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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Thu May 10, 2018 3:03 pm

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Aztexan: are you saying the Joy of Cooking..........or the Joy of Eating..........or the anticipation of either?

I'm very proud and joyful to see that Johan has finally made sense: we find joy where we decide to find it.

THAT is the base teaching of: existentialism. The joy of which is that THAT meaning is within yourself. NOT placed outside of yourself ...... plot the ramifications.


The greatest "joy" is always to be found in the greatest earthly treasure.

Your "joy" will be very great if they call you and you won the national lottery of 25 million dollars. Much more than you have now in your cooking or the eating.

So obviously mine is even greater than that because I won so much more.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... happiness/

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Thu May 10, 2018 3:10 pm

I think you asked somebody at Disqus the wrong question. My own thread on happiness is research supported and opines that "contemplation" brings the greatest happiness. Winning and Losing. Thats for sporting competitions, not happiness....and what makes you think the same rule would apply universally? One person's god is another persons devil.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Fri May 11, 2018 1:18 pm

Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Sun May 13, 2018 10:08 am

Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.


That someone said you never verified that I am indeed Johan Abrahams on Facebook. You agree?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894158791
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Sun May 13, 2018 10:10 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:I think you asked somebody at Disqus the wrong question. My own thread on happiness is research supported and opines that "contemplation" brings the greatest happiness. Winning and Losing. Thats for sporting competitions, not happiness....and what makes you think the same rule would apply universally? One person's god is another persons devil.


You missed the point. He said you made a mistake in accepting that I am the Johan Abrahams on Facebook.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Sun May 13, 2018 12:40 pm

Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.

That someone said you never verified that I am indeed Johan Abrahams on Facebook. You agree?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894158791

No.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Tue May 15, 2018 7:09 am

Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.

That someone said you never verified that I am indeed Johan Abrahams on Facebook. You agree?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894158791

No.


I assume this no means you did verify that and didn't make the mistake such a person seems to think you did.

With this I totally agree. By visiting my hometown and my Facebook page you were convinced it is evidence enough that I am really the Johan Abrahams I said I am. Such a person on disqus needs to change his opinion.

And it is not you who needs to accept that you were foolish in your investigation of my evidence.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Tue May 15, 2018 2:02 pm

Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.

That someone said you never verified that I am indeed Johan Abrahams on Facebook. You agree?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894158791

No.

I assume this no means you did verify that and didn't make the mistake such a person seems to think you did.

With this I totally agree. By visiting my hometown and my Facebook page you were convinced it is evidence enough that I am really the Johan Abrahams I said I am. Such a person on disqus needs to change his opinion.

And it is not you who needs to accept that you were foolish in your investigation of my evidence.

No.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Thu May 17, 2018 5:30 am

Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:
Gord wrote:
Johan wrote:Somebody in Disqus is saying that you guys missed something big. You actually missed the point on which you can catch me out....

"Someone" on Disqus is an idiot if they suggested there's only one thing we've caught you on.

That someone said you never verified that I am indeed Johan Abrahams on Facebook. You agree?

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894158791

No.

I assume this no means you did verify that and didn't make the mistake such a person seems to think you did.

With this I totally agree. By visiting my hometown and my Facebook page you were convinced it is evidence enough that I am really the Johan Abrahams I said I am. Such a person on disqus needs to change his opinion.

And it is not you who needs to accept that you were foolish in your investigation of my evidence.

No.


Good. I agree. That person is wrong in this instance. When I link here he will see. So he has to accept the evidence. If he has a problem he need to come here and proof that we are lying. If he doesn't he is just fumbling in his own opinion without any evidence.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Thu May 17, 2018 5:41 am

Some good moments I want to share with my Family and thus introducing some more Brothers and Sisters to One Another. There is but One Father and One Mother. Let us Enjoy . . . .. . Family Life.

My first Son and your first Brother.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3890778987


A relocation in Cyberspace.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3890790620

Honouring Halleyscomet

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3894396439

A new age of Enlightenment

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3898474550

Bringing the "upgrade of society" to Internet

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3901270329


A Free Forum

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3901980701


The War is at Hand

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3902821946


Understanding Life on planet earth

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3902829937

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Thu May 17, 2018 8:31 am

Linking to "old comments" are wrong.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3904553062

What does the Family say?

