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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:16 pm

...and all the wile he's obsessing about not getting credit for something he never said... :nuts:



And making a military that never was really strong the strongest ever, even though it's at it's strongest now. Or something to that extend. :|
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I forgot to add that all of the above is the Democrat's fault.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:29 pm

He must not know that he who signed the Pay Our Military Act was a Democrat. Oh wait, he knew something:
"“Here’s the truth, the gov't doesn’t shutdown” ... All essential services continue. Don't believe lies.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 23, 2013"



(Today:
" A government shutdown will be devastating to our military...something the Dems care very little about!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 18, 2018"
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

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TJrandom wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:Will a government shutdown stall the Mueller probe?


Oh, is that why they`ll do it?

They'd probably argue that it wasn't vital to national security.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... s-jckttopo

Mueller's team would be unaffected by a shutdown.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:00 pm

Per Netanyahu, US will move Embassy by the end of the year. Trump denied this.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/politics/us-jerusalem-embassy-move-netanyahu-intl/index.html

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

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ElectricMonk wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mueller-probe-won-t-shut-down-even-if-much-of-government-does-jckttopo

Mueller's team would be unaffected by a shutdown.

Not sure if the article addressed a timeline, but according to googling, seems "A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the judiciary will be able to sustain operations until Feb. 9 in the event of a shutdown."
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:36 pm

Is Gorka in trouble in Hungary? Hard to know what's going on here, and the details seem to be unconfirmed at this time.
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:38 pm

Statistical Mechanic wrote:Has been, but today's "interventions" even got to basically every Repub


Ryan is now telling the public what Trump's REAL position is, as opposed to the one he tweeted. Trump is a sock puppet and says whatever the person with a hand up his ass wants him to say.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:40 pm

Yeah, I heard he had to tutor him again...


If the press would stop including his name in their reporting, he'd go bonkers and frantic, but, maybe, eventually keep to his FAUXing and tweeting and otherwise let the pros do their work?
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ElectricMonk wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mueller-probe-won-t-shut-down-even-if-much-of-government-does-jckttopo

Mueller's team would be unaffected by a shutdown.

Not sure if the article addressed a timeline, but according to googling, seems "A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the judiciary will be able to sustain operations until Feb. 9 in the event of a shutdown."

does not apply; Mueller's team is not part of the judiciary - it is a special witch-unit operating outside bureaucratic and legal grounds to persecute innocent people - Sonderaktionen gehen weiter.
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:50 pm

. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

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Statistical Mechanic wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
ElectricMonk wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mueller-probe-won-t-shut-down-even-if-much-of-government-does-jckttopo

Mueller's team would be unaffected by a shutdown.

Not sure if the article addressed a timeline, but according to googling, seems "A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the judiciary will be able to sustain operations until Feb. 9 in the event of a shutdown."

does not apply; Mueller's team is not part of the judiciary - it is a special witch-unit operating outside bureaucratic and legal grounds to persecute innocent people - Sonderaktionen gehen weiter.

But don't some of those have to be run through/approved by the biased so-called courts?
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:57 pm

I hear he's shooting for yet another record: Never in American history has a Congress and WH controlled by the same party been able to shut down the government!


It takes especially ornery children to accomplish that. :lol:
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scrmbldggs wrote:
Statistical Mechanic wrote:
scrmbldggs wrote:
ElectricMonk wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mueller-probe-won-t-shut-down-even-if-much-of-government-does-jckttopo

Mueller's team would be unaffected by a shutdown.

Not sure if the article addressed a timeline, but according to googling, seems "A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the judiciary will be able to sustain operations until Feb. 9 in the event of a shutdown."

does not apply; Mueller's team is not part of the judiciary - it is a special witch-unit operating outside bureaucratic and legal grounds to persecute innocent people - Sonderaktionen gehen weiter.

But don't some of those have to be run through/approved by the biased so-called courts?

