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Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby JO 753 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:08 pm

I'v been rebilding the site for a few months, unless you count making fonts, then its been since July. Lotta work.

The long pajez uv text werent getting anybody to admit they hav a Rube Goldberg contraption in their brain, so I'm paring it down to a few short paragrafs at most and all ritten in nooalf. I'll eventually hav audio for every paje also.

Wun uv the thingz I'v wanted to do for a long time iz hav the soundz on the chart play wen you hover the mouse over the piks. Bak wen I first put that paje up, it woud play the little mp3 wen you click on each cell. Then sumthing chanjed in the way browzrz work and it either pops up a big player over the chart or openz an entirely new paje! Very unergonomic.

I know sum uv you are real programmerz, so how do I make it play the soundz with mouseover?
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:34 pm

Why?
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Postby JO 753 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:31 pm

To make the human race less stupid.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:36 pm

You're planning suicide?
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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby Poodle » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:43 pm

You need to use Javascript, Jo. This is as good as any method ...

http://webdesign.about.com/od/sound/a/play_sound_oncl.htm

You also need to tell people to enable Javascript in their browser, as a lot of them will have it turned off (it can be a vehicle for a virus or two).

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Postby JO 753 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 am

xanks, Poodle.

I tryd it, but it didnt work. I suspect that the \ that are shown there are to keep it frum being activ on that paje, but deleting them didnt help. Are there other thingz that need to be deleted, added or chanjed to make it work?

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby Poodle » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:51 am

Did you enable Javascript for your browser?

http://enable-javascript.com/

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Postby JO 753 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:56 pm

Yes. I dont hav the comp I'm doing the work on connected to the internet, so hav everything set for no security.

Wen I mousover the test text it showz a little note at the bottom "Error on page".

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Postby Poodle » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:26 pm

Then the mouseover script is working, otherwise you wouldn't get the error message. It looks like you'll have to go over your HTML with a fine-tooth comb.

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Postby JO 753 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:38 pm

Thats the problem. Dont hav a comb. I dont know wut I'm doing. I found another paje that promisez to deliver the java goodz, so I'll giv it a try later. Its alot more code than the frst wun, so I'm going to hav to figure out how to get it frum this kromebook to my main comp.

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Postby JO 753 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:09 pm

I'v tried 3 different sets uv sound onmouseover java and nothing worked yet. It must be even trickier than I thot, considering this site duznt even try to do it, plus the onclick duznt even work and its the entire point uv it: http://eng.universal-soundbank.com/soundbank1.htm

I hav kum up with a way to make onclick work, but its very bulky. A new paje for each sound!

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby JO 753 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:45 am

DUN! http://www.nooalf.com/CoRT.htm

Sure seemed like 2 or 3 weeks, but it wuz only 8 dayz! Bunch uv new piks, all new soundz; even made a 1/5 scale hed for SiMaN just to make it eazier to draw him by cheating with a foto.

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby Poodle » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:03 am

Well done, Jo.

I was beginning to think you'd typed your scripts in Nooalf.

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby JO 753 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:05 am

I dont type fast enuf to confuze myself between nooalf/html. If you saw me doing the code, you'd think I'd never seen a computer before.

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby Daedalus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:33 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:You're planning suicide?


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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby JO 753 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:15 am

Homocide. Gess who.

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Postby Daedalus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:18 am

JO 753 wrote:Homocide. Gess who.


I never pegged you for a homophobe...
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:21 am

Wuts a homop hobe?

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Postby Daedalus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:37 pm

JO 753 wrote:Wuts a homop hobe?


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Postby JO 753 » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:07 am

Found a way to make it work a little better.

Insted uv each sound being an entireley new page, its just a little pop up window. With IE8, it pops up in the upper left corner & if you click the box on the main page agen, the pop up window disappearz behind it and it playz the sound agen. It'l stay there to, so you coud click every box and they will replay without the pop ups showing up agen.

In Google Krome, the paje woud jump up stupidly before. Now it stayz mostly, depending wich box you click. The pop ups dont stop popping tho.

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Postby JO 753 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:36 am

Just in case anybody haz trouble with the pop ups, I added the option to swich to the non pop up version. If I can get the mouseOver thing to work, I also add that, probably az the default.

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Postby JO 753 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:48 am

Found this: http://www.janbrett.com/games/hedgies_alphabet_game/intro.html

It haz an excellent mouseover sound system, but I cant see the code for it. Source code showz only a hand full uv linez. Its in flash.

Iz there a way to see the flash code?