Is that really beneficial or not?

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Halleyscomet » Thu May 17, 2018 2:12 pm

I suspect least some of you remember the "Choose Your Own Adventure" books. You started at the first page and went to different pages in the text based on the decisions you made about the story. Most the endings were rather grim for the protagonist. Johan's posts have devolved into a particularly shabby "Choose your Own Adventure" knock-off. In the books I fondly remember from childhood, there was a plot and events happened on the pages. Johan however is just linking back and fourth to different places he's been humiliated on the Internet. He's no longer even pretending to provide content. He seems to be trying to send people on the most futile scavenger hunt in history.

If "Johan Abrahams" is a character, which I suspect, then his author is entering a slump, where his creativity is at an all-time low.

If Johan Abrahams is a real person, then his neurological decline appears to be accelerating. His ability to focus is further deteriorating. Whatever sanity he had left is being washed away by alcohol abuse.

Either way, we appear to be watching a slow burn remake of "Death of a Salesman," only our Willy Loman thinks he was once a pastor and claims to have a wife and children, most of whom are estranged from him. Like the play, it's hard to tell where the protagonist's fantasies end and reality begins. Was Johan Abrahams ever really married? He claims so many people as his "children" is it possible he never actually fathered any biological children of his own, despite asserting he has?

Even the papers he posts online could easily have been written by him, props to support his delusions and fantasies.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Aztexan » Thu May 17, 2018 2:25 pm

Apple Pie Stuffed Apples

6 large Granny Smith apples
1 tsp ground cinnamon
1/2 cup granulated sugar
1/2 tsp rum extract
1 pastry crust
2 Tbsp unsalted butter, melted

1) Peel and finely dice 2 of the Granny Smith apples. Add to small saucepan with rum extract, cinnamon and sugar. Cook over medium heat, stirring occasionally for about 20-25. Remove from heat and let cool slightly.

2) Preheat oven to 375° F

3) Cut off tops of 4 remaining apples. Core and carefully scoop out the center of the apples and place in 9x9 or 8x8 baking dish. When filling is slightly cool, divide and fill hollowed apples.

4) Using a pizza cutter or sharp knife, cut pie crust into 1/4 inch strips and lay in lattice pattern across tops of apples. Trim the excess pie crust around the edges, then brush tops with melted butter.

5) Place apples in oven and bake at 375° for 25-30 minutes or until tops are golden brown.

6) Remove from heat and let cool for 10-15 minutes before serving. Sprinkle with remaining cinnamon and sugar, if desired.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Thu May 17, 2018 10:44 pm

Halleyscomet wrote:I suspect least some of you remember the "Choose Your Own Adventure" books. You started at the first page and went to different pages in the text based on the decisions you made about the story. Most the endings were rather grim for the protagonist.

Yeah! Those things made me the man I am today!
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Sat May 19, 2018 6:57 am

The "bosses" mess up again.

The problem arise. Which I explained.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3901779980

The boss interfere with a mix.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3903521435

Some wisdom

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3905013392

Which I obviously saw and fall in with.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3905051622


And then the "boss" mentality
Using threats but with no law as backup.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3905011891

The threats
To me but obviously not just to me. And in this case the person totally gone. Looks as if the boss is speaking to himself.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3903774784

as this is part of the inferior ruling systems of the world.

So I answered the boss. With a helping Hand. Giving him some Wisdom.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3905171966

And the boss agreed to just delete the "unnecessary links".

And I tried my best to fall in with the boss.

But I met with some problems towards the "slaves" of the boss.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3905201013

I have to tell the people to go and look for the information. Very unhelpful and foolish. As the link is right in front of me.

And I decided to go with the boss to just go on linking and allow him to choose where and when he is going to delete my links. Then I can help those that he deleted maybe the next day as I have only two links a day now.

And then the "big boss" stepped in.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3906120203

Coming with the law. No spamming allowed. And I have been warned. Warned about what? Surely not spamming. Just about me wasting my time. So I can waste my time if I want to. And everybody else has the choice to follow my link or not. But he is the big boss. Enjoying his position over his slaves. Ruling with threats and fear.

