The Universe Wasn't An Accident

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The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Gord » Wed May 04, 2016 4:45 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlLdq1tRcOg#t=11.47475

Huh, I'd forgotten all about PragerU.

The old "the odds are low so Goddidit" argument.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Wed May 18, 2016 11:25 pm

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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu May 19, 2016 4:36 am

Yeah.... "logically" it seems to me the perfectly balanced requirements is a very solid argument (not proof) that there must be many different universes with 99.99% of them dead?

The best scientific explanation I've heard is that the parameters we see are an inherent property of space and time?==but that is totally circular leaving me with my own/first explanation that ....I think I have heard but not with any emphasis or accepted common sense.

There is no god, so that sucks.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby psychiatry is a scam » Fri May 20, 2016 2:20 am

anyone ever think it is impossible to alter any of those 4 values ?
it is what it is - / nothing is ever an accident , right from the start..

and that big bang in the film - shows other galaxies in the background -
that's a Freudian slip / subconscious admission that there wasn't just one big bang but several
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Matthew Ellard » Fri May 20, 2016 4:35 am

Scientific American went over this argument, in detail, years ago.

If you slightly tweek the value of gravity or other factors then, that doesn't mean another sort of life form could not arise.

If you fundamentally change the nature of gravity and other factors, the universe wouldn't be here in the first place.

To waste time wondering about things that didn't happen and don't exist, is just silly

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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri May 20, 2016 8:45 am

:mrgreen:

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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri May 20, 2016 9:11 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:To waste time wondering about things that didn't happen and don't exist, is just silly [/color]

I disagree. Seems to me such questions LEGITIMATELY are an examination of the status quo. Why is the universe what it is? Why is it not something else.

Very basic............... to question. Just silly not to..... or actually: impossible.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri May 20, 2016 9:15 pm

AH--have you read that book?

From the title, it appears to miss the point. Fine Tuning for existence, fine tuning for life, fine tuning of "us"==three seperate questions, perhpas nested ...but still.

If gravity were twice as strong: what would the universe/life/us look like? Wound the universe be anything except a black hole?

The question is sublime in its complexity, unknowables, and consequences.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri May 20, 2016 10:51 pm

Calling the universe an "accident" is gratuitously dismissive.

I prefer to think of it as a lucky break. :pr:
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Austin Harper » Sat May 21, 2016 3:06 am

The universe doesn't look the way it does so we can exist, we exist the way we do because the universe is the way it is.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby OlegTheBatty » Sat May 21, 2016 10:36 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:Calling the universe an "accident" is gratuitously dismissive.

I prefer to think of it as a lucky break. :pr:

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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Sat May 21, 2016 11:35 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Abdul Alhazred wrote:Calling the universe an "accident" is gratuitously dismissive.

I prefer to think of it as a lucky break. :pr:

Good or bad?


For you but not for me? ;)
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby kamiti » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:01 pm

If the universe was an accident, then why did accidents stop happening? Where is that new moon?
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby Abdul Alhazred » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:31 pm

kamiti wrote:If the universe was an accident, then why did accidents stop happening? Where is that new moon?


Cool first post bro. :pr:
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 am

Accidents are still happening all the time. I just stubbed my toe the other day.
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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby scrmbldggs » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:21 am

kamiti wrote:If the universe was an accident, then why did accidents stop happening? Where is that new moon?

:oldman: Next one up: New moon July 4, 2016.




Shirley, that's no accident. :afdb: . :beamup:

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Re: The Universe Wasn't An Accident

Postby ElectricMonk » Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:31 am

They just say the universe was an accident to avoid lawsuits - same reason why in some jurisdiction it's called an act of God.
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