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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:42 am

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Crank him up. Crank him up he'll never stop, never stop. Never, never, never stop.

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:39 pm

The Times-Union, Jacksonville, FL, p. A-5 today:

"3 US contractors dead in shooting" by Sudarson Raghavan and Missy Ryan,
The Washington Post

"...The killings served as a reminder of the threats faced by the roughly 10,600 US troops and tens of thousands of American contractors who remain in Afghanistan..." (emphasis mine)

It seems unlikely that the AP, handmaiden of the US powers-that-be, will acknowledge that tens of thousands of US contractors are employed in Afghanistan.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Flash » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:44 pm

And who were those European and American guys who got shot up by somebody in a Libyan hotel?
Eh... they were the antiquities experts. :lol:
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:38 am

The State Department is apparently trying to streamline its propaganda machine.

Stay tuned to the Associated Press for the latest flavor in Kool-Aid:

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/02/16/stat ... ropaganda/
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Re: The Associated Press

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thank you!

I think you're losing it.
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Re: The Associated Press

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:46 pm

no need to get your panties in a twist A------number
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Re: The Associated Press

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Sure, you're just shaving the sloth, but it's butthose in a wadi in these here parts.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby gorgeous » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:45 pm

see...^^ panties in a twist....
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:12 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:Sure, you're just shaving the sloth.....


One of the greatest expressions ever invented by mankind, and from this very forum.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:31 pm

Not to derail this thread, but here's some entertaining evidence that TV media may be just as disreputable as the Associated Press:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9x-yDyN78
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Major Malfunction » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:16 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Sure, you're just shaving the sloth.....

One of the greatest expressions ever invented by mankind, and from this very forum.

:laff:

I had totally forgotten about that. Ah, good times.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:37 am

Major Malfunction wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Sure, you're just shaving the sloth.....

One of the greatest expressions ever invented by mankind, and from this very forum.

:laff:

I had totally forgotten about that. Ah, good times.

And thank you guys for those. :-D
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:59 am

Sorry I mentioned the Associated Press. What was I thinking?

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:10 am

Are they tinny?


(And are we pushing the envelope? :-P)
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:57 am

Anyone seen this US nerve gas story in an Associated Press piece?
http://www.newsweek.com/how-us-nerve-ga ... -it-317250
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Gord » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:02 am

No, but I've seen this:

Many of the symptoms of Gulf War syndrome are similar to the symptoms of organophosphate, mustard gas, and nerve gas poisoning. Gulf War veterans were exposed to a number of sources of these compounds, including nerve gas and pesticides.

Chemical detection units from Czechoslovakia, France, and Britain confirmed chemical agents. French detection units detected chemical agents. Both Czech and French forces reported detections immediately to U.S. forces. U.S. forces detected, confirmed, and reported chemical agents; and U.S. soldiers were awarded medals for detecting chemical agents. The Riegle Report said that chemical alarms went off 18,000 times during the Gulf War. After the air war started on January 16, 1991, coalition forces were chronically exposed to low but nonlethal levels of chemical and biological agents released primarily by direct Iraqi attack via missiles, rockets, artillery, or aircraft munitions and by fallout from allied bombings of Iraqi chemical warfare munitions facilities.

In 1997, the US Government released an unclassified report that stated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_s ... erve_agent

"The US Intelligence Community (IC) has assessed that Iraq did not use chemical weapons during the Gulf war. However, based on a comprehensive review of intelligence information and relevant information made available by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), we conclude that chemical warfare (CW) agent was released as a result of US postwar demolition of rockets with chemical warheads in a bunker (called Bunker 73 by Iraq) and a pit in an area known as Khamisiyah."

Over 125,000 U.S. troops and 9,000 UK troops were exposed to nerve gas and mustard gas when the Iraqi depot in Khamisiyah was destroyed.

Recent studies have confirmed earlier suspicions that exposure to sarin, in combination with other contaminants such as pesticides and PB were related to reports of veteran illness. Estimates range from 100,000 to 300,000 individuals exposed to nerve agents.