So human. So inferior. As their is another Way. The Way of Wisdom.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3902821946

But over here something totally different. No threats and no fear. Only Love and Truth. But Truth reigns over the lies. And we are Family. We learn to Live Free.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... h/freedom/

And God set the captives free. He has done it from the beginning. But step by step. As we can take it. Using His Children to speak and lead society into Better Life. As Love needs no laws threats and force. And Love never ban. But those that can not walk with Love distance themselves to their own inferior lifestyle.

https://disqus.com/home/channel/religio ... 3902829937

Having nothing but bragging with their minds. Like Halleyscomet.

And having used his name I will have to link him. Not wanting to speak behind his back.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=644382#p644382

He should come out of "enjoying" his mind and thinking he is "superior". He should start using it for the purpose it was given. To serve humanity. As others have other gifts equally important. As we have in Robertson those picking the fruit from the trees. Equally important. And those with the good minds sitting behind the books. Equally important. But according to the lack of Wisdom and Family in human existence those that is picking the fruit on the farms get a fraction of the money.

So foolish. But we see and speak and reveal and the rich and poor situation will be corrected. As God is also into that.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 2555765200
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Sat May 19, 2018 7:11 am

Halleyscomet wrote:I suspect least some of you remember the "Choose Your Own Adventure" books. You started at the first page and went to different pages in the text based on the decisions you made about the story. Most the endings were rather grim for the protagonist. Johan's posts have devolved into a particularly shabby "Choose your Own Adventure" knock-off. In the books I fondly remember from childhood, there was a plot and events happened on the pages. Johan however is just linking back and fourth to different places he's been humiliated on the Internet. He's no longer even pretending to provide content. He seems to be trying to send people on the most futile scavenger hunt in history.

If "Johan Abrahams" is a character, which I suspect, then his author is entering a slump, where his creativity is at an all-time low.

If Johan Abrahams is a real person, then his neurological decline appears to be accelerating. His ability to focus is further deteriorating. Whatever sanity he had left is being washed away by alcohol abuse.

Either way, we appear to be watching a slow burn remake of "Death of a Salesman," only our Willy Loman thinks he was once a pastor and claims to have a wife and children, most of whom are estranged from him. Like the play, it's hard to tell where the protagonist's fantasies end and reality begins. Was Johan Abrahams ever really married? He claims so many people as his "children" is it possible he never actually fathered any biological children of his own, despite asserting he has?

Even the papers he posts online could easily have been written by him, props to support his delusions and fantasies.


Hi my Son.


If you speak about me you should tell me. If not you are a false accuser. They only get into trouble. Peyronies.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=639041#p639039

Like you Abaddon and now also Daniel.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 3626932426

So because of that sin/wrong in society I always link people so that they can defend themselves.

That is why I am linking you. As your name came up.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=644381#p644381

As for what I am doing now and the reasons. You will see it in these links.

Sure I am linking back and forth. There is a lot of evidence already available about me that I do not need to "rewrite". That seems very foolish. We do not need to invent the wheel. It was invented already. We can just built on it.

But what I do think is the problem is that people want me to say more. I need to spent some more time in teaching and less in linking to what I said already. There should be more "interaction". As it is about Relationship in the first place. And linking tend to create less "interaction" as more knowledge and own understanding is expected. So I will remedy that in future.

What caused this problem is the big forum I am into now. And the many channels. One of them with over 300 000 people. All speaking to me. And then there is a mod there closing them when they have not reached conclusion.

So you have a total different conclusion than mine. But we can go into your "opinions" because you provided no facts. I on the other hand provided facts.

This is part of your "delusional" lifestyle.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=637644#p637638

And something else.

I see you deleted your side of the conversations we had on Facebook. Now it appears as if I am speaking to myself. So tell us why you did that?

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Poodle » Sat May 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Just make those posts reappear. An easy job for one such as you.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Mon May 21, 2018 10:42 am

Poodle wrote:Just make those posts reappear. An easy job for one such as you.


Actually you are right. That I will do also. So take a look how it will be done in the Love of God taking into account God's Love and ALmight.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... ve_part_3/

Coming now to God's Way in making them "reappear".

