Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Gord » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:12 am

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Gnostic Bishop wrote:Ants do not space travel.

This place is becoming slack.

I keep telling you, I'm extremely lazy! :shakefist:

To claim that ants do not indulge in space travel is blatantly unsupportable - I may even go as far as to accuse you of misarthropy.

Misarthropy covers a wide range. No one's saying lobsters do not indulge in space travel, for instance. Or spiders. It's just ants! Lazy, lazy ants.

I believe the proper term is misformicy. Or at least it would be, if I had my way. My lazy, lazy way. It would be better than misantthropy.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:45 pm

ElectricMonk wrote:Statistically speaking, every species that has evolved on earth has gone extinct unless they haven't.
Humans haven't been around long enough to even begin counting.

FTFY.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby TJrandom » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:24 pm

All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years.... :gum:

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TJrandom wrote:All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years.... :gum:

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He doesn't look too happy hearing that. :-P

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:41 pm

TJrandom wrote:All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years.... :gum:

Yeah, but until the ones alive today go extinct then they haven't gone extinct yet.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Gnostic Bishop » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:44 pm

TJrandom wrote:All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years.... :gum:


Not if we take some into space and to other planets with us.

Thanks for the poor quality speculation.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby TJrandom » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:05 am

Gnostic Bishop wrote:
TJrandom wrote:All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years.... :gum:


Not if we take some into space and to other planets with us.

Thanks for the poor quality speculation.

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No no no no no... you need to learn how to read - with understanding. I did not say all species will go extinct EVERYWHERE, but rather just here on earth.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:27 am

TJrandom wrote:All species will eventually go extinct on earth - given 4 to 6 billion years....
Gnostic Bishop wrote:Not if we take some into space and to other planets with us.
Unless, some magic exists that keeps the exact same ratio, of exactly the same genes, in a species gene pool, all species are continuously evolving.

What I'm suggesting is, the first homo sapien from 195,000 years ago may not be able to have fertile offspring with another homo sapien living on Mars in 5,000 years. Technically they would be different species and one could say the earlier version of homo sapien has become extinct.

By the time humans start spreading through the galaxy in another 50,000 years or so, we will see lots of varying homo sapien gene pools on different planets and none of these will be the same as the first homo sapien gene pool of 195,000 years ago.

Back to aliens
The flip side to this coin is : If an alien species spreads slowly through the galaxy, over a million years or so, then the alien species we encounter at the fringe of their civilisation's expansion may be very different to the aliens living on their original home planet.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:54 am

Matthew is correct.

Life is not limited to a specific time before it goes into extinction. The brachiopod Lingula is 500 million years old. But in fact, all life on Earth is descended from earlier forms going back roughly 4 billion years. I predict that in one million years, there will be no more humans, Homo sapiens. But there may well be lots and lots of Homo superior.

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Postby TJrandom » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:49 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:... But there may well be lots and lots of Homo superior.


Or Homo Inferior... but maybe just Homo Then

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:07 am

TJrandom wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:... But there may well be lots and lots of Homo superior.


Or Homo Inferior... but maybe just Homo Then


When you fall out of Pan
into the fire ~ you dry up
and become a homo then
2% then water. Then you
dry up and blow away.
This is what I've observed
from watching people age then
die. I don't follow~ why do people
follow this pattern?
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby TJrandom » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:24 am

Ah, another drunken post....

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:11 pm

TJrandom wrote:Ah, another drunken post....


Who's drunk?
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:12 pm

Angel

Not drunken, but just as senseless. Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Lance Kennedy wrote:Angel

Not drunken, but just as senseless. Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

It continues because you lot reply.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

It's fun.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby OlegTheBatty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:24 pm

Gord wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

It's fun.

Which one?

Posts that make sense and contribute to the discussion, or the kind of posts we make?
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:46 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gord wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

It's fun.

Which one?

Posts that make sense and contribute to the discussion, or the kind of posts we make?


If they start making ~ you're cleaning
it up . Hahaha
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:49 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Angel

Not drunken, but just as senseless. Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?


When you can find no sence ~
you cannot see. How is this
my problem?
How is this a problem?
What's wrong?
I am listening lol
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?
Angel wrote:When you can find no sence you cannot see. How is this my problem?
The point of a forum is to communicate with others, not for you to post gibberish.
Angel wrote:I am listening lol
No. You are posting. Do you know the difference?

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?
Angel wrote:When you can find no sence you cannot see. How is this my problem?
The point of a forum is to communicate with others, not for you to post gibberish.
Angel wrote:I am listening lol
No. You are posting. Do you know the difference?