While there are suggestions low-level exposure to nerve agents may be responsible for GWS, 2008 RAC report states that "evidence is inconsistent or limited in important ways".
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Re: The Associated Press

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Operation MOCKINGBIRD — The CIA begins recruiting American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda. The effort is headed by Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham is publisher of The Washington Post, which becomes a major CIA player.

Eventually, the CIA’s media assets will include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service and more. By the CIA’s own admission, at least 25 organizations and 400 journalists will become CIA assets.

---------------1. All history concerning CIA intervention in foreign countries is summarized from William Blum’s encyclopedic work, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995). Sources for domestic CIA operations come from Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen’s The 60 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time (Secaucus, N.J.: Citadel Press, 1997).
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Gord » Sat May 09, 2015 2:38 am

"Operation Stupid is officially over!": A Disturbia Review

A teen living under house arrest becomes convinced his neighbor is a serial killer (IMDb).

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Listen, I get. I went to school. There were plenty of teachers I wanted to just... kill.
So, he caught her on tape. I really didn't want this. All I wanted... was to live in peace, which is why we have to keep the spotlight on you. You've done most of the work already. You were the troubled neighborhood boy who cried wolf. But now, you are really going to snap. First, you killed your buddy... because he was calling your girlfriend behind your back. And now, we got to bring your mom over here... so you can slit her throat... because she just wouldn't stop blaming you for killing your dad. So it sounds good? Good? Pen and paper. [Hands Kale a pen and a piece of paper] Write this down: Dear Ashley, I killed Ronnie...
[Last words] You made me do this.

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Sat May 09, 2015 10:00 am

gorgeous wrote:Operation MOCKINGBIRD — The CIA begins recruiting American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda. The effort is headed by Frank Wisner, Allan Dulles, Richard Helms and Philip Graham. Graham is publisher of The Washington Post, which becomes a major CIA player.

Eventually, the CIA’s media assets will include ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Copley News Service and more. By the CIA’s own admission, at least 25 organizations and 400 journalists will become CIA assets.

---------------1. All history concerning CIA intervention in foreign countries is summarized from William Blum’s encyclopedic work, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II (Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995). Sources for domestic CIA operations come from Jonathan Vankin and John Whalen’s The 60 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time (Secaucus, N.J.: Citadel Press, 1997).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Today it seems that propaganda is more informal. The powers-that-be (State Dept., Treasury Dept., Pentagon), have public relations offices that provide self-aggrandizing press releases from "unnamed sources," and the AP and NY Times report this as news.

For actual news I have Reuters and Anti-War.com on my favorites bar, and generally check them each day to see what's going on in the world; and I get the Times-Union (Jacksonville, FL) mainly to glace at the sports section and to read the Dilbert cartoon.

Forget TV news:
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Frank Hoffman » Sat May 09, 2015 7:42 pm

Tom-Palven wrote:...For actual news I have Reuters and Anti-War.com on my favorites bar.

Just curious… for everyone but Tom; where do you get the information you take into account when forming your concept of the world, that is, where do you get your news?

I prefer The Economist, and BBC (I know, "which part of the BBC"...), but I am open to suggestions.

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Postby Gord » Sat May 09, 2015 7:54 pm

I demand two opposing sources agreeing to something before I begin to accept it. Either that, or the Daily Show.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby OutOfBreath » Sun May 10, 2015 9:50 pm

Frank Hoffman wrote:Just curious… for everyone but Tom; where do you get the information you take into account when forming your concept of the world, that is, where do you get your news?

I prefer The Economist, and BBC (I know, "which part of the BBC"...), but I am open to suggestions.

I enjoy the economist myself. Well minus the editorials and any coverage on british politics (they show a bit too heavily who they like and the articles are many times on tediums uninteresting to non-brits).

Otherwise major norwegian media, particularly the regional paper "Bergens Tidende". I also read a weekly "Morgenbladet" written by and for teachers/writers/culture folks a touch conservative politically speaking, which have good analysis and in-depth stuff normally.

