The Solution To The Mystery

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The Solution To The Mystery

Postby TazAnastazio » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:21 am

Disclaimer : These are my OWN theories. Some are right, some are wrong, for others it is still unknown or debatable. As time goes by I'll be researching the subject and make the necessary "purging". This is not a scientific writing based on research ! This is the work of a PHILOSOPHER ! I find it challenging to conceive an idea, before I read it somewhere else. PUTTING MY NAME ON AN IDEA, BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE CONCEIVES IT AND PROVES IT RIGHT, that would be a bonus ! There is risk to that as is evident from some colorful responses I sometimes get from scientific afficionados and virtuosos ! But somehow like this, PHILOSOPHERS grasped with their imaginations GREAT IDEAS, upon which scientists built, and others learned ! FEEL FREE TO CONTRIBUTE !


THE INFINITE, IN SEARCH OF THE ULTIMATE TRUTH !

"He contemplated the grandeur, and the presence of God; the eternity of the future, that strange mystery; the eternity of the past, a stranger mystery; all the infinities hidden deep in every direction; and, without trying to comprehend the incomprehensible, he saw it. He did not study God; he was dazzled by Him. He reflected upon the magnificent union of atoms, which give visible forms to Nature, revealing forces by recognizing them, creating individualities in unity, proportions in extension,the innumerable in the infinite, and through light producing beauty. These unions are forming and dissolving continually; from which come life and death." - Victor Hugo; Les Miserables.

The prevalent theory on Cosmology is the latest one by Stephen Hawking. According to this theory
time started to count for our Universe ever since the Big Bang; the Universe is expanding as is evident from the fact that no matter which direction we look from earth, galaxies are getting further and further away. Depending how fast things move in a given part of space, its given time.

In my opinion regarding Hawking's theory of the Universe, time is still a matter of perception. It exists as far as measuring movement in that given space in contrast to another, and also measuring effect/change to an object or existence given the exposure to space / movement / conditions, and the particular time it took for said object or existence to undergo said exposure to the given space / movement / conditions. Still no physical time exists, let alone the possibility for time-travel. In addition, gravity would affect the speed of light differently in a given space or universe compared to another space or universe.

According to Hawking the Universe is not static, it expands as it is evident from the aforementioned movement of galaxies seen from the earth. If the Universe was infinite and static, "every line of sight would end on the surface of a star and the sky would be illuminated even at night... unless the stars from far away had switched off ... still the absorbing (hypothetical) matter would eventually heat up and light up at some point...". Hawking also warned against other "pitfalls" of thinking about an infinite universe; there would be no center for the stars to fall on each other (true)...it is more correct to think of it from a finite perspective of a few (trillion) stars and add more stars afterwards." It is my speculation that there could be infinite centers of greater gravity that attract the stars to that center and less or counterbalancing gravity from neighboring such clusters ... and a Big Bang type of force which surpasses gravity in some cases like in our own Universe ... If rotating galaxies around a black hole, why not rotating Universes around a bigger gravitational center point ?

Back to our own Universe... Can it expand forever or would the Big Bang force eventually give in to gravitational forces between the galaxies, along with gravitational forces from other Universes. Netwon in his 1st law did state : " an object in space..." But we are talking about space beyond the observable, and an Infinite beyond the imaginable. Can the universe really expand forever ! What if it does eventually stop ? Then time will stop for our Universe, and star gravity would prevail and our Universe will go back in time and space, and stars will collapse on each other to an Infinite dense singularity; or dense to a point that the compacting forces of further densing will cause a new Big Bang. Then the cycle will be repeated INFINITELY, because there is No Beginning and No End to Eternity; and there is no other way for the Finite, but either a circle of events, or a Beginning and an End of a segment. What if the Galaxies do eventually approach the Galaxies of other universes and all collapse on each other creating other singularities ? Is there an end to the "Ifs", "Buts" and theories ?! Some of my own hypothesis and suppositions follow to reflect if not possibilities for our own universe, then perhaps other space within the Infinite.