The mods made them "disappear". Meaning they are not honouring the mod in such a way that the mod feel he is exposed.

Meaning his wrong decision or conduct is revealed.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... banned_41/

https://disqus.com/home/channel/ducksde ... 3908594454

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... lenge_him/

Human being has this problem of quickly feeling these spirits of "inferiority". Part and parcel of being human. Obviously God does not have that problem.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 0460218076

As you will see that these people coming here like Daniel and Boris and the way they speak to me is either a revealing of their own inferior attitude.

Daniel even tried to make up one of my Children against Me.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 3626932426

And nothing of these human behaviour is any problem to Me. I have the ability to turn them around and show the wrong behaviour and foolishness that those being controlled by those evil spirits/emotions are exhibiting. That is just the reason why Halleysc omet went and delete his posts to me.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=639761#p639761


Now coming to the mods again. just making those posts appear would be not much of a help to them. They need a lot of Teaching so that they will recognise the destroying spirits/emotions in them stealing their "image" and joy by Embarrassing them in their behaviour and decisions they are wrongly making. They need to see the Truth like Pyrrho did over here. So this will take some time in teaching. I need time to come them slowly and help them not to ban me too quickly before they and others didn't have enough time to see what it is all about.

But of course those in these skeptic forums that know more about the Truth and Wisdom ruling can assist them also in understanding.

So what is God's Way now?

The mods will bring them back out of themselves.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Poodle » Mon May 21, 2018 11:56 am

Tut!!!!!
I disappear for a couple of weeks, come back, and Johan is as big a fruitcake as he was before I went. What's happened to progress these days?

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Tue May 22, 2018 5:33 am

Poodle wrote:Tut!!!!!
I disappear for a couple of weeks, come back, and Johan is as big a fruitcake as he was before I went. What's happened to progress these days?

I am glad you are still enjoying the "big fruitcake".

Just take a look at everything that happened. You will "progress" a lot.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Tue May 22, 2018 4:58 pm

Some "fact checking".

Daniel did some "fact checking". Very interesting.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

I specially like the one on the police operations against me.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 22R5%22%7D

Seems him and Abaddon got 100% different "facts".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... count=2314
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Halleyscomet » Tue May 22, 2018 5:05 pm

Poodle wrote:Tut!!!!!
I disappear for a couple of weeks, come back, and Johan is as big a fruitcake as he was before I went. What's happened to progress these days?


Progress?

In a Johan thread?????

Are you high??

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Halleyscomet » Tue May 22, 2018 5:06 pm

Johan wrote:Some "fact checking".

Daniel did some "fact checking". Very interesting.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

Seems him and Abaddon got 100% different "facts".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... count=2314


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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Halleyscomet » Tue May 22, 2018 5:16 pm

Johan wrote:Some "fact checking".

Daniel did some "fact checking". Very interesting.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

Seems him and Abaddon got 100% different "facts".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... count=2314


I'd like to point out that the two people claming to have researched Johan's past are using different methodologies.

Abaddon used contact information provided by Johan himself.

This "Daniel" on Facebook is claiming that he had people he trusts do independent research.

If Daniel is telling the truth, then Abaddon's research could still have been undertaken in good faith, but be based upon communication with sock puppet accounts created and run by Johan or his friends!

On the flip side, for all we know, this "Daniel" could be a sock puppet created by Johan (or whoever portrays him) to cast doubt on Abaddon's research. Either way, the takeaway lesson for me is to never trust anything Johan writes.

Where does the truth lie? I doubt it matters. Johan has lied and double-talked through almost all the interactions I've ever had with him. I know for a fact he is a liar who cannot be trusted. I am predisposed to trust Abaddon, largely because of my other interactions with him. That said, his research into Johan is tainted by the fact that Johan provided all the contact information Abaddon started with.

This Daniel guy? I don't know him from Adam and I see no reason to trust him any more than I trust Johan.

Personally I think Johan is most likely a troll playing a long game for his or her own amusement, but I'd suspected that for quite some time. Johan's obsessive, even pathetic, need to cross-post every trivial interaction he ever has with anyone to every forum that hasn't banned him speaks volumes about his deteriorating mental state. Troll or not, there's something very, very wrong with his head.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Tue May 22, 2018 5:28 pm

Halleyscomet wrote:
Johan wrote:Some "fact checking".

