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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:19 pm

Yup Yup Yup global warming means more snow and colder temperatures, more snow on pam trees and.. and ... and more stray cats, and more child brides and more war and everything that's bad. yup yup yup

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According Cody Lindsey, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Mobile, Friday night's snow set a record for the most snow to hit the ground for December 8 in the area, with one whole inch on the ground.

The old record was only a trace amount of snow on December 8, 1942. Local NWS records date back to 1842.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:35 pm

yup, yup, yup===putting the zig in the zag, like a true Science Denier: "How can it average 75 if there is a 100 in there?"

What a goof.
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Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:22 am

Hattiesburg area sees most snowfall since ... well, ever


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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:46 am

Read all about it.............as I'm sure you have. Thereby revealing...............................

Does record snowfall disprove global warming? - Skeptical Science
https://www.skepticalscience.com/Record ... arming.htm
To claim that record snowfall is inconsistent with a warming world betrays a lack of understanding of the link between global warming and extreme precipitation. Warming causes more moisture in the air which leads to more extreme precipitation events. This includes more heavy snowstorms in regions where snowfall ...
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Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:01 am

More than two inches were reported at the National Weather Service office in Sterling, Virginia, in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Four inches of snow has been reported at D.C.'s Dulles airport, a record daily snow for the date.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:42 am

So what?
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Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:53 am

Bobbo suggests Global warming predicts snow and cold in Deep South. ROTFLMAO

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:59 am

"Climate Change" was adopted after Global Warming so that hopefully our next generation of pin heads won't be so mislead by labels.

But...........I withdraw, until you post something reasonable........with links.

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Even Colder Temperatures Are Ahead This Week in the Midwest, East!

I'll keep y'all posted as new records are set

Climate changing for the colder


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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:32 pm

I thought I could start a running column called Famous Failed Climate Science Predictions

Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia once said, within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”. “Children just aren't going to know what snow is,”


from Meteorologist Ryan Maue December 9 reports on another very rare and exciting event :

Is there any place besides South Florida that isn't getting snow? Atlanta suffering from 3-6" of global warming today.



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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:53 pm

Individuals, even highly qualified ones, often get it wrong. THATS WHY: we go with consensus maintained over time that is supported across broad disciplines.

Know what I mean?
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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:22 am

Another boobo lie

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:.I withdraw, until you post something reasonable........with links
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:30 am

Oh Jimbo: I thought what you posted was "reasonable." Instructive Even. Don't you understand...............anything?
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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:19 am

Earliest ice formation on Korean river in 71 years

16 Dec 2017 – A five-day cold spell has led to ice formation on the Han River one month earlier than expected. The ice formation was observed at the Han River Bridge at dawn yesterday, according to the Korea Meteorological Administration.

Freezing of the Han River occurred 29 days earlier than the usual (Jan 13) and even 42 days earlier than last year (Jan 26).

Usually, ice formation on the Han River occurs if the low morning temperature in Seoul falls below minus 10 degrees Celsius for three consecutive days and remains below zero during the day, and that is exactly what happened.

The low temperatures of the morning in Seoul from Monday to Thursday were minus 11 C, minus 12.3 C, minus 12 C and minus 11.2 C. The sub-zero temperatures continued during the days.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:26 am

....................."and=====>" at the very same time, North Pole is averaging 30-40 degrees warmer. See any connection? ((Minus 2 if you mention bears.))

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/north ... 12/01/2017
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Breaking records set more than 100 years ago.

Queensland residents are reaching for cardigans as overnight December temperatures break record lows.

Mount Isa had its lowest overnight December temperate ever on record at 12 degrees Celsius — 11C degrees below average.

“Burketown yesterday had a minimum of 17.7C which was the lowest they’d seen up there since 1920, but that was eclipsed today with 16C, and that’s the coldest December morning since 1907,” said Bureau of Meteorology forecaster David Bernard.

“Richmond yesterday was 11.8C which was the lowest there in December since 1909.”

“I’ve been forecasting for a few decades now and I can’t really remember anything quite this spectacular as far as dry and cool at this time of year,” said Bernard. “It’s the sort of thing we often see in winter which usually leads to really cold winter nights, but we don’t often see it in December.”