If we where to contemplate what's between "1" and a second "1" that makes a "2", we would realize that what we tbought of as a segment is an infinity in itself. How about "π" ? Let's use the scientific method : What is around us ? The environment, molecules, protons neutrons etc... and beyond as far as we can see the horizon, and beyond the stars! Now what's within the neutrons, protons, neucleus ? Other particles. And within them? How about beyond the universe? Following still the " scientific method ", we have already recognized "paterns" now we HAVE to extend them beyond the macrocosm and within the microcosm to Infinity! Why ? Because according to math there is an Infinity between 1 and 2 ( replicated pattern extending to Infinity ) and then there is the (-) Infinity ( infinite microcosm ) and the (+) Infinity ( infinite macrocosm ). Also considering the law of thermodynamics we deduce that energy because it cannot be created or destroyed, can neither be anything but INFINITE from EVERY perspective - microcosm, macrocosm, existence, magnitude etc. - and yes so must be Matter and Intelligence - reasonable step by step deduction we arrived to due to recognizable patterns from our immidiate environment which following the example of units in math, we replicated infinitely !

The Infinite has no shape nor size, no beginning nor end, no limits and no gaps. "Nothing", "time" and "distance" do not exist for the Infinite, as it encompasses every unit, every stage, every existence and every concept. When humanity refers to the idea of "God", what other concept should have such characteristics attributed to, by humanity, other than the Infinite? Any other traditional god/superior intelligence/existence/being/concept would evolve from the Infinite and would be finite.

Every form of existence, every intelligence, energy and matter, form/evolve from the Infinite and de-form/dissolve into the Infinite. Every existence has a purpose. The ultimate purpose of intelligent existence is to bring about positivity to counterbalance negativity, both of which are emerging properties/outcomes of actions and reactions that bring forth existence. This is what existing is, serve a purpose to administer things within our environment within the Infinite. The purpose of life is knowledge. Knowledge is passed to the future generations; knowledge and the right actions prove us able for further function within the Infinite and to serve a further purpose within the Infinite, till we dissolve/de-form back into it.

Negativity springs from selfishness which is the result of self-interest. Self-interest is necessary for every existence to exist. Because an intelligent existence recognizes the limits in its environment, and the limits of its own existence, due to self-interest, said existence may become selfish. Without self interest we would not care to exist, yet because we realize that we will only exist for a limited time, wanting to make the best of our existence, we become selfish and behave negatively to others. Negativity and positivity are the result of the interaction of the various forms of existence among themselves and with their environment within the Infinite; an example is humans interacting with gravity. Without gravity we would not be able to stay on earth and survive, and because of gravity, when we fall we hurt ourselves and even die.

Infinite minute, perhaps spherical, particles (no other shape would provide for better combinations to form matter, and no other shape of matter would provide for better fluidity within the infinite than the spherical ) bring about all physical phenomena within the Infinite, such as matter, energy and intelligence; along with gravity, light and sound.

If "nothing" did exist, if even infinitely minute space of nothing truly existed, there would be no Infinite since there would be limits; which means that the only seemingly infinite, had beginnings and endings. Yet existence, or particles and objects forming everything within the Infinite cannot form/evolve out of nothing. Therefore nothing cannot exist at all, and definitely cannot extend beyond the Infinite, for the Infinite to exist, and for everything else to exist within the Infinite. Yet, if "nothing" does not exists, what then explains space for fluidity within the Infinite? Could there be an Infinite Nothing within an Infinite Everything, how could that be possible when the existence of the one, would nullify the existence of the other ? Surely there always has to be something for something else to form from, and there always has to be something for something else to be de - formed ( destroyed, disposed of ) into.

Could it be perhaps that we have an Infinite "antimatter" evolving to an "Infinite" matter and vice versa, infinitely ? We could suppose that Infinite Universes of anti-matter, break apart to infinite minute particles of antimatter and switch/evolve/form in turn to infinite particles of matter, which in turn form infinite Universes of matter. In turn infinite Universes of matter break apart to infinite minute particles of matter and switch to infinite minute particles of antimatter which in turn form infinite Universes of antimatter, infinitely.

Distance does not exist for the Infinite because even if an object travels thousands of light years in space, from the perspective of the Infinite, at the same time it has not moved at all, it moved thousands of light years, and it is also moving infinitely. The infinite is ever reaching and ever extending from every perspective both outwards the macrocosm and inwards the microcosm. The Infinite is within every matter, energy and intelligence, and every matter, energy and intelligence is formed from within the Infinite and de-formed into the Infinite. There are no absolute sizes within the infinite, nothing is absolutely large or absolutely small. An absolute zero temperature for example denotes a situation in which all movement ceases, yet movement never ceases, it could decelerate infinitely within the infinite microcosm, and accelerate infinitely within the infinite macrocosm ( infinite large in size clusters of universes ).