Not in the case of witch hunts. There are "stakes" for the burning of the innocent, who are to be sentenced based on the whims of local magistrates. It's all very secretive and convoluted, but, I assure you, witch hunts are not included in the shutdown. Persecution remains ongoing.
. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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:thumbsup:
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. . . I mean Negative Capability, that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason—Coleridge, for instance, would let go by a fine isolated verisimilitude caught from the Penetralium of mystery, from being incapable of remaining content with half-knowledge. - John Keats, 1817

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:25 pm

Upton_O_Goode wrote:Is Gorka in trouble in Hungary? Hard to know what's going on here, and the details seem to be unconfirmed at this time.

"not so extreme vetting"?
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:37 pm

Pee-pee is closer and close to hand:
According to 2009 emails between political operatives who were at the time advising Daniels on a possible political campaign, the adult film actor and director claimed that her affair with Trump included an unusual act: spanking him with a copy of Forbes magazine.

In early 2009, Daniels announced that she was considering challenging Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana Republican who two years earlier had been snared in a sex scandal. Vitter’s phone number was discovered in the records of the so-called D.C. Madam, who ran a prostitution ring in the nation’s capital. Vitter, who now is a lobbyist, was a prominent social conservative who opposed abortion and gay marriage. Daniels, who grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, told reporters she wanted to highlight his hypocrisy. She offered up a potential campaign slogan: “Stormy Daniels: Screwing people honestly.”

. . . According to a May 8, 2009, email written by an operative advising Daniels, who asked not to be identified, Daniels at one point scrolled through her cellphone contacts to provide her consultants with a list of names. The email noted that the potential donors included Steve Hirsch, the founder of an adult entertainment company; Theresa Flynt, the daughter of Hustler’s Larry Flynt; Frazier Boyd, the owner of a strip club chain; and Jenna Jameson, the so-called “Queen of Porn.” Also on the list: Donald Trump.

This email was sent to Andrea Dubé, a Democratic political consultant based in New Orleans. In response, Dubé expressed surprise that Daniels was friendly with Trump. “Donald Trump?” she wrote. “In her cell phone?”

“Yep,” the other consultant replied. “She says one time he made her sit with him for three hours watching ‘shark week.’ Another time he had her spank him with a Forbes magazine.” . . .

The campaign consultant who wrote the email to Dubé tells Mother Jones that Daniels said the spanking came during a series of sexual and romantic encounters with Trump and that it involved a copy of Forbes with Trump on the cover.

A fall 2006 cover of Forbes does feature Trump and two of his children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka. . . .

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -magazine/
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm

I think that this Atlantic piece by David Graham has a most important perspective: "Trump's Quietly Growing List of Victories":
In August, I argued that while Trump was quietly accomplishing more than was immediately clear, nearly all of his accomplishments dovetailed with traditional priorities of the Republican Party—deregulation, judgeships, and the like—while his own distinctive priorities were stuck in neutral. That remains largely the case, as exemplified by the tax bill, which eschewed any of the populist flourishes for which Trump was labeled distinctive in the past. In his immigration enforcement push, he is matching the rhetoric of many establishment Republicans while going beyond what Republican presidents have been willing to do.

In sum, the past few months have been the most productive period of the Trump’s presidency. Even if the president has not become an especially effective advocate for policies, his staff has become more effective at avoiding the problems that sank earlier policy attempts. At times, the White House relationship with congressional leaders has even looked strong, though it’s an up-and-down affair.
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Postby scrmbldggs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:56 pm

So a little closer to what a first year of a presidency normally looks like?



(Also, Melanoma speaks up about that spanking with Forbes + Iwanka business, 'Not true. He prefers to use Time!')
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:23 am

Ty Cobb worried his client (Orange Manatee) won't testify honestly when questioned by Mueller's team: "Trump Lawyer Ty Cobb: POTUS ‘Very Eager’ to Speak With Mueller, but I Hope It’s Not a ‘Perjury Trap’"
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Postby scrmbldggs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:33 am

A paraphrased Meadows: "I'm not in favor of meeting in the middle, and allowing the opposition party in the Senate to vote is currently unfair to the party in control."
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Anyone keeping an eye on Darth Keebler?
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Postby Gord » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:58 am

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
"You are also taking my words out of context." -- Justin
"Nullius in verba" -- The Royal Society ["take nobody's word for it"]
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Postby Gord » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:17 am

If anyone wants to compare their own dementia test results to Trump's, I found the test online. It's a pdf file: http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site- ... sh_7_1.pdf

The scoring says, "add 1 point if ≤ 12 yr edu". Did Trump manage 12 years of education, or did he get the extra point?