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Re: Rebilding Nooalf.com

Postby Poodle » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:05 am

Not really, Jo. It's probably an SFW file, which means that it's compiled code (which, if you don't know, means that it's the product of a Flash compiler running its mitts over an FLA file. The FLA file - the one actually written by the author - would have been readable, but the SWF file is just a collection of raw executable code.

You can get Flash decompilers which you can use to extract some data (the sounds or images, for instance) but the output from those still won't tell you how the magic was performed.

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Postby JO 753 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:51 pm

How hard iz it to do stuff with flash?

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Postby Poodle » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:27 pm

No more difficult than using embedded Javascript in an HTML document, I imagine. But I've never used Flash in anger.

Take a look here, Jo ...

http://www.flashdevelop.org/

... where you can download an open-source (FREE!!!!!!!) Flash creator/editor tool to play with. The site looks to have a number of useful tutorial links, too.

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Postby JO 753 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:28 pm

Spent the last few weeks transkribing a story I rote 11 yirz ago. Its not that long, but I got transkriberz block! If I'm doing sumthing new, its fun & eezy. Just copying sumthing iz a chore, so I wuz finding all sorts uv other krap to do to avoid it. Finally buckled down and got my noze to the grindstone, {!#%@} & elbowz, etc on satrday and did the bulk uv it. Still took 3 more daze to finish!

So klik the STOREZ butn and slog your way thru it. 8 pajez uv EXTREEM VIOLENCE & SEX! Therez also a short 1 paje parable if you need a warm up.

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Postby JO 753 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:35 am

I hav a paje load question.

I make the pajez in Fotoshop and hit 'save for web' and chooz jpg. A thing at the bottom showz an estimate uv how long the paje will take to load at 28 kilobytes per second (yes, its the orijinal version uv Fotoshop Elements from about 2001!). It showz about 600 secondz for jpg and only 130 for gif.

I uze the jpg anyway kuz it duznt turn the smooth color tranzition into a seriez uv ugly steps and nobodyz on dial up anymore.

Herez my Q: iz it still a big enuf difference on DSL to make it worth worrying about?

And an odd thing occured with the GuD UXR DAZ story. I hav the orijinal left-to-rite version az jpg but the new left-to-rite-to-left version az gif and cant see any difference. No steps!
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Postby JO 753 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:53 am

Poodle wrote:Take a look here, Jo ...
... where you can download an open-source (FREE!!!!!!!) Flash creator/editor tool to play with.


Just tried to join the forum, but therez a spambot stopper question that assumez you are an actual flash developer. The 'forum' looks to be ded az a doornail anyway, with just the creator posting update notisez.
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Postby JO 753 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:32 pm

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Postby clarsct » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:01 am

Ok.

WTF is Fyqcr or fyoocr supposed to be?

Looks like a naughty word to me.
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:04 am

If youre a conservativ it iz.

Future.

See how FUTURE soundz if you pronouns it az if its Nooalf spelling!

I modified the new paje just now. Swicht the text to alternating direction.
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Postby JO 753 » Fri Nov 28, 2014 8:51 pm

Etymology.

Added 1 more BOOM to make it an even duzen. If you can read all uv them and still think therez sumthing to it, you must be a republican!
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Postby Austin Harper » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:21 am

That reads like an argument from ignorance. "I don't understand emology so it can't be useful."
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Postby JO 753 » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:02 am

Austin Harper wrote:That reads like an argument from ignorance. "I don't understand emology so it can't be useful."


Emology

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Postby clarsct » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:16 pm

JO 753 wrote:If youre a conservativ it iz.

Future.

See how FUTURE soundz if you pronouns it az if its Nooalf spelling!

I modified the new paje just now. Swicht the text to alternating direction.


I would pronounce that word, as it looks, as Fyu-ker.

That's what it looks like.

You need a separate 'ch' sound. It's a big part of English. Probably need 'sh', too.
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:58 pm

DUN! http://www.nooalf.com/CoRT.htm

Herez how tedius it iz to explain how FUTURE iz pronounst in nooalf without nooalf:

FU az in haf the letterz uv the bad word you are thinking all the time. TU like 'tug' without the g. RE like in 'regret without the gret'.
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Postby JO 753 » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:19 am

Started a Care2 petition.

Even tho teacherz tend to be gorram Gate Keeperz, I'm mainly appealing to them with it. Got 23 sigz alredy! Interesting that many uv them are frum other countryz.
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Postby JO 753 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:08 am

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Postby JO 753 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:47 pm

Fonts

Finally got around to doing a proper job on the Fonts pajez. Before it wuz just in regular English, wich didnt jibe with the new pajez. Now its in all 3 flavorz!
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Postby JO 753 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:47 pm

WOOHOOO!!!! Got a test paje to do 1 mowsover sound! No I hav to find out how to make it do 33 more.
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