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Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Bart Stewart » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:17 pm

It is being called a very well documented UFO mystery. In 2014 a Chilean Navy helicopter crew spotted an odd looking object flying off the coast near Santiago, matching their velocity of 130 knots. They had an infrared FLIR high definition camera, and spent ten minutes recording it in visible and infrared. The entire tape can be seen here --

http://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/ ... -sighting/

They go back and forth from infrared to visible spectrum, and I couldn't see much except when it was infrared. The object appears thirty five seconds in, and then for a few minutes I didn't see it at all. It looks asymmetrical, like a potato. The interesting bit comes at 8:15 when the object releases a long plume of gas, apparently quite hot gas, due to its infrared signature.

Numerous explanations have been put forward, but all have problems. The object did not appear on radar, for instance, and there were two radar stations that should have picked it up. The Chilean officials have been studying the case for two years and have no explanation.

It flew at about 1 km above the surface. A drone, maybe?

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:24 pm

Perhaps that was on Bean Day in 2014?

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Postby Bart Stewart » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:56 am

I'm thinking it was the Chile.

Seriously, I thought this was an intriguing case, albeit with a few thousand explanations more likely than space aliens.

If it's not a faked video I am curious as to what it was! It seems unlikely that a military aviation team would fake a video, though that's more likely than space aliens. It is possible that the team were being pranked by someone else. Still, this was a fast moving object recorded by a military unit, one kilometer above the ocean off the coast of Chile. It was a sophisticated hoax if that's what it was.

The kicker is the heat of the gas plume. My best guess is that it was some kind of drone or unmanned craft. Why it released so much hot gas like that is the question.

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Lance Kennedy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:11 am

Easiest explanation.

A reflection of an internal light off the window. Don't laugh. This has been the cause of numerous UFO sightings.

The so-called thermal plume would have been a simple distortion of the reflection. If an aircraft sees something that moves exactly alongside the aircraft, it is probably something that is a part of the aircraft, like a reflection. A genuine space ship would be unlikely to do that. The human tendency to believe and report what they want to believe accounts for the rest.

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Poodle » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:31 am

Lance's explanation above sounds feasible. Certainly the constant distance and speed points in that direction. I'm curious, though, as to how the Chileans can be so certain as to what it wasn't despite a reasonable explanation from the French.

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:45 am

Poodle wrote:Lance's explanation above sounds feasible. Certainly the constant distance and speed points in that direction. I'm curious, though, as to how the Chileans can be so certain as to what it wasn't despite a reasonable explanation from the French.

Because it gets Chile in the international news. That's a rare enough occurrence.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:01 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Easiest explanation.

A reflection of an internal light off the window. Don't laugh.
That's completely absurd, since the UFO video is from a FLIR camera system.

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http://www.pdghelicopters.com/assets/_f ... Safire.jpg

It shows a lack of understanding and I had to laugh.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Poodle » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:37 pm

robinson wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Easiest explanation.

A reflection of an internal light off the window. Don't laugh.
That's completely absurd, since the UFO video is from a FLIR camera system.

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http://www.pdghelicopters.com/assets/_f ... Safire.jpg

It shows a lack of understanding and I had to laugh.


Yeah, I had to laugh too. It is an FLIR bit of kit and the display unit is no doubt right behind it with the operator sitting on one of the landing skids. OR maybe - just maybe - the display unit is inside the cabin and the operator is inside the cabin too, where both of then could be fooled by stray reflections. The real question, which neither you nor I can answer, is whether what we're seeing is a direct recording from the kit or an indirect recording of the display screen in the cabin. Laugh? I nearly fell off my seat!
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:37 pm

Is that like the ones that "discovered" the waste gas flares from offshore oil rigs?
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Poodle » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:42 pm

It's hard to tell when you're dangling underneath a helicopter. Worse still trying to hold on to the back of a wing.

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Postby Gord » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:09 pm

"Potato shaped" suggests two round heat signatures, probably from either a single object reflected to make a ghost image, or a diffracted image, or an object with two engines. You can also spot four diffraction spikes around the heat source when the image zooms in.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:08 pm

What is not in doubt, is this is a true high quality video of an actual UFO. That does not show up in visible light. Fascinating.

I always said if somebody got actual undeniable footage of an actual craft (that could not be identified), a credible real source, actual real video, it wouldn't make any difference.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:09 pm

That it is invisible to radar, visible light, and ejected something (twice!), is just too much.

What the hell is it?
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:19 pm

After watching yet again, it seems it's size reduces a lot after the first "ejection", and the second, like it's accelerating away from the camera, so it could be propulsion, it's not "ejecting", that is hot exhaust gas, from an engine.

That it is travelling so fast, and glowing warm, it has to be a machine of some kind.

So footage of an invisible craft (except in IR) flying has been actually achieved.

Who made it? And who is controlling it?