And posting garbage, to the detriment of the purpose of this forum. Angel, you're just littering.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?
Angel wrote:When you can find no sence you cannot see. How is this my problem?
The point of a forum is to communicate with others, not for you to post gibberish.
Angel wrote:I am listening lol
No. You are posting. Do you know the difference?


Matthew ~ why do you choose to be so immature ?

One man's gibberish is another man's
Knowledge .
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?
Angel wrote:When you can find no sence you cannot see. How is this my problem?
The point of a forum is to communicate with others, not for you to post gibberish.
Angel wrote:I am listening lol
No. You are posting. Do you know the difference?

And posting garbage, to the detriment of the purpose of this forum. Angel, you're just littering.


And you are the garbage boy/girl? ?
Have you learned nothing?
Go back to cleaning up what you
think is trash.
Enjoy. :-)
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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As usual, you don't see the problem.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:48 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:As usual, you don't see the problem.


Right back atcha.
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Brilliant repartee there, for one with such feeble writing skills.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Brilliant repartee there, for one with such feeble writing skills.

AnHell, do you not know what the "thanks" button is for or is this just more of your garbage posting?
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Angel wrote:
And you are the garbage boy/girl? ?
Have you learned nothing?
Go back to cleaning up what you
think is trash.
Enjoy. :-)


This nonsense barely qualify as spam. It's not even rabbit pellets; it's not even aquarium fish food; it's not even Petri dish nutrients; it's not even animal food trough water. But for some reason it's allowed here, why?

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Angel wrote:Matthew ~ why do you choose to be so immature ?
No. I am quite mature. I am pointing out to you that you are spamming your childish religious rubbish on a scientific skeptic forum.

You think you should be allowed to do this without criticism. That's never going to happen.

Please go away and post on a religious forum with your own people.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Gord » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:08 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gord wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:Why do you not post messages that make sense and contribute to the discussion?

It's fun.

Which one?

Posts that make sense and contribute to the discussion, or the kind of posts we make?

I don't know.

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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Angel wrote:Matthew ~ why do you choose to be so immature ?
No. I am quite mature. I am pointing out to you that you are spamming your childish religious rubbish on a scientific skeptic forum.

You think you should be allowed to do this without criticism. That's never going to happen.

Please go away and post on a religious forum with your own people.


Still rather immature of you to tell
me to go away. How does a person
debate a subject without talking
about it? I discuss things pertaining
to religion. Please grow up.
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Re: Why we have yet to be contacted by aliens.

Postby Angel » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:14 am

Nobrot wrote:
Angel wrote:
And you are the garbage boy/girl? ?
Have you learned nothing?
Go back to cleaning up what you
think is trash.
Enjoy. :-)


This nonsense barely qualify as spam. It's not even rabbit pellets; it's not even aquarium fish food; it's not even Petri dish nutrients; it's not even animal food trough water. But for some reason it's allowed here, why?


Same reason the rest of you are
allowed here. You haven't made a
law yet.
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:40 am

Angel wrote:How does a person debate a subject without talking about it? I discuss things pertaining to religion.
You brainless idiot. This thread is about aliens and not about your stupid "God" and your Christian religion.

GO AWAY!!!!

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Angel wrote:How does a person debate a subject without talking about it? I discuss things pertaining to religion.
You brainless idiot. This thread is about aliens and not about your stupid "God" and your Christian religion.

GO AWAY!!!!


You cannot even prove an alien so
how can you debate what it is?
Maybe it's just a malicious spirit.
You live in fear. I will find the truth.
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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Angel wrote:How does a person debate a subject without talking about it? I discuss things pertaining to religion.
You brainless idiot. This thread is about aliens and not about your stupid "God" and your Christian religion.

GO AWAY!!!!

You people keep reacting to this idiot. Why? If you're bored go to Steam.
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Summary: Most UFO investigators agree that UFOs are conducting a long-term study of our planet and its inhabitants. UFOs have been seen hovering over military installations, nuclear bases, reservoirs and other sensitive structures. Even more revealing is the fact that they have been seen collecting plants and animals of all different kinds.
----------------------Most UFO investigators agree that UFOs are conducting a long-term study of our planet and its inhabitants. UFOs have been seen hovering over military installations, nuclear bases, reservoirs and other sensitive structures. Even more revealing is the fact that they have been seen collecting plants and animals of all different kinds. In addition, research suggests that as many as one in fifty people may have been abducted and given medical examinations aboard a UFO.
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As incredible as it sounds, this may be what is happening. There are several cases on record in which people report having seen extensive collections of plants and animals aboard UFOs.