Daniel did some "fact checking". Very interesting.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

Seems him and Abaddon got 100% different "facts".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... count=2314


Interesting. So tell us more. Where is the opinion and where is the knowledge.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 22R4%22%7D

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Halleyscomet » Tue May 22, 2018 5:52 pm

Johan wrote:Interesting. So tell us more.


No.

I warned you to stop calling me "son" you deluded, offensive dingbat. Despite this you posted this crap:

Johan wrote:Hi my Son.


Clearly, asking you to keep you own word to no longer insult me by using that term was too much. Honoring such a simple request was beyond your capability and integrity.

Now, run along and whine to the Internet that I'm "running away," which appears to be your preferred way of dealing with people scraping the canine excrement of you existence off the souls of their shoes.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Pyrrho » Tue May 22, 2018 8:25 pm

Given Halleyscomet's clear request, and given that said request has been disregarded, I ask Johan to honor that request from this point on.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Wed May 23, 2018 10:50 am

The drugs aren't working.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Fri May 25, 2018 8:01 am

Halleyscomet wrote:
Johan wrote:Interesting. So tell us more.


No.

I warned you to stop calling me "son" you deluded, offensive dingbat. Despite this you posted this crap:

Johan wrote:Hi my Son.


Clearly, asking you to keep you own word to no longer insult me by using that term was too much. Honoring such a simple request was beyond your capability and integrity.


Nope. Wrong again. You seems to forget that I agreed. Not only with you but with many others too. So I am honoring such a simple request. And for many months now I managed. But not having been in here much and being more in an atmosphere where the good of the Mother is seen and Loved has made me used to using it often.

That is who I am. You know it. I live in that capacity in my society. I am a Mother to all. And I just used it here as I am using it everywhere else. To keep judgement away from my words. Without the word Mother my words would be too strong to handle.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 8353089620

Conclusion:

This was just a mistake of habit. And as I said that time I am saying again. Because it seems you forgot. I have no problem in assisting you in your problem.

Thanks for the reminder.



Halleyscomet wrote:Now, run along and whine to the Internet that I'm "running away," which appears to be your preferred way of dealing with people scraping the canine excrement of you existence off the souls of their shoes.


Now run along and find that post that you so quickly forgot about. And then come back again because this is no excuse for the real reason why you ran away and deleted your posts on my Facebook page. Those posts were only a disgrace to you..

As the evidence proof differently.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=639761#p639761

And then you can come back with evidence that I never said that. And some posts that show that from that time up to now I was "dishonoring" you.

Now do not follow the road of Daniel.

I am warning you.

Although I have the idea that you were the one calling him over to my Facebook page as you mentioned some time ago that you want such a "fundi" to "take me on". And then you also warned me against him. But seems you should have warned him against Me.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 8353089620

I do see your "emoticon" there next to one of his posts. Meaning you are standing with him. But you are not really assisting him. And he is really in need of your assistance. But you just ran away. That is not the way "friends" should work. You should have helped him with some correct guidelines against me. Now he is into totally wrong things. And of course speaking against Abaddon. As his "evidence" is contradicting that of Abaddon. And in contradicting the evidence of Abaddon he is also contradicting many of your posts where you sided with Abaddon.

Well the "straw" in this post you are trying to cling on is also now proving to be just a "straw".

Something else also: Why do you call me "dingbat"? As it is part of Wisdom to ask before you judge. You judge before you ask. That is foolishness. I have warned you about this "foolish trait of humans" many times.

Rule with me or be Ruled.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Fri May 25, 2018 8:16 am

Pyrrho wrote:Given Halleyscomet's clear request, and given that said request has been disregarded, I ask Johan to honor that request from this point on.


Oops! You should wait for evidence. Because in not doing that one make foolish mistakes.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&start=560#p645028

In your case it is the habit of the "boss" spirit. But luckily you have been redeemed from that.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=641288#p641288

So I have honoured that request from a few months on already. Not just him but many others as well. But sometimes it just slip my mind who has asked and whom has not asked. As I am sure you for instance has not yet asked that. Maybe you see that it is and action of Love towards everybody. As up to the point of not having a Mother everything is just inferior debating. And from that point onward life becomes Superior.

