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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:56 am

Major Malfunction wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote: No one knows why he posts here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3WcuvL737A


I think the video is spot on .
its the reality for the individual who does not play along
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
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Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:03 am

Maybe you don't get many invitations to parties because you always turn them down?

You know how it works. People will just stop asking. So you have to invite yourself.

Initiative.
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:59 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:no - the right thing would be for me to retire . will be 65 soon and all I can do is lose .
my posts always turn into discussions about me .
that does not matter .
Oh, well maybe you're right. The fight does take a lot out of you. Mine started when I was 34, so I had youth on my side.

psychiatry is a scam wrote:same things that happened to me , will and are happening to new victims .
kids in school , adults trying to work - all forced to take experimental synthetic drugs / medications .
I'm confused. Who's forcing whom to take these drugs? Are you in the US? I've never been forced to take medications.

I will say that I've voluntarily been through trials of a large number of different medications, but have insisted on trying only one from each class of drug and similar mechanism of action. For example, if one SSRI doesn't work for me, my issue is likely not serotonin reuptake, so it's senseless to try another SSRI with the same mechanism. Let's move on to a SNRI and see if norepinephrine is the issue. Make sense?
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Postby Major Malfunction » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:27 am

Living is hard... I mean, you literally have to try not to die constantly.
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Postby Gord » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:55 am

Major Malfunction wrote:Living is hard... I mean, you literally have to try not to die constantly.

I've rarely tried not to do. In fact, I have several bus drivers who could attest to that fact, assuming they still recognise me. :P
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psychiatry is a scam wrote:no - the right thing would be for me to retire . will be 65 soon and all I can do is lose .
my posts always turn into discussions about me .
that does not matter .
Oh, well maybe you're right. The fight does take a lot out of you. Mine started when I was 34, so I had youth on my side.

psychiatry is a scam wrote:same things that happened to me , will and are happening to new victims .
kids in school , adults trying to work - all forced to take experimental synthetic drugs / medications .
I'm confused. Who's forcing whom to take these drugs? Are you in the US? I've never been forced to take medications.

I will say that I've voluntarily been through trials of a large number of different medications, but have insisted on trying only one from each class of drug and similar mechanism of action. For example, if one SSRI doesn't work for me, my issue is likely not serotonin reuptake, so it's senseless to try another SSRI with the same mechanism. Let's move on to a SNRI and see if norepinephrine is the issue. Make sense?



kids in the USA are not pressured to take meds ?
this would be a good topic - list the number of people who were pressured to take meds .
and how they got into that situation .

guessing the main reason - ironically - would be for getting caught / arrested for drug use .

another example - I tried to make an appointment with the shrink clinic I was going to several years ago because of work .
the woman / secretary insisted that I could only come in for medication .
refuse to take meds - no appointment -
for the real minority ; there will be no justice , there will be no peace .
makes sense 2me , so it has 2be wrong .

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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:13 am

just thought of one of my originals - tv show about mental illness . think I had it on vhs tape
a labeled paranoid schizophrenic living near nyc grand central station / Manhattan
talking to his case worker , needed a place to stay and eyeglasses - his were broken , only one good lens.

case worker said he had to take meds first .
month later he was dead .
I remember thinking anyone who can survive there has to be smarter / tougher then me
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:13 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:kids in the USA are not pressured to take meds ?
this would be a good topic - list the number of people who were pressured to take meds .
and how they got into that situation .

guessing the main reason - ironically - would be for getting caught / arrested for drug use .

another example - I tried to make an appointment with the shrink clinic I was going to several years ago because of work .
the woman / secretary insisted that I could only come in for medication .
refuse to take meds - no appointment -

It's usually the opposite in the US. You generally have to go through months of therapy with a psychologist first before you even get to see a psychiatrist...unless you have medical records with a history of diagnoses. Otherwise, it's a waiting list for medication.

It's a different story if you're Court-ordered into therapy because you've committed a crime. There are times when the Court will make therapy a condition of probation. But no one can force you to take medication against your will in the US...unless you're institutionalized in lieu of a prison sentence.
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Postby OlegTheBatty » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 pm

I've known accredited psychologists who would not undertake talk therapy unless the patient was taking some form of medication, usually lithium. The reason they gave was that they didn't have the time to deal with strong emotional outbursts. Mostly, I think, they simply couldn't handle it, so they avoided such situations.