After two years, the authorities either don't know, or they are not saying.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:20 pm

I love how the operator switches to visible, then back, obviously anyone watching the feed from the FLIR is going, "What the hell?", trying to get footage of whatever it is.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Lance Kennedy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:21 pm

It is so clearly not a real object.

Real objects reflect radar and do not follow aircraft around. If it is not a reflection from an internal window, it is an optical effect off a camera lens.

The thing that most people do not realise is how easy it is for humans to deceive themselves. You get a couple of pilots who see an optical effect, and decide it is a spaceship. Thereafter, they rationalise away every possible alternative explanation because it would interfere with their feeling of being 'special.' Their initial perception was flawed and warped by their desire to see something special, and their memory of the event is modified to meet their wishes rather than the reality. Google 'Elizabeth Loftus' for an account of how human memory gets distorted.

The same thing happens to forum members here. They see something silly, which they mistake for a 'wow' factor, and rationalise away any possible rational explanation. It is not quite stupidity, since it is a very human defect.

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Postby robinson » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:19 pm

Unless the Navy and government of Chili is trolling the world hard, it is a real video.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

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robinson wrote:Unless the Navy and government of Chili is trolling the world hard, it is a real video.

'Real' videos and pictures pick up lens anomalies. A camera lens is even easier to fool than your eye, which is notoriously easy to fool.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:13 pm

nothing about temperature ,color wood help , but can be misleading , just assuming hotter cause its darker .
at that altitude the temp of the black spots cood bee 32 degrees f
cood bee hot air left behind by a jet .
trail wood bee just a different angle.

what the flir sees is a temperature difference ; does not have to bee an object
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Postby gorgeous » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:10 am

it's swamp gas...duhhh
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Gord » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:14 am

scrmbldggs wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkTmZoJX7zQ :-P

https://youtu.be/SMfH8_By61Y?t=2m5s :P :P
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Postby Bart Stewart » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:33 pm

robinson wrote:After watching yet again, it seems it's size reduces a lot after the first "ejection", and the second, like it's accelerating away from the camera, so it could be propulsion, it's not "ejecting", that is hot exhaust gas, from an engine.

That it is travelling so fast, and glowing warm, it has to be a machine of some kind.

So footage of an invisible craft (except in IR) flying has been actually achieved.

Who made it? And who is controlling it?

After two years, the authorities either don't know, or they are not saying.

So, let me get this straight. The evidence for climate change isn't good enough for you, but this video is sufficient evidence to declare an anomalous invisible craft is visiting our world. That it?

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:02 pm

Nope. I am saying it is an aircraft. That after two years they couldn't figure this out, shows why I don't trust experts and the government to figure things out.

It was a jet aircraft.

https://www.metabunk.org/explained-chil ... 330.t8306/
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Postby robinson » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:04 pm

Makes a lot more sense than it being an unknown stealth aircraft.
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Postby Poodle » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:45 pm

robinson wrote:What is not in doubt, is this is a true high quality video of an actual UFO. That does not show up in visible light. Fascinating.


You appear to have changed your tune markedly. This obviously proves you are an agent of ET intelligence.

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Lance Kennedy » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:26 pm

If there was no radar signature, it was not an aircraft.
I am still going with reflection, combined with normal human stupidity.

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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:31 pm

Poodle wrote:
robinson wrote:What is not in doubt, is this is a true high quality video of an actual UFO. That does not show up in visible light. Fascinating.


You appear to have changed your tune markedly. This obviously proves you are an agent of ET intelligence.


need to point out that the high quality VIDEO shows nothing .

flir image is showing a temperature difference in the air
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:16 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:If there was no radar signature, it was not an aircraft. I am still going with reflection, combined with normal human stupidity.
I agree with you. People aren't used to IR photography and simple things like lens flare in this format.
Chilean IR Lens flare.jpg

Amusingly, the UFO fans are shooting themselves in the foot again. They, through implication, are discrediting all previous UFO photos of alien UFOs, by saying this new sort of "UFO" is now The Real McCoy.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:09 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Amusingly, the UFO fans are shooting themselves in the foot again. They, through implication, are discrediting all previous UFO photos of alien UFOs, by saying this new sort of "UFO" is now The Real McCoy.

Yeah, and tomorrow if something new appears, that will be the real McCoy.
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Re: Chilean UFO Passes Gas

Postby robinson » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:38 pm

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Numerous explanations have been put forward, but all have problems. The object did not appear on radar, for instance, and there were two radar stations that should have picked it up. The Chilean officials have been studying the case for two years and have no explanation.
And yet the day the video was released, multiple people debunked it.

I checked reddit, and a pilot was the first to respond in one thread, said it looked like a jet going away from the helicopter, climbing, and the ejection was a contrail as it gained altitude and throttled up.

Since it was much farther away, of course the radar didn't see it, because the helicopter pilot said it was lower and much closer.
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