Family.

The Christians are already "Brothers and Sisters". And thus they have more Superior relationships than the other humans that can only reach the position of "friends".

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... is_family/

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Fri May 25, 2018 8:18 am

Gord wrote:The drugs aren't working.



Interesting. Tell us more.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Fri May 25, 2018 8:42 am

You need more drugs.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Johan » Fri May 25, 2018 9:19 am

Halleyscomet wrote:
Johan wrote:Some "fact checking".

Daniel did some "fact checking". Very interesting.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

Seems him and Abaddon got 100% different "facts".

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... count=2314


I'd like to point out that the two people claming to have researched Johan's past are using different methodologies.

Abaddon used contact information provided by Johan himself.

This "Daniel" on Facebook is claiming that he had people he trusts do independent research.

If Daniel is telling the truth, then Abaddon's research could still have been undertaken in good faith, but be based upon communication with sock puppet accounts created and run by Johan or his friends!

On the flip side, for all we know, this "Daniel" could be a sock puppet created by Johan (or whoever portrays him) to cast doubt on Abaddon's research. Either way, the takeaway lesson for me is to never trust anything Johan writes.

Where does the truth lie? I doubt it matters. Johan has lied and double-talked through almost all the interactions I've ever had with him. I know for a fact he is a liar who cannot be trusted. I am predisposed to trust Abaddon, largely because of my other interactions with him. That said, his research into Johan is tainted by the fact that Johan provided all the contact information Abaddon started with.

This Daniel guy? I don't know him from Adam and I see no reason to trust him any more than I trust Johan.

Personally I think Johan is most likely a troll playing a long game for his or her own amusement, but I'd suspected that for quite some time. Johan's obsessive, even pathetic, need to cross-post every trivial interaction he ever has with anyone to every forum that hasn't banned him speaks volumes about his deteriorating mental state. Troll or not, there's something very, very wrong with his head.


Yep. You answered. Good. So let us go into this dilemma you have because it seems you do not know how to handle it.

Seems to me that if Daniel is real then you will go for him. Because I misled Abaddon.

So I will just link to Daniel. But it will also be good to inform Abaddon. As I can not do it you will have to link this to him seeing that you used his name. Not good to speak about someone and not showing that somebody what you said about him. That is why I am linking. And this reason is not because my "mental state is deteriorating". It is Wisdom.

Coming now to Abaddon. I know he did his research with the correct people. He just got some wrong information from the correct people. You have the idea that Abaddon could be fooled by a "sock puppet accounts". Nope. Not so. But that he has to answer himself.

Coming to Daniel. I know he is for real. But obviously he has to provide the evidence himself to you.

Coming to you. You know nothing

"Personally I think Johan is most likely a troll playing a long game for his or her own amusement, but I'd suspected that for quite some time."

and does not even know how to verify this information.

"Where does the truth lie? I doubt it matters".

From the beginning you trusted Abaddon and never mentioned "sock puppet" accounts to him. So you were fooled from the beginning. But even now do not know if you were fooled or not. And you do not even care. As for Daniel. You put your "emoticon" there next to his posts. Saying you are part of that. Seems very foolish to put your agreeing emoticon next to a sock puppet that I created. But in putting your emoticon there it means you were fooled by my "sock puppet" again.

Conclusion: I am not judging you. I am teaching you. You have no Wisdom. Wisdom is a Characteristic of God. You do not have it because you are not His Child. These Characteristics are Born again Realities.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... orn_again/

I can not judge you for something you do not have. But you are just fooled every time. And now you are writing a foolish suggestion again.

"Either way, the takeaway lesson for me is to never trust anything Johan writes."

As I have the solution. And your suggestion ""Where does the truth lie? I doubt it matters" is also a lie. The Truth always matters. Nobody wants to live in ignorance. We came from that situation long long ago. Even to the sceptics it matters. That is part of their philosophy I am sure. So for the sake of the real sceptics, since you seem to want to stay in ignorance, let us see what happens when we contact those that you mentioned and judged behind their backs.