As a Crisis counsellor, I frequently dealt with strong emotions, the training is not all that rigorous, though it does seem to need the right temperament. I never referred anyone to those psychologists.
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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:59 am

sad that normal people are unwilling to admit or comprehend the damage done by a legal / medical complex
that is designed to slowly destroy weak people .
doctors hypocrite oath - never give a sucker an even break .
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Thanks, Turp!
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Turps has its place in society. How else would you get oil-based paint of your hands?
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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:56 am

westboro Baptist church - don't assume bad intent -
ask questions -
stay calm - rightness justified rudeness ---
make the argument , value of our position is or should be obvious and self evident .
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Postby Major Malfunction » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:21 am

Are you off your meds again?
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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:48 pm

Major Malfunction wrote:Are you off your meds again?


only took Zoloft back in the late 90s - so yea I guess that is correct .

are you asking because my rant makes no sense ?

you could google westboro - it might lead you to what I am quoting .

depends on your intent

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Postby Major Malfunction » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:57 pm

I see you, because you're not far off from me. When I was a kid, my father said to me, "Genius is a razor's edge from psychopathy."

That's when I decided to be a mostly nice person.

Taunting people in grief isn't nice.
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Major Malfunction wrote:Taunting people in grief isn't nice.

Good comment/conclusion. Thats what I would draw from my understanding of any Westboro reference. I suppose, Psych could be asked, and expected to, actually expressly state his idea? Lots of nutty ideas feel good in contemplation but recognized as nonsense only when sounded out............
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Postby psychiatry is a scam » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:45 pm

oops - I googled westboro
guess I should have included megan phelps roper - she did a TED video
a bit past halfway she gives 4 steps - the first is - DON'T ASSUME BAD INTENT

I always assume bad intent
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:15 am

gee whiz bro: buy a link.
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westboro.jpg
psychiatry is a scam wrote:westboro Baptist church - don't assume bad intent -
psychiatry is a scam wrote:oops - I googled westboro

How about you stop posting anything until you actually know what you are posting about.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:gee whiz bro: buy a link.


either the cia is blocking my links ( I was able to do it a couple times )
or im too stupid :frown:
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Matthew Ellard wrote:westboro.jpg
psychiatry is a scam wrote:westboro Baptist church - don't assume bad intent -
psychiatry is a scam wrote:oops - I googled westboro

How about you stop posting anything until you actually know what you are posting about.


did you watch the TED video by megan ?

thanx for responding - :)
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:11 am

phpBB [video]
https://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_lefthttps://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_left

I've never had a link address not copy and paste, so that part is you.

sometimes its our own browsers that won't let this website make the link.. I tried all our options above. Just a black screen in my Preview...sometimes they play at a later date.

I "never" watch/read about prior adherents to whacko anything. The source has been tainted.
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psychiatry is a scam wrote: did you watch the TED video by megan ?
No as you didn't post a link.

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Postby Gord » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:47 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote: did you watch the TED video by megan ?
No as you didn't post a link.

It's Megan Phelps-Roper's TED talk about why she left the Westboro Baptist Church: https://www.ted.com/speakers/megan_phelps_roper

A former member of Westboro Baptist Church, Megan Phelps-Roper is now a writer and educator on topics related to extremism, bullying and empathy in dialogue.
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Postby Major Malfunction » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:55 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:I always assume bad intent

I always assume stupid. Most people aren't malicious. Just selfish. Very few people are actually malevolent.
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"just selfish"...... is the key. Or other negative connotations...............
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Postby Austin Harper » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:03 pm

psychiatry is a scam wrote:either the cia is blocking my links ( I was able to do it a couple times )
or im too stupid :frown:

Well the CIA is definitely not blocking your links, so I think we can all agree what's going on here.
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Postby Gord » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:07 am

Austin Harper wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:either the cia is blocking my links ( I was able to do it a couple times )
or im too stupid :frown:

Well the CIA is definitely not blocking your links, so I think we can all agree what's going on here.

You don't know who Pyrrho works for!!
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Postby Major Malfunction » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:23 pm

Gord wrote:You don't know who Pyrrho works for!!

He works for The Boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS5N8EAOtVE
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