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Postby Jim Steele » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:10 pm

Snowline moving south as parts of Mexico getting first snow in decades

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Postby Jim Steele » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:06 pm

Huge snowfalls in the Alps have continued through the past 10 days and Eastern Switzerland seems to be at the heart of the perfect snow storm.

Second Swiss ski area reports almost 12 feet in 7 days.



https://www.inthesnow.com/swiss-ski-are ... ow-7-days/

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Postby Jim Steele » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:28 am

Calgary begins digging out after record snowfall, causing dozens of collisions


The storm also broke the day’s previous snowfall record of 11.7 cm set in 1953.

Calgary’s snowfall was part of a larger system that blanketed much of southwestern Alberta in snow, with the hamlet of Beaver Mines west of Pincher Creek getting as much as 60 cm of precipitation.

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:29 am

Jimbo: we all agree increased snow fall is from AGW. No need to dogpile on what everyone agrees to. Save your snow for disagreements.
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Postby Jim Steele » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:04 pm

Boobo, indeed skeptics laughed at climate scientists who predicted that AGW meant NO MORE SNOW

Here's the top 5 NO MORE SNOW failed climate predictions compared to the year 2014 observations

1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.


2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.

“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”

“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.

Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.

3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.

Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.

But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.

4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.

“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”

But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.

“Many places tied or broke record lows all over the Eastern half of the U.S.,” reported CBS Baltimore.

5.) The end of skiing. Ski towns across the country were worried about their prospects when temperatures temporarily rose up into 50s and 60s in early February. Scientists were fanning the flames by predicting that winter towns could see more hardships ahead due to global warming.

“There’s going to be good years and there’s going to be god-awful years,” said Terry Root, senior fellow at the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment. “The globe is warming so rapidly, and variability is increasing so much – both of those things together, I’m glad I don’t have stock in ski areas.”

But this year has not been all that bad for winter towns. The town of Loveland, Colorado got more than 300 inches of snow this winter, reports CBS Denver, adding that with “snow continuing to pile up at ski areas many are putting this winter in their top 10.” For Loveland, 300 inches is still below normal, but a far cry from the end of snowy winters.


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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:27 pm

For any of these "scientists predict", were there any multi-year studies over a 50 year period that concluded with the support of 97% of qualified scientists and 100% of scientific organizations WHILE the ocean level constantly rose?

As stated: you can find "someone" supporting anything. It really is the CONSENSUS that counts. It avoids nutcases who cry out "We are all going to die" as well as "ain't nuthin bout it."

But like you, I do take comfort that in questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. And thats why I warn as loud as i can: "WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE." Ha, ha.............and Merry Christmas to you too Jimbo.
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Postby Jim Steele » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:49 am

Erie Pennsylvania Shatters Snowfall Records, 55 Inches and Counting

A stationary lake-effect snowband off Lake Erie dumped an incredible 34 inches of snow at Erie Airport on Christmas Day alone, quadrupling their previous record snowiest Christmas Day - 8.1 inches in 2002 - as well as smashing their all-time snowiest single day on record by over a foot - 20 inches on Nov. 11, 1956.


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Postby Jim Steele » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:31 am

Coldest Temperature Record set in 1924 Smashed by 4 bone chilling degrees

International Falls, Minnesota woke up to a temperature of -36F at 6 a.m. Wednesday morning breaking the previous record low for Dec. 27 of -32F set in 1924, according to the National Weather Service office in Duluth. That -36 is the actual temperature, not a wind chill!


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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:51 am

Three posts in a row. Ok.......I'll bite once again: what point are you trying to make? AGW predicts that "weather" will be disrupted. You know what disrupted means????? Thats right: more polar bears.

On polar bears, I recently read for the first time that their latin name is ursus marinus (sp) which means bears of the water as they spend most of their time "on the ocean" on ice flows. That may need to change soon due to all the natural changes occurring right now after the time it takes bears to evolve such behavior. I nominate ursus landfill.
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Snow in Texas Is ‘Pretty Cool’ for Children Seeing It for the First Time

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Postby Jim Steele » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:26 pm

Niagara Falls freezes after wind chill factor drops temperature to -67°C DEGREES across USA ahead of New Year's Eve

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... d-11770571


It appears the freezing of Niagra Falls is becoming more common, now having frozen (but not completely) in 2007, 2012, and 2011, 2014 and now 2017.

This is very similar to the early 1900s with low sunspots and solar irradiance was similarly low.