One interesting case is that of Catherine, an abductee featured in John Mack's book, Abduction. In Christmas of 1990, Catherine was taken aboard a UFO. She was given the standard examination and was then taken to a room where she was shown babies. It was the next room, however, that amazed Catherine the most.

She was led into a room that contained a full-sized, totally natural pine forest. As Catherine says, "I'm confused but it's there. It's in the room, and there's like trees and rocks and dirt and things off to the left. I can see them from where I am."

Catherine was stunned to be inside a forest. It even smelled real. She estimated it to be about the size of a high school gym. There were curving walls going upwards on all sides.

After being taken through the forest, the aliens led Catherine out of the ship and took her back to her home. 1

Extraterrestrials are not only growing whole forests, but they are also collecting animals of all sorts. One well-known case is that of a Wyoming hunter, Carl Higdon. On October 25, 1974, Higdon was hunting elk along the northern boundary of the Medicine Bow National Forest.

Higdon had been searching for game for several hours when he spotted five elk grazing in a nearby field. He lifted his gun, aimed and pulled the trigger.

To his surprise, the bullet went about halfway, stopped and fell to the ground. Higdon then became aware of an unusual-looking figure standing near him. The figure looked human except he had yellowish skin, a slanted head with thin hair that stood straight up and no visible chin. He was extremely bowlegged, and was dressed in a strange black suit with a wide belt.

Higdon was stunned when the figure invited Higdon aboard a UFO that he only then noticed. Before he realized what was happening, Higdon found himself strapped to a chair inside the UFO. He then felt a sensation of movement. Afterwards he was told that they had traveled 163,000 "light miles." Higdon then saw what appeared to be a futuristic-looking city.

After a short while, Higdon was returned. However, while he was aboard the ship, he noticed that the five elk he had been hunting had also been taken aboard. They had been put into a cubicle in which none of them could move. Higdon was told by the aliens that the elk were needed for breeding purposes.2

Another interesting case is that of Denise and Bert Twiggs of Mollala, Oregon. In 1976, the Twiggs experienced a missing-time UFO encounter while driving outside of Rapid City, South Dakota. They explored the event under hypnosis and a typical abduction scenario emerged. The Twiggs, however, worked through the trauma often associated with such encounters. Shortly later, they began having further encounters of a more interactive kind.

They soon developed an intimate relationship with aliens from the Andromeda galaxy who call themselves Andromes. Their story is told in their book, Secret Vows: Our Lives With Extraterrestrials.

During their contacts, they experienced many incredible events including several healings of physical ailments. They have also been taken onboard a large mother ship that contains a full complement of nearly all types of earth animals. As the Twiggs say, "One interesting part of the mother ship is the animal reserve. It is a veritable Noah's Ark. Lions, bears, wolves, birds and elephants are to be found there. The majority of these animals are from Earth, although the Andromes have also brought animals from their own and other planets."

The Andromes are not only collecting animals, but also plants. As the Twiggs say, "Equal to their love for animals is their love for nature. The vegetation on the mother ship for the most part seems much like the forests of evergreens here on Earth, specifically reminding us of the Black Hills of South Dakota, although the trees are not as tall. Yet they do have other plants that are not familiar to us, like their fire bush, a three-foot-tall bush in which a red liquid courses through the almost clear branches. From a distance its luminescent qualities and movement make it appear to have a fire dancing across it. There is also a tree in the shape of a giant banana, whose bark resembles something like the shape of a pineapple." 3

Another case of a perhaps more bizarre nature is that of Katharina Wilson, an Oregon-based real-estate broker who has been having UFO encounters all her life. Wilson has been abducted several times, has been examined by the aliens, has been shown hybrid babies, and has been subjected to many other experiences that are typical of onboard UFO experiences. And like many UFO abductees, she has experienced some interference with the United States military, or some faction thereof.

On July 23, 1988, Katharina was taken aboard a UFO where she saw several people, including members of her own family. Several of them were taken to a large area that appeared to be some sort of a zoo. In large glass cages, Katharina was surprised to see a variety of animals, none of which she had ever seen before. As she says, "This huge, dark area we are in looks like a zoo except, instead of cages, they use big glass rooms. They look like displays. I can walk all the way around them . . . Ooh! I'm looking inside one - I see two gorilla-like Beings and a large cat. The hairy Beings are very tall, and they don't really look like gorillas, but they are all hairy like them. They are asleep."