Actually, I find it hard to believe Trump actually took this test. I think he probably lied about it.
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Statistical Mechanic wrote:Pee-pee is closer and close to hand:
According to 2009 emails between political operatives who were at the time advising Daniels on a possible political campaign, the adult film actor and director claimed that her affair with Trump included an unusual act: spanking him with a copy of Forbes magazine.

In early 2009, Daniels announced that she was considering challenging Sen. David Vitter, the Louisiana Republican who two years earlier had been snared in a sex scandal. Vitter’s phone number was discovered in the records of the so-called D.C. Madam, who ran a prostitution ring in the nation’s capital. Vitter, who now is a lobbyist, was a prominent social conservative who opposed abortion and gay marriage. Daniels, who grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, told reporters she wanted to highlight his hypocrisy. She offered up a potential campaign slogan: “Stormy Daniels: Screwing people honestly.”

. . . According to a May 8, 2009, email written by an operative advising Daniels, who asked not to be identified, Daniels at one point scrolled through her cellphone contacts to provide her consultants with a list of names. The email noted that the potential donors included Steve Hirsch, the founder of an adult entertainment company; Theresa Flynt, the daughter of Hustler’s Larry Flynt; Frazier Boyd, the owner of a strip club chain; and Jenna Jameson, the so-called “Queen of Porn.” Also on the list: Donald Trump.

This email was sent to Andrea Dubé, a Democratic political consultant based in New Orleans. In response, Dubé expressed surprise that Daniels was friendly with Trump. “Donald Trump?” she wrote. “In her cell phone?”

“Yep,” the other consultant replied. “She says one time he made her sit with him for three hours watching ‘shark week.’ Another time he had her spank him with a Forbes magazine.” . . .

The campaign consultant who wrote the email to Dubé tells Mother Jones that Daniels said the spanking came during a series of sexual and romantic encounters with Trump and that it involved a copy of Forbes with Trump on the cover.

A fall 2006 cover of Forbes does feature Trump and two of his children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka. . . .

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -magazine/


Jesus, that's sick. Being spanked with a magazine featuring your own daughter on the cover.

Wait a minute: Daniels was going to run for office? I had forgotten that, though I vaguely remember hearing about it at the time. Where does this lead: Ron Jeremy for President? (Nah, MeToo wouldn't allow it. Rumors are that he had sex with dozens of actresses right on the sets where he was making movies, if you can believe anyone would be so bold.)
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:20 am

Gord wrote:If anyone wants to compare their own dementia test results to Trump's, I found the test online. It's a pdf file: http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site- ... sh_7_1.pdf

The scoring says, "add 1 point if ≤ 12 yr edu". Did Trump manage 12 years of education, or did he get the extra point?

Actually, I find it hard to believe Trump actually took this test. I think he probably lied about it.


I agree with Joe Scarborough. What Doctor Ronny said does not look or sound like medical language. It looks and sounds exactly like White House propaganda dictated by Trump and mauled into nearly-comprehensible English by one of the "grown-ups" in the place.
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:23 am

scrmbldggs wrote:(Also, Melanoma speaks up about that spanking with Forbes + Iwanka business, 'Not true. He prefers to use Time!')


