Arsenic in rice.

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Arsenic in rice.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:15 am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/0 ... _21714519/

Surprise. There is arsenic in rice. The arsenic comes from natural rocks and gets washed into rice paddies, where the rice plant absorbs it.

Is it dangerous ?
Yes, and no.
If you eat a lot of rice and do not wash it, then yes. Washing rice before cooking reduces the amount of arsenic.

My own view is that eating too much rice is bad because it is pretty much pure starch with very little dietary fibre and very few valuable nutrients. Health food it is not. The possibility of harm from arsenic is an added reason not to eat too much.

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby TJrandom » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:19 am

This portion is either factually incorrect... or at best, misleading.

...brown rice has higher levels of arsenic than white because the highest levels of the arsenic are found in the husk. The husk is removed to make white rice, ...


The husk is removed from all rice - even seed rice, prior to soaking it for germination. The husk may or may not have the highest levels of arsenic, but since the husk is always discarded, it doesn`t matter.

What makes brown rice white, or polished rice - is the removal of the `rice germ` or `rice bran`. This is removed by a grinding/polishing step.

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:27 pm

But ... I died from arsenic poisoning. It must have been the rice. I ate 2-3 tons of it a year.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:43 pm

I thought the lead led to lead poisoning. :-P
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Postby ElectricMonk » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:07 pm

Well, I tested the hypothesis of Arsenic in rice by leaving rice-balls to poison rats.
The results are not very encouraging so far.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:23 pm

:hmm: Looks like your experiment will cause an eventual cataclawsm.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:51 am

I always wash rice, but not because of arsenic. I wash it because:
1. I like to get rid of some of the starch, and
2. There's usually at least one pellet of rat poop in rice, so I'm assuming there's also rat pee.
Suffice it to say that I mean it quite literally when I say I rinse the crap out of rice with piping hot tap water before cooking it. :mrgreen:
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:29 am

On rat poop.

If we all truly understood what we were eating, we would stop, and starve to death.

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Postby Gord » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:03 am

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:54 am

Her: People stop eating veal when they learn how it's made!

Me: Meh, I still wondering what the problem is with cannibalism.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby TJrandom » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:36 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Her: People stop eating veal when they learn how it's made!

Me: Meh, I still wondering what the problem is with cannibalism.


I prefer nibbling on sashimi.... ;)

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby ElectricMonk » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:33 pm

If Game Hunting is better than trophy hunting, then cannibalism must be better than just murder.
Especially if you manage to destroy all the evidence.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:59 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Her: People stop eating veal when they learn how it's made!

Me: Meh, I still wondering what the problem is with cannibalism.

A good marinade works wonders on gamey venison, so I imagine it would work just as well for long pig. :P You'd probably want to adjust either the acidic element or the fat content depending on whether you got your long pig at Walmart or Fashion Week. :mrgreen:
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:07 pm

TJrandom wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Her: People stop eating veal when they learn how it's made!

Me: Meh, I still wondering what the problem is with cannibalism.


I prefer nibbling on sashimi.... ;)

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:50 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Her: People stop eating veal when they learn how it's made!

Me: Meh, I still wondering what the problem is with cannibalism.

A good marinade works wonders on gamey venison, so I imagine it would work just as well for long pig. :P You'd probably want to adjust either the acidic element or the fat content depending on whether you got your long pig at Walmart or Fashion Week. :mrgreen:

Short answer: Sausage.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Lance Kennedy » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:11 pm

If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby TJrandom » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:03 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.


Soooo that`s why zombies are, well, zombies..... :lol:

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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gord » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:14 pm

TJrandom wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.

Soooo that`s why zombies are, well, zombies..... :lol:

Zombies. Pfft. :roll: They're all brains-for-shit crazy.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:35 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.

They don't transfer easily to non-humans, so kaiju are generally safe.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:35 pm

TJrandom wrote:
Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.


Soooo that`s why zombies are, well, zombies..... :lol:

But enough about T.rump voters.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby scrmbldggs » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:50 pm

Mad chow disease?
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Nikki Nyx » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:27 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.

homo sapiens tartare
medium rare homo sapiens burger
medium rare homo sapiens filet mignon
Well, this menu just got a lot shorter.
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Re: Arsenic in rice.

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:31 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:If you are going to be a cannibal, remember to cook the meat very well. Human flesh, for some strange reason, carries lots of human pathogens, and eating if rare can make you very sick.


Kuru Disease / Cannibalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

It has similar characteristics to mad cow disease.
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