Katharina was surprised to see that the gorilla-like creature had fallen asleep holding a newspaper, although she had no idea if the creature could actually read. The enclosure did have furniture, including a desk, chairs and books. Katharina also noticed a large cat-like creature. As she says, "There is a cat on the other side of the room. It is white with orange spots, and it is about two to three feet tall. It must weigh over fifty pounds. It was sleeping, but now it is stretching a little and rubbing its face against the wall . . . I'm walking towards another glass enclosure. The animal in this one appears to be half lion and half reptile. It is lying on its back and its mouth has fallen open because it is sleeping. I'm looking at its mouth and I can see rows of teeth. I know what this animal is because I'm telling the people standing next to me. I sense the animals have been saved from extinction. Someone next to me whispers, 'That is something no one on Earth has ever seen before.' I'm nodding in agreement. I'm amazed at what I'm looking at. These animals are incredible."

Katharina's UFO experiences have involved many screen memories and deceptive camouflages set up by the aliens. She feels, however, that the animals she saw were actually there. As she says, "The animals in the glass enclosures were very real. Again, I did not sense any deception here. Yes, they were unusual, but I felt at that time, and still believe today, that these animals were very rare and were being saved from extinction. Another possibility would be to compare this area to one of our own zoos. It is also interesting that even today I remember the sex of the reptile-lion was female. While I was in the dark and large zoo area, I did not see any aliens, but I was aware that they were monitoring us."

Katharina believes that the zoos are not really for display purposes, but are actually for the animals' own benefit. As she says, "I believe these animals were being helped in some way. Yes, they were captive, but they were healthy and well-cared for. The glass appeared to be one-way viewing, that is, we could see the animals, but the animals could not see us. Somehow, I knew these animals were very special to the aliens and we had to be very quiet when viewing them." In March 1989, Katharina was again taken to the alien zoo. On this occasion, however, she saw only birds. As she says, "I must have passed out and now they brought me to another place. I see cages with birds - the cages are about eight feet square. This is like a zoo, except they have only birds."4
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more ----------In 1950, in Westminster, Massachusetts, Betty Andreasson was abducted by aliens from a field behind her home. She was placed inside a large disk filled with jelly-like liquid. As Betty watched through a porthole, the UFO took off and dived into a large body of water. Afterwards, the UFO rose into an underground cavern.

The cavern was completely natural except that there were odd cube-like structures situated in clusters. As Betty approached the cube-like structures, she was shocked to see that they were clear like crystal. And inside each one was a person!

As Betty says, "I'm just moving along beside those odd - I don't know what you would call them - icicles, square icicles or glass things. I don't know. And there is light there . . . There's people in there, there's some people in there. . . . There's people inside those things. There's some people in there. . . . Inside those glass things, there's some people. But they're not moving."

Betty looked more closely, and she could see that each figure was surrounded by their own distinct scenery. Even more shocking was the wide variety of people represented. Betty saw a Native American, a man from the Renaissance and people from all different times and races. There were also many children. The cubicles were too numerous to count. As Betty says, "There's an Indian in there. . . . There's a whole bunch of people in there. . . . There's people there that are dressed funny and old fashioned. . . . I seen Chinese and just all different peoples there. . . . There's all these different peoples there. . . . There's all these different frozen, or something or other, people there. There's even a dog and a cat and some animals too. There's a whole bunch of stuff there, but I can't see it all."

Betty was then taken to another room that represented a beautiful scene of nature, all in what appeared to be glass. As Betty says, "Oh, everything is just like it's clear glass, like a forest of clear glass. There's leaves and trees and grass and everything, everything. And the birds, they're like thin, thin, thin glass . . . the only thing is, there's nothing moving. There's even birds flying, but they're not moving. And there's butterflies."

At this point, Betty reached out and touched one of the glass butterflies. To her surprise, it came to life, fluttered around and returned to its frozen state. She reached down to the ground and touched the flowers. The same thing happened. As Betty says, "I'm touching some of the flowers and - Oh! The flowers are beautiful. The color is coming into them and it smells beautiful. Oh. I'm going to touch some leaves. Oh, it's just so beautiful."

Betty was then told by the aliens, "This is for you to remember so mankind will understand."7

In 1973, Betty Andreasson was taken to an even more extensive zoo. It was a perfect reproduction of a pond in a forest. In fact, it was so convincing, that when Betty was placed inside the room, she thought she was actually outside. As she says, "I'm in the woods. I don't know how I got here from there, but I'm in the woods . . . it's so green and beautiful. And there's a pond right there. The water is so clear. I can see fish there. Oh wow! There's - it's just loaded with fish. Loaded! Loaded! . . . All sizes of fish in there. And such a small pond too. Oh, and I can see ferns. And it is just so beautiful."

Betty noticed that there was no sun but sort of a strange, even lighting. Shortly later, the pond began draining and Betty saw that it was actually an artificial pond.

