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David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:36 pm

I just recently found out this guy was a thing, The guy who saw a ghost cat and now believes in reincarnation, and that David Frum used as a source.

The problem is I actually talked to this guy recently, and he seemed nice.

However looking at his blog afterwords some strange claims are made,

http://www.thomaswictor.com/some-kind-of-a-nut/
1. Michael Shaw from from BagNews( reading the picturesn now) basically forgoes all Psychologist integrity and says upfront that he's going to portray him as insane.
2. The aformention ghost cat photos,
3. seeing a chimp in his spoon (Photos)
And others.

Here's his updated bio.
http://www.thomaswictor.com/about/

And here is Michael Shaw's takedown http://www.readingthepictures.org/2014/07/david-frum-accuses-nyt-and-reuters-of-staging-gaza-hospital-photos/
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:50 pm

None of this makes any sense at all. How many profiles are you going to make before you give up? I notice that Omniverse and Anthony have both now disappeared.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:55 pm

:banghead:

You don't really want to bang your head against the same spot in the wall using the same name.

That would not be prudent.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:58 pm

Uhhh, what? I just joined here to ask about this. Who the hell are they?

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Poodle » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:05 pm

I hate people who begin a conversation with the word "So ...". Stop it. It's stupid.

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:07 pm

Poodle wrote:I hate people who begin a conversation with the word "So ...". Stop it. It's stupid.

Okay I will remember that.

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:15 pm

OmniConsUme wrote:
Poodle wrote:I hate people who begin a conversation with the word "So ...". Stop it. It's stupid.

Okay I will remember that.

How did Poodle know you would do that absent his caution?

btw......I LOVE starting sentences with So.......... except, usually they aren't even sentences.

This might explain alot........except I don't like people who do that either.

So, what ya gonna do?
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Poodle » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:26 pm

OmniConsUme wrote:
Poodle wrote:I hate people who begin a conversation with the word "So ...". Stop it. It's stupid.

Okay I will remember that.

Thank you.

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:26 pm

OmniConsUme wrote:Uhhh, what? I just joined here to ask about this. Who the hell are they?

You haven't asked anything.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:30 pm

LunaNik wrote:
OmniConsUme wrote:Uhhh, what? I just joined here to ask about this. Who the hell are they?

You haven't asked anything.

Could you debunk this guy claims?

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:57 pm

OmniConsUme wrote:
LunaNik wrote:
OmniConsUme wrote:Uhhh, what? I just joined here to ask about this. Who the hell are they?

You haven't asked anything.

Could you debunk this guy claims?

He claims he saw a ghost cat? If he has no evidence for his claims, then there's no need to debunk what he can't prove. There's no point chasing around the Internet debunking things people randomly claim. You could spend your life doing that 18 hours a day, and you wouldn't even make a dent.

This is the process:
1. Make a claim.
2. Show evidence* that supports the veracity of the claim. (If you're posting a link, provide a brief description of what's at the link. Copying/pasting a paragraph or two is helpful.)
3. Make an argument as to how and why your evidence supports the veracity of the claim.
*"Evidence," in claims such as these, does not include witness testimony, hearsay, blurry photos, or poorly conducted "experiments." The legal definition of "evidence" is insufficient.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:10 pm

OmniConsUme wrote:Uhhh, what? I just joined here to ask about this. Who the hell are they?

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:21 pm

Image

Photo of the cat, unzoomed

Image
Photo of the cat Zoomed

The camera shutter closed when I pressed the button for the second image, and when it opened, the cat was gone. Here’s a closeup of the second photo.


Obviously it isn’t clear enough to make out, but to me it appears that the cat’s hindquarters are turning to smoke. Or dematerializing. In fact the entire cat-body seems to be going transparent around the edges. Compare it to the black handrails and mailbox.

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:49 pm

That's the stupidest {!#%@} I've seen in weeks.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby OmniConsUme » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:58 pm

From July 5, 2013, to January 7, 2014, he was the victim of Mike Albee and Lura Dold, professional grifters who posed as book publicists and defrauded Wictor of his life’s savings. To do so they took advantage of his post-traumatic stress disorder with secondary psychotic features, as well as the “brain fog” caused by Meniere’s disease. Both of these conditions create memory lapses and dissociation, which were exacerbated by the suicides of Wictor’s parents in February and October of 2013.

I'm an idiot, Memories are a broken thing and this hurts his testimony worse. (Even though he has said in one that he has excellent recall)

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:15 am

OmniConsUme wrote:Image
Photo of the cat Zoomed

The camera shutter closed when I pressed the button for the second image, and when it opened, the cat was gone. Here’s a closeup of the second photo.


Obviously it isn’t clear enough to make out, but to me it appears that the cat’s hindquarters are turning to smoke. Or dematerializing. In fact the entire cat-body seems to be going transparent around the edges. Compare it to the black handrails and mailbox.

It's a {!#%@} cat. With the flash or sun making its eyes shine. It's not dematerializing or "going transparent" or doing anything except sitting there, waiting for a {!#%@} chipmunk to kill.

Here's a photo of demonically-possessed cats, right before they killed and ate their owner for Satan. OOOOOOOOOO...
Image
What are the facts? Again and again and again-what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what “the stars foretell,” avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable “verdict of history”--what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!
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Case closed / Photo of cat

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:21 am

OmniConsUme wrote:Could you debunk this guy claims?
You already did. You linked to the out of focus photo of a cat. It is simply an out of focus photo of a cat. End of story :lol:

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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:37 am

The "dematerializing" part is a dust mote refracting light. KISS this.
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby scrmbldggs » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:14 am

Weird he didn't notice the horde of bush monsters to the left worshiping the cat...
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Re: David Frum's Source Thomas Wictor

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:32 am

"OmniConsUme" is probably short for "Omni Consumer Products" from the Robocop movie franchise. We are probably dealing with a teenage SF fan or Matt MSV7 again.
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