence to help defeat tyranny, and finding people's lost socks.
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Paranormal evidence for 9/11 : Debunked

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:22 am

Poodle wrote:Gorgeous almost had me convinced.
....I don't think so. :D

Essentially, Gorgeous has run out of OBE You-tubes, to spam on the forum, so she has moved onto remote viewing.

However, the same simple experiments that debunked OBE's in the 90's, also debunks remote viewers. No remote viewer can read a simple message, written on a bit of paper, placed inside a safe or on top of a wardrobe.

The experiment examined remote viewing – the alleged psychic ability to “see” distant locations.
https://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/20 ... t-results/

"More than 1000 people participated, with paranormal believers claiming high levels of correspondence between their thoughts and the actual location".

"... the results were the same, with no difference between the groups. So the study didn’t support the existence of remote viewing, and suggested that those who believe in the paranormal are good at finding illusory correspondences between their thoughts and a target ."

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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Cygnus_X1 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:04 am

The acid test of ANY conspiracy is whether is raises more questions than it supposedly 'answers'. The 911 conspiracies end up painting ridiculous scenarios of thermite or 'no planes' or whatever that all leave more questions unanswered than the official version. That's the problem with conspiracy loons...they start out trying to explain a simple easily explained hole in a bucket and end up with their own theory being an utter sieve full of holes.
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gorgeous wrote:the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...

Keeping programs that don't work for decades seems to be the default definition of government expenditures.
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:22 am

gorgeous wrote:the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...
Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain something to us.

Why can't your "remote viewers" tell us where the secret USA government "remote viewers" operate from?
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...
Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain something to us.

Why can't your "remote viewers" tell us where the secret USA government "remote viewers" operate from?
:lol: :lol:


It sounds like you are not very worried about remote viewers voyeuring you in the shower.
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Gord » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:40 pm

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...
Gorgeous? Be a good bloke and explain something to us.

Why can't your "remote viewers" tell us where the secret USA government "remote viewers" operate from?
:lol: :lol:


It sounds like you are not very worried about remote viewers voyeuring you in the shower.

He will smack them upside the head with a phone.
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
gorgeous wrote:the govt doesn't keep the psychic program for decades if it doesn't work...
Gorgeous? Be a goodp bloke and explain something to us.

Why can't your "remote viewers" tell us where the secret USA government "remote viewers" operate from?
:lol: :lol:

----it used to be at NSA, Ft. Meade, Md...probably still is.... My family used to live there... wiki------Stargate Project work primarily involved remote viewing, the purported ability to psychically "see" events, sites, or information from a great distance.[2] The project was overseen until 1987 by Lt. Frederick Holmes "Skip" Atwater, an aide and "psychic headhunter" to Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, and later president of the Monroe Institute.[3] The unit was small-scale, comprising about 15 to 20 individuals, and was run out of "an old, leaky wooden barracks".[4]
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby gorgeous » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:34 pm

NSA Stargate remote viewing file ----CIA letter circa 1984 -134KB (pdf file)


This letter is from the Star Gate Remote viewing archives.

"Staff advisers inform me that during such tasks for us, CENTER LANE sources have often "made contact" far beyond what might be expected by probabilities and coincidence"
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

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wiki----The Stargate Project[1] was the code name for a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland, by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and SRI International (a California contractor) to investigate the potential for psychic phenomena in military and domestic intelligence applications. The Project, and its precursors and sister projects, went by various code names — GONDOLA WISH, GRILL FLAME, CENTER LANE, SUN STREAK, SCANATE — until 1991 when they were consolidated and rechristened as "Stargate Project".
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Re: 9/11 Truthers are Dummies

Postby Gord » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:45 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

The Stargate Project was terminated and declassified in 1995 after a CIA report concluded that it was never useful in any intelligence operation. Information provided by the program was vague, included irrelevant and erroneous data, and there was reason to suspect that its project managers had changed the reports so they would fit background cues....

...Hyman came to the conclusion:
Psychologists, such as myself, who study subjective validation find nothing striking or surprising in the reported matching of reports against targets in the Stargate data. The overwhelming amount of data generated by the viewers is vague, general, and way off target. The few apparent hits are just what we would expect if nothing other than reasonable guessing and subjective validation are operating.

A later report by the American Institutes for Research (AIR) also came to a negative conclusion. Joe Nickell has written:
Other evaluators-two psychologists from AIR assessed the potential intelligence-gathering usefulness of remote viewing. They concluded that the alleged psychic technique was of dubious value and lacked the concreteness and reliability necessary for it to be used as a basis for making decisions or taking action. The final report found “reason to suspect” that in “some well publicised cases of dramatic hits” the remote viewers might have had “substantially more background information” than might otherwise be apparent.

According to AIR, which performed a review of the project, no remote viewing report ever provided actionable information for any intelligence operation.

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