Imagine how cold it would be without CO2? ROTFLMAO


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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:31 pm

Imagine how cold it would be without CO2? //// No need to imagine. If you believe in Math, at 300ppm the Earth would be on average 1.3 C cooler than it is now.

But you are quite correct to point out how some uninformed boobs will confuse weather with climate. Some of them even think a Polar Bear count means something.
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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby OlegTheBatty » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:55 pm

Could someone inform JS that higher snowfalls means there was more moisture in the atmosphere, as predicted by climate warming models? I'd do it myself, but it would be too much like wallowing in the slops.
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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:03 pm

There is increased and decreased snow fall IN AREAS, and lower and higher Temperatures IN AREAS. Jimbo likes to cherrypick the zigs and zags in the Science Denial position and then post animal pictures when anyone points it out to him. Its like hammering gophers.
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Postby Jim Steele » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:38 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:Could someone inform JS that higher snowfalls means there was more moisture in the atmosphere, as predicted by climate warming models? I'd do it myself, but it would be too much like wallowing in the slops.



ROTFLMAO. Oleg

First if snow falls at about 32F, How much more water does 32F air hold before global warming and how much more water does 32F air hold after global warming. Careful now. Its a trick question for limited scientific thinkers.

Second you DISAGREE with the alarmist climate scientists and their predictions. They (IPCC scientists) are the ones that first predicted snow would be a thing of the past due to global warming. Are you flip flopping and slopping on the snowfall predictions?

Third to reduce the amount of snowfall to the single variable of rising CO2 is pure idiocy. You need to read up the complexities of snowfall. Let me help.

http://landscapesandcycles.net/trenbert ... wfall.html

Finally Oleg, I hope you are not one those knuckleheads that also argues global warming causes record cold, are you? ROTFLMAO

From CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/us/us-win ... index.html

Across the United States, temperature records are falling faster than this week's snowflakes in Erie, Pennsylvania, and it's only going to get worse.


It was a measly 8 degrees Fahrenheit in Worcester, Massachusetts, breaking a record that had stood since 1903.


More records expected to fall this week, and its only the first 2 weeks of winter. I'll keep y'all posted

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:59 am

The temperature in Indianapolis dropped to -12°F (-24C) this morning, tying the previous record for the date set in 1887. Meanwhile, the mercury about 62 miles northwest in Lafayette plunged to -19F (-28C), shattering the previous record of -5F (-21C) for the date set in 1979.

Farther south, a hard freeze hit much of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, dropping to 8F (-13C) near Cullman, Alabama, 20F (-7C) in Mobile, Alabama, 13F (-11C) in Atlanta, and to 2F (-17C) at a weather station at Toccoa, Georgia.

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby OutOfBreath » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:52 pm

What is perceived as real becomes real in its consequences.

"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby Jim Steele » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:10 pm

Agreed Outa!

Heat waves, floods,droughts, warm records and extreme weather have nothing to do with global warming climate change. But the media and alarmist hype it as so.

I'm just restoring balance to the force!
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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby OutOfBreath » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:19 pm

Nice. If you can also bring yourself to utter that the climate is warming and causing us trouble, I might reassess my view of your science literacy, and maybe even remove the "ignore" you currently enjoy.

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Re: Do record lows mean global cooling?

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:46 pm

Jim Steele wrote: Heat waves, floods,droughts, warm records and extreme weather have nothing to do with global warming climate change.

sillier and sillier you get over time Jimbo. Like the effects of a vitamin deficiency. I recommend you get a general checkup.

You current quote above reminds me of Ann Coulter: "Not only is evolution questionable, there is not a single piece of evidence to support it." //// Thats my memory of it.......so I googled for the accuracy. Evidently, her comments were more about Darwin's Theory of Evolution...that it was slow and gradual. Goes right in hand with her Jimbo theory that AGW is not true and that Trumps only failure is to be not crazier than he is.

My quick google did not turn up the quote I heard once, but this is a summary of her various wing nut positions: https://www.csicop.org/si/show/ann_coul ... _on_darwin evidently she believes in intelligent design....at best, evolution is how God made the world, IF she were ever forced to accept the notion.

Ha, ha.......yes, guilt by two degrees of association. I'm not going to waste my time by googling her views on AGW. I'll just assume she is as whacked out as Jimbo on the subject.

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