I seem to prefer right-slanted papers. Probably because I want some friction in my reading. :) Give me friction, baby! (Points awarded for those who catch the reference)

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Frank Hoffman » Mon May 11, 2015 3:11 am

Gord wrote:...Either that, or the Daily Show.

Quote from Sen. Bernie Sanders' Facebook feed:

"The bias of the mainstream media is toward sensationalism, conflict, and laziness."
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Mon May 11, 2015 9:22 am

Fox News lies. Yes, we already know this, but this article picked the right poster boy for liar, Sean Hannity. And the guests for "opposing views" on his radio show (Don't watch him on TV.) are ridiculous straw men.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Gord » Tue May 12, 2015 9:35 pm

Tom-Palven wrote:Fox News lies. Yes, we already know this, but this article picked the right poster boy for liar, Sean Hannity. And the guests for "opposing views" on his radio show (Don't watch him on TV.) are ridiculous straw men.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/07/09 ... are-false/

They only checked 93 FOX statements, 91 MSNBC statements, and 40 CNN statements which were all picked using their "news judgment", whatever that is. The process sounds open to bias.

But FOX still sucks. :P
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Re: The Associated Press

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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:21 am

The Associated Press continues to overtake Pravda in propaganda exceptionalism:
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/08/21/form ... e-forgery/
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Re: The Associated Press

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Tom-Palven wrote:The Associated Press has released several articles in the last few days announcing the The Sky is Falling in Egypt because democratically-elected president Mohammed Morsi has seized diatatorial powers. This may be true or partially true, but I am skeptical. What the AP omits is the fact that after Mubarak was overthrown and Morsi won the election, Mubarak's generals and his appointed judiciary disbanded the new parliament, and the US government continued to fund the old regime. This is exactly what has happened in Yemen where Ali Abdullah Saleh was overthrown by a popular revolt despite the use of US drone support and fled to the US temporarily, but the US has continued to support his military dictatorship.

Add to this that while the AP wrings its hands about a potential new dictatorship in Egypt, the US had supported the previous dictator and it continues to support other dictators such as the three king Abdullahs of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Morocco, among others.


The above was from back in 2012. I haven't seen any hand-wringing from the AP about brutal dictator General al-Sisi's seizure of dictatorial powers and imprisonment of winning Freedom and Justice Party parliamentary members and reporters.
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:14 pm

The opposite side of the same publishing BS propaganda coin is avoiding coverage of issues embarrassing to the powers-that-be.

If anyone sees AP coverage of this issue below, please slap me up side the head with it.

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/09/18/cent ... t-welcome/
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AP Robot Journalism

Postby Tom Palven » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:27 pm

AP stories are not only being written by human robots:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/3 ... 79210.html
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Postby JO 753 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:38 pm

Automated drivel! Will wonders never cease?
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:49 am

JO 753 wrote:Automated drivel! Will wonders never cease?


Remember these robots?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dguiAWrUGMM
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Postby JO 753 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:22 am

Wow!

I thot the stationz rote their own copy.

My Q iz; How do I get in in that?
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:58 pm

JO 753 wrote:Wow!

I thot the stationz rote their own copy.

My Q iz; How do I get in in that?


Your reading skills seem fine. A night class in journalism would help your credibility, and being a hot babe would help a lot.

Judging from your picture a makeover would take more work than it did for Bruce Jenner. Sorry, just sayin'.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvmE0faHveQ

I wanted the episode where they makeover Jerry Springer, but coudnt find it.
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Re: The Associated Press

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Tom-Palven wrote to JO:
Your reading skills seem fine. A night class in journalism would help your credibility, and being a hot babe would help a lot.

It's a big secret, but JO actually is a hot baby. She just has an unhealthy relationship with her avatar. :nuts:
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Re: The Associated Press

Postby Tom Palven » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:22 pm

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts offers a different opinion on Russia than CNN, the TV version of the Associated Press imho.

He essentially agrees with Matt Taibbi (Rolling Stone), Max Keiser (Russia Today), and Glenn Greenwald (The Intercept.)
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