Luckily you can not delete posts here like you did in Facebook. A very wrong and foolish practice. Trying to delete evidence of your foolish posts. Just evidence that you perceive yourself as foolish while it is only your posts. Rather accept your foolish posts and get Wisdom.

Now back to me:

I am "deteriorating mentally".

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... %22R%22%7D

And I also created a "nice" thread for Daniel to proof himself if he doesn't want to come here. But he previously judged you as cowards. So let us see if he can face you or is he the coward? Seems nobody here can face him. Just the "emoticon" over there. But judgement over here.

https://web.facebook.com/johan.abrahams ... 7696416019

But actually this is not "backbiting" but either Wisdom which will proof Himself in providing the evidence that you need. Daniel calls it "dogtailing". Everyone actually ignorant of the Wisdom of God.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Pyrrho » Fri May 25, 2018 2:36 pm

Johan wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:Given Halleyscomet's clear request, and given that said request has been disregarded, I ask Johan to honor that request from this point on.


Oops! You should wait for evidence. Because in not doing that one make foolish mistakes.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&start=560#p645028

In your case it is the habit of the "boss" spirit. But luckily you have been redeemed from that.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=29055&p=641288#p641288

So I have honoured that request from a few months on already. Not just him but many others as well. But sometimes it just slip my mind who has asked and whom has not asked. As I am sure you for instance has not yet asked that. Maybe you see that it is and action of Love towards everybody. As up to the point of not having a Mother everything is just inferior debating. And from that point onward life becomes Superior.

Family.

The Christians are already "Brothers and Sisters". And thus they have more Superior relationships than the other humans that can only reach the position of "friends".

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/chan ... is_family/

I'm not the one who is making a mistake, here.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri May 25, 2018 8:20 pm

I think this is interesting: two ((3-4-5-??) "wrongs" showing "what is right."

In my own view...calling someone "son" is not inherently vulgar or a slur or anything else. Just an affectation of the speaker. For anyone to get upset over this is rather juvenile. For Pyyrho to step in and suggest it is only polite and should be honored is one way to go. The other way would be to say the one who gets upset should "man up" and take the first few baby steps in paying attention to what is important.

However, once the suggestion is made, the terrain is changed. Now....only an immature person will continue such activity. Wah, wah, wha.....I want to do what I want to do.....and (my favorite): you aren't the boss of me. More failure on the part of the person getting upset wanting "the World" to change so their own emotional comfort zone can be kept going======>RATHER THAN: learning how to go it alone on your own. aka: grow up. ((aka: paying attention to and responding to what is more important.))

Ha, ha. Oh what a terrible injustice when I don't get what I want: applies to not being called names, or being told to stop it. Two nice very similar constructs.

How to learn to grow as a person if you can't overcome the LEAST of adversities??????????

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Sat May 26, 2018 4:30 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:In my own view...calling someone "son" is not inherently vulgar or a slur or anything else. Just an affectation of the speaker.

It depends on the context. In this case, Johan is making a claim of "motherhood" over the people he calls "son". I for one would consider that inherently vulgar. Only my mother gets to make that claim about me.
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat May 26, 2018 6:50 pm

Gord, thanks: I suppose. This goes back to my standard rule: no reason to get upset over something that ain't true.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Gord » Sun May 27, 2018 5:55 am

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Re: Total Freedom

Postby Poodle » Sun May 27, 2018 8:13 am

Interesting - but his had risen much more than the preserved version. But then he knows about yeast and uses the appropriate strain. I suspect it's much more likely that dough was simply left exposed for a few hours, by which time any old yeast passing by would have settled on it and multiplied.

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Re: Total Freedom

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sun May 27, 2018 2:13 pm

BREAD: water, flour, yeast. The same recipe that has ALWAYS been used. I suppose you can call it 2000 year old bread if you want to, but its just bread. The yeast came from a prepared starter as when making sour dough...so, yes, it was a proven strain for hopefully mostly TASTE, and then rise/crumb formation. Totally NOTHING interesting/new in that video. I would have added a pinch of salt .....about the only thing I add salt to.
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