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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:23 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:No.


ROTFLMAO! Of course you can not quote the source of your fabrications!
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Postby Jim Steele » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:32 pm

More than $100M worth of research may be tainted by govt lab misconduct

USGS accused the chemist of data manipulation by intentionally changing the results produced by the mass spectrometer. The chemist also failed to preserve the data. Further, the Bureau accused the chemist of failing to operate the mass spectrometer according to established practices, which constituted scientific misconduct. …given the widespread use of USGS data and publications by its many customers, scientific misconduct at the Inorganic Section has serious implications for energy and environmental decisions driven by information developed at the laboratory.


http://retractionwatch.com/2016/06/17/m ... isconduct/

Hmmmm failing to preserve raw data seems to be a common way to hide data manipulation, and reminiscent of the Climate-gate affair

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.”

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In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.

The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/29/u-cru/
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:50 pm

Scientists at our leading universities are increasingly found guilty of falsifying data Every week more are revealed.

A research fellow at Harvard has lost his PhD from a university in Singapore after being found guilty of falsifying data, and his former group leader’s contract has been terminated by his institution.


http://retractionwatch.com/2016/07/13/h ... tractions/

Oddly the persistent data adjustments by climate scientists are considered necessary to reveal the "real climate trend" What BS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:38 am

Best video EVER showing how temperature data has been manipulated to create Fraudulent Climate warming!


https://youtu.be/Gh-DNNIUjKU
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:44 am

A Merchant of Doubt.... for a stooge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Goddard
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:A Merchant of Doubt.... for a stooge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Goddard


Typical Bobbo denial ! You have not even viewed the video yet I just posted it.

All the data is official. Watch it change . But you cant handle the truth!
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Sure was hot today.
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Postby Jim Steele » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:20 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Sure was hot today.


ROTFLMAO Bobbo thinks CO2 causes summer! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby robinson » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:42 pm

JIm Steele wrote:Best video EVER showing how temperature data has been manipulated to create Fraudulent Climate warming!


https://youtu.be/Gh-DNNIUjKU
Facts are the last thing that will matter. It's that exact problem that Goddard (Heller) doesn't deal with. If facts were the deciding factor there would be little or no debate. Throwing more and more factual data will not change anything.

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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby robinson » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 pm

Scientific studies have actually shown that facts that go against a deep belief actually do not matter. Not even a little. The information never even reaches the rational brain. MRI scans can actually show this happening.

I know, it's hard to believe.
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:44 pm

The things the consensus is made of :lol: :lol: :lol:

As the Peer Review Congress for 2017 is beginning its preparations, one of the Congress' founding fathers reflects on the effectiveness of peer review in a commentary for the journal Nature

http://www.nature.com/news/let-s-make-p ... ic-1.20194

[T]o announce that first Peer Review Congress, I wrote: “There are scarcely any bars to eventual publication. There seems to be no study too fragmented, no hypothesis too trivial, no literature citation too biased or too egotistical, no design too warped, no methodology too bungled, no presentation of results too inaccurate, too obscure, and too contradictory, no analysis too self-serving, no argument too circular, no conclusions too trifling or too unjustified, and no grammar and syntax too offensive for a paper to end up in print”10.

Unfortunately, that statement is still true today,


Peer review is touted as a demonstration of the self-critical nature of science. But it is a human system. Everybody involved brings prejudices, misunderstandings and gaps in knowledge, so no one should be surprised that peer review is often biased and inefficient. It is occasionally corrupt, sometimes a charade, an open temptation to plagiarists. Even with the best of intentions, how and whether peer review identifies high-quality science is unknown. It is, in short, unscientific.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:13 pm

“False, misleading, or deceptive speech in furtherance of a scheme to defraud receives no First Amendment protection.” ///

Most recent update on a quick google....looks like the case against Exxon is going forward: as it should as the Fraud is OBVIOUS on its Face.

http://www.alternet.orgwww.alternet.org ... attle-ever

All the Oil Co's===including Krotch Brotheres===just have all their assets taken from them to immediately fund solar panels. Lots of waste in such a program: all for the public/world good. "Let's get her done!"
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ROTFLMAO LIke disagreeing with a yet to be proven hypothesis could ever be fraud :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:22 pm

Hey Jim: the hypothesis CAN NEVER BE PROVEN.