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Whatever, as long as HE is shown on the cover (which is ALWAYS the case with Time, as he has frequently told us).
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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:24 am

The media keep going on about who gets blamed if the federal government shuts down: so many Trump supporters hate the government that I wonder if blame is the right concept.
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:30 am

On Graham's question about what happened to his good pal and golfing buddy, does anybody remember how cynically Trump backed off from the wall shortly after his election? At that time he said, "There will be some fencing." What happened was clearly that Kelly explained how idiotic the idea was, and Trump, whose mind is only a relay station for whatever message came in most recently, went along with that. But then his racist base sent in some big guns (Perdue and Cotton) and boosted him back up on his horse and sent him into the lists against those windmills.
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Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:32 am

What's this? An opportunity to get both Trump and the NRA? I love it! Where can I meet with a Russian to work out the details?
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:33 am

Stage three paranoia. Is it possible the GOP wants to shut down the government tomorrow precisely to kill the Mueller investigation, specifically denying funding to it when it reopens? As I said, Trump is driving me off the rails. Ordinarily I'd call that a batshit insane conspiracy theory. But my mind can't quite reject it.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:36 am

The current Sentate whip list (The Hill) shows 42 voting "no" on the continuing resolution (60 votes needed, I think there are 38 "yes," 9 not clear or undecided, 1 absent for medical reasons); McConnell thinks that this might help ease tensions and turn some votes to "yes."
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:39 am

Upton_O_Goode wrote:Stage three paranoia. Is it possible the GOP wants to shut down the government tomorrow precisely to kill the Mueller investigation, specifically denying funding to it when it reopens? As I said, Trump is driving me off the rails. Ordinarily I'd call that a batshit insane conspiracy theory. But my mind can't quite reject it.

I don't think so. I think they are really as screwed up as appears. Last night on MSNBC, Kacey Hunt did a very nice job narrating the bad craziness that has been Congress and particularly how we arrived here - she could not keep a straight face, and in some shots of those listening to her, Cornell Belcher was literally laughing.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:48 am

I think Edward Tufte could have helped with this - the only wonder is that there aren't more major errors: "Hawaii Officials Cause Confusion Again After Showing 2 Versions Of Missile Alert System"
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:49 am

Shutting down the government is not a good idea, for anyone. But not to worry. Apparently, Donald the Omnipotent can prevent it with one tweet from his mighty thumbs.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:50 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:
Upton_O_Goode wrote:Stage three paranoia. Is it possible the GOP wants to shut down the government tomorrow precisely to kill the Mueller investigation, specifically denying funding to it when it reopens? As I said, Trump is driving me off the rails. Ordinarily I'd call that a batshit insane conspiracy theory. But my mind can't quite reject it.

I don't think so. I think they are really as screwed up as appears. Last night on MSNBC, Kacey Hunt did a very nice job narrating the bad craziness that has been Congress and particularly how we arrived here - she could not keep a straight face, and in some shots of those listening to her, Cornell Belcher was literally laughing.


Yes, that's very plausible. Still, if a shutdown DOES come, there will probably be people who will take advantage of it to cripple Mueller's investigation.
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Upton_O_Goode » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:54 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:The current Sentate whip list (The Hill) shows 42 voting "no" on the continuing resolution (60 votes needed, I think there are 38 "yes," 9 not clear or undecided, 1 absent for medical reasons); McConnell thinks that this might help ease tensions and turn some votes to "yes."


Lemme understand this. The President who was going to be "too busy working to leave the White House" is going to Florida during the most crucial negotiations of the year, so he will certainly NOT be able to have a bunch of senators come in and talk to him in a closed room. And this is a HOPEFUL sign. (Well, of course, it IS hopeful, given Trump's propensity for screwing things up with his babbling. But still, how can even Fox News spin this as a picture of a hard-working President? It is bound to be called by its rightful name everywhere else: dereliction of duty.)
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Re: It's the Donnydämmerung! (new Trump thread)

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:00 pm

Two professors of political science (from the Marxist hot beds of Bosie State U and U of Houston) polled “surveyed current and past members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section on a variety of topics, asking for their assessments of Trump’s first year in office, both overall and on a few key dimensions of contemporary presidential leadership”- and averaged their responses. How did DJT do?

Legislative accomplishments: D-
Foreign policy leadership (most of the survey was complete before “shithole” gate): F
Public communication: D
Embodying institutional norms (my editorializing: this category sucks because it assumes that embodying these norms is best): F
Overall presidential leadership: F

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... 1cf3d4ec23
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