Later during the experience, Betty had a chance to communicate with the extraterrestrials. They explained in no uncertain terms that their zoos are actually saving the species on our planet from total extinction. As Betty says, "He says that they are the caretakers of nature and natural forms - The Watchers. They love mankind. They love the planet Earth and they have been caring for it and Man since Man's beginning. They watch the spirit in all things. Man is destroying much of nature. . . . They are curious about the emotions of mankind. . . . He's saying that they have collected the seed of Man, male and female. And that they have been collecting every species and every gender of plant for hundreds of years so that nothing will be lost when the last shall come."8

There are many other cases of this kind, but the general pattern is clear. The cases fall into two main types. The first type is a simple collection of genetic material and live specimens. The second type seems to involve genetic experimentation with exotic, unknown creatures.
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gorgeous wrote:Alien Zoos - UFO Evidence

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Where?

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Postby gorgeous » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:14 pm

then there is the history of the 'watchers'....it is found in biblical sources about watchers of the Earth....... wiki----Book of Enoch[edit]

In the Book of Enoch, the Watchers (Aramaic עִירִין, iyrin) are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to lust for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them. The offspring of these unions are the Nephilim, savage giants who pillage the earth and endanger humanity
-----Daniel[edit]

In the Book of Daniel 4:13, 17, 23 (ESV)[4] there are three references to the class of "watcher, holy one" (watcher, Aramaic `iyr; holy one, Aramaic qaddiysh). The term is introduced by Nebuchadnezzar who says he saw "a watcher, a holy one come down (singular verb) from heaven." He describes how in his dream the watcher says that Nebuchadnezzar will eat grass and be mad and that this punishment is "by the decree of the Watchers, the demand by the word of the Holy Ones" ... "the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men."
-----Philo[edit]

According to PrEv 1.10.1-2 of Philo of Byblos, Sanchuniathon mentioned "some living beings who had no perception, out of whom intelligent beings came into existence, and they were called Zophasemin (Heb. șōpē-šāmayim, that is, 'Watchers of Heaven'). And they were formed like the shape of an egg."[9]



Damascus Document[edit]

A reference to the "fall of the watchers from heaven" is found in Hebrew in the Damascus Document 2:18 echoing 1 Enoch 13:10.[20]

Kabbalah[edit]

The Zohar makes reference to the "watchers" of Nebuchadnezzar's dream.[citation needed]

Possible Babylonian/Aramaic origin[edit] ---------------------Zecharia Sitchin in The Stairway to Heaven, states:


The Akkadians called their predecessors Shumerians, and spoke of the Land of Shumer. It was in fact the biblical Land of Shin’ar. It was the land whose name - Shumer - literally meant the Land of the Watchers. It was indeed the Egyptian Ta Neter - Land of the Watchers, the land from which gods had come to Egypt.

So, Sumeria could mean “Land of the Watchers,” and it is from this land that the Elohim or Shining Ones, who governed the Watchers, also came.




According to Jonathan Ben-Dov of the University of Haifa, the myth of the watchers began in Lebanon when Aramaic writers tried to interpret the imagery on Mesopotamian stone monuments without being able to read their Akkadian text.[30]

Depictions in popular culture[edit]

There have been many different depictions of the Grigori in fiction and wider popular culture.

"The Watcher" is a recurring character in multiple Marvel Comics, making his first appearance in "Fantastic Four #13" in 1963. He is eventually identified as "Uatu", a member of an advanced race tasked with watching over the human race but not interfering with human history. Uatu violates this mandate by occasionally involving himself in human affairs due to the fondness he has acquired for humans over the many millennia of watching them.[31]

In the television series "The Highlander" a group called "The Watchers" was introduced. Their task was to observe the immortal "Highlanders", but again without direct interference.

The film Wings of Desire depicts the city of Berlin, Germany being watched over by angels.
---------------------The Book of Jubilees, sometimes called Lesser Genesis (Leptogenesis), is an ancient Jewish religious work of 50 chapters, considered canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church as well as Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews), where it is known as the Book of Division (Ge'ez: መጽሃፈ ኩፋሌ Mets'hafe Kufale). Jubilees is considered one of the pseudepigrapha by Protestant, Roman Catholic, and Eastern Orthodox Churches.[1]------Four classes of angels are mentioned: angels of the presence, angels of sanctifications, guardian angels over individuals, and angels presiding over the phenomena of nature. Enoch was the first man initiated by the angels in the art of writing, and wrote down, accordingly, all the secrets of astronomy, of chronology, and of the world's epochs. --------The Watchers: The Secret Design Behind UFO Abduction - Raymond ...



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