What a dolt.
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:02 pm

Hey Jim: the hypothesis CAN NEVER BE PROVEN.

just like tobacco companies. They defrauded the public, lied to the public and shareholders about it, lied to Congress...ultimately got prosecuted for Fraud.

Fits Exxon and AGW like a glove. Referencing the need for "proof of the hypothesis" is a dishonest or uninformed dodge.

The over/under bet right now is whether or not "everyone" (except those on Exxon's Payroll to mouth otherwise) will recognize AGW before you and I die....thats how fast the end times are approaching for those who wish to deny what it obvious to everyone else.
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Postby Jim Steele » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:18 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Referencing the need for "proof of the hypothesis" is a dishonest or uninformed dodge.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

ROTFLMA

Bobbo thinks ab unproven hypothesis is reality!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:36 pm

There is also no proof at all for EVERYTHING you have presented on this subject.

When the ice all melts and the methane is released to kill 95% of all life on Earth....perhaps 200 years from now, but 50/50 could well be sooner---THAT also will not be proof of AGW.

Just as there was no proof that refrigerants were opening a hole in the atmosphere and that stopping the use of refrigerants closed the hole up.

BEST EVIDENCE--is what hoomans act on.........Not Proof. That is but hypocritical misdirection used by SCIENCE DENIERS...because at best they think being in the minority is some kind of badge for independent thinking. Its actually: not being good thinkers at all.

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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:59 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:.
When the ice all melts and the methane is released to kill 95% of all life on Earth....perhaps 200 years from now, but 50/50 could well be sooner---THAT also will not be proof of AGW.


ROTFLMAO Bobbo , my little paranoid alarmist, always pushing "We All Gonna Die!!!!! " :lol: :lol: :lol:

There should be a ban on computer access in insane asylums. ROTFLMAO

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:01 pm

Yep....that is my concern.... and why I post.

What is yours?
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Postby Jim Steele » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:13 pm

Have sympathy for Bobbo. He had a tough go as a a child :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby Jim Steele » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:17 pm

Here's the evidence to support Bobbo's cringing paranoia. ROTFLMAO

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:16 am

Again...yes/always:....that is my concern.... and why I post.

What is yours?

As to your last panel of "Actual Climate Change Pronouncements---by Scientists" I have no doubt all may be true. But AGW TODAY is supported by 97% of scientist expressing an opinion who are also qualified climate scientists. The fact that one or a few dozen who knows who scientists made the quoted statements really is irrelevant.

You don't have to be a scientist to tell the difference between relevant and irrelevant statements in support of any given position. Yours are all irrelevant.

Sucks to be you.....so AGAIN...why do you post??? If the IPCC is wrong...what we get is cleaner air and ultimately a free energy source. When your non-sense is put in the trash or JAIL as it should be...we will avoid the destruction of most life on the planet if not human civilization. A disproportionate "bet" even ignoring the clear science.

Are you on Exxon's Payroll? ---- You don't have to tell us how much.............and don't quibble. ......................... .... (( as if ))
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Postby Jim Steele » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:39 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote: But AGW TODAY is supported by 97% of scientist expressing an opinion who are also qualified climate scientists.


But scientific analyses of peer review and consensus states:

"Everybody [97%] involved brings prejudices, misunderstandings and gaps in knowledge, so no one should be surprised that peer review is often biased and inefficient. It is occasionally corrupt, sometimes a charade, an open temptation to plagiarists. Even with the best of intentions, how and whether peer review identifies high-quality science is unknown. It is, in short, unscientific."


or

Lancet Editor: Half Of Science Is Wrong. An Underestimate?[


http://wmbriggs.com/post/16092/

Sucks to base your self delusions, that you might understand science, on bad science. But someone of your likes are easily fooled as you have already admitted you dont understand or read real science.

ROTFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:34 am

What the recent climate whistle blower said,

read https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/04/clim ... mate-data/
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Postby Jim Steele » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:53 am

When alarmists attack the undeniable evidence provided skeptics with "but but but the 97% says", how much of their 97% is total BS. In a new article

“Peer Reviewed:” Science Losing Credibility As Large Amounts Of Research Shown To Be False the author states

Science today, in all fields, is plagued by corruption. Yet, more often than not, attempts to create awareness about scientific fraud — an issue that few journalists have been willing to address — are met with the response, “Well, is it peer-reviewed?”

Although good science should always be reviewed, using this label as a form of credibility can be dangerous, causing people to dismiss new information and research instantaneously if it doesn’t have it, particularly when that information counters long-held beliefs ingrained into human consciousness via mass marketing, education, and more.


Aint it the truth!

http://wakingscience.com/2017/03/peer-r ... own-false/
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:19 am

Pure FUD. "Science abides."
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Postby Jim Steele » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:41 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Pure FUD. "Science abides."


ROTFLMAO. As I said it doesnt matter how many links i provide, you will deny any and all evidence when it contradicts your gloom and doom. Top medical people have expressed great concerns about bogus peer review, but bobbo thinks he knows more than they and bobbo doesnt even read the peer reviewed literature.
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:53 am

Everything you know is the product of science.......overcoming all the fraud and shortcomings of its practitioners.

Your "science" critique is very much like, if not EXACTLY like, the God in the Gaps attack on science. ............ but science abides. You'd pay attention to that if you could.
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Hilarious, A guy who never reads scientific papers and admits not understanding them, lectures a scientist on what science is ROTFLMAO


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JIm Steele wrote:Hilarious, A guy who never reads scientific papers and admits not understanding them, lectures a scientist on what science is ROTFLMAO
........showme......

I've linked you to the IPCC reports and NASA reports............ repeatedly. You just have to review "all" the evidence and authority.........BEFORE, not after, the filter you put it all thru.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
JIm Steele wrote:Hilarious, A guy who never reads scientific papers and admits not understanding them, lectures a scientist on what science is ROTFLMAO
........showme......

I've linked you to the IPCC reports and NASA reports............ repeatedly. You just have to review "all" the evidence and authority.........BEFORE, not after, the filter you put it all thru.


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Postby Jim Steele » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:46 pm

Somethings Never Change

The truth is, the science of nature has been already too long made only a work of the brain and the fancy. It is now high time that it should return to the plainness and soundness of observations on material and obvious things. Robert Hooke, 1665
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Postby Tom Palven » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:51 am

JIm Steele wrote:The federal government paid out as much as $51 million in green car subsidies for Volkswagen diesel vehicles based on falsified pollution test results, according to a Times analysis of the federal incentives. Such green car incentives have also gone to buyers of hybrid, electric and hydrogen fuel cell cars. But the EPA does not track aggregate figures for incentives paid out to buyers of specific models or brands. –Jerry Hirsch, Los Angeles Times, 22 September 2015


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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:17 pm

Imagehttp://www.zmescience.com/science/exxon-knew-climate-change-26082017/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation

Nothing really new here, just a great picture.

Kill one home invader and fail to drag him into your house and you go to jail for 20 years.

Kill millions to increase your bonus...... and you become the Secretary of State.
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Re: Crack Down on Scientific Fraudsters

Postby Jim Steele » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:25 pm

and the beat goes on....

Two Swedish scientists have been found guilty of "misconduct in research" in a paper that they published in Science1 and later retracted. Their highly publicized work had suggested that tiny particles of plastic in the ocean harm fish.



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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:55 pm

Almost an interesting read...........but I'm confused. My one and only quick read was that the researchers work is removed because they did not actually do the study they refer to (studying fish off some remote island?) but then the actual violation is they violated standards regarding doing "ethical" animal studies or experimentation??.......... but I thought they didn't actually do the study???

I'm sure I read too fast as all I could think of was: What would these Swedes think of every post made by Jimbo?
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