Time does not exist for the infinite. Time is simply a measurement of movement in reference to other movement or change. Change happens due to the interaction of particles or objects and its rate and effect depend on the cause and influencing factors and the object undergoing it. Change is relative to circumstance, and its effect ( positive or negative, quick or slow ) is a matter of perception of a hypothetical observer and the object going through said change ( what we think of as time, passes quickly when we are busy, absorbed in thought, are entertained; yet seems to stall in traffic, when we are bored, working through a drudging task etc. ).

Infinite universes and clusters of infinite universes are formed and deformed infinitely with infinite possibilities. There is probably nothing flat in the infinite; everything within the Infinite is made of particles ( quite possibly spherical in shape for fluidity of movement and formation ) with smaller particles forming between the spaces the larger particles form. If an object becomes small enough, it would most likely find itself in a three dimensional space. Therefore there may not be a two dimensional space, and if time does not actually exist, there is no forth dimension, or any other dimensions.

Even if we suppose that in the vastness of the Infinite where everything is possible, an exact replica of our own universe existed, we would have to assume that in that universe every chain reaction from its beginning to the given point of comparison to our own, was exactly the same for every factor, even if seemingly insignificant, that would otherwise bring forth a difference between the two universes. But each of the two universes would have also been affected by infinite chains of actions and reactions that led to their formation, which would also have to be the same in order for the two universes to be exactly the same and so on. Continuing that process of reasoning we would deduce that to have an exact replica universe we would have to have such a phenomenon of similarity to reach an INFINITE degree. That would mean replicated infinities! Therefore two exactly the same universes where a person could find the exact replica of himself, and travel in that universes time frame, are an impossibility. Even if we allow for the concept of exact replicated infinities in order to consider the possibilities of this version of time-travel, said person would have to be able to find the exact replica of his planet within the exact replica of his universe, among the infinite choices within the infinite, and travel to the exact point in time of his choice, since the formation of said universe, in order to travel from that point in time of that universe, to a specific time in the past or the future. That would be the only way to travel in time and as already stated, this version of time-travel is also non - existent (there cannot be replicated infinities - let alone for every individual existence).

The only way perhaps that dimensional time could exist, let alone time-travel being possible, would be if we would consider again infinite possible futures within infinite EXACTLY THE SAME UNIVERSES ( which universes would have to have infinite minute differences to cover the changes occurring by the different course of action an individual existence would have taken and the infinitely spanning effect of those actions to other existences and circumstances ) through which infinite futures, unbeknownst to ourselves and the people of our environment, we were passing to (from one in a given infinite fraction of a moment, to another one out of the infinite alternatives). That would be the only way to have dimensional time, with dimensional past and present, and a dimensional future (one out of the infinite available PER INDIVIDUAL EXISTENCE ). Which one preexisting / predetermined future would be chosen out of the infinite choices would depend to minute details of our daily life. But as aforementioned, such exact replica universes are an impossibility because such a phenomenon would also imply replicated infinities ( with only infinite minute differences ; what would the point of such infinite futures be, other than to gratify the fans of twisted sci-fi fiction ? ).

Even if we suppose for the sake of the argument that time-travel was possible, in order to travel to the past by means of actual time travel, a person would have to have the means to roll back all the chains of actions and reactions that lead to his / her present point in time. Such a regression would in turn change the person's environment and world to an infinite perhaps effect; which as a result would bring future, and perhaps infinite, changed actions and reactions; which would in turn bring change of infinite proportions. The result of said person's cells regressing would have a chain of actions and reactions to particles forming the subatomic particles that comprise them. Every action and every act, such as metabolic and other bodily functions would have to be regressed! For said person to travel to the future, which could not possibly be predetermined / preexisting, if supposedly there is such thing as dimensional time, he or she would have to choose from infinite choices as mentioned earlier. If such a one predetermined /preexisting future existed for an existence, then there would be no point for that existence, or its purpose would be limited (animals in a farm). If the future of our world was predetermined, then humanity could not be held accountable for its actions. There would be no point for existence, since there would be no living, experiencing, and learning from it. The future of every existence within the infinite could not be predetermined, if that was the case the infinite would be limited, with other words there would be no infinite since every existence in it would be like machinery. Finally, if we believed that our future was predetermined/preexisting, then while we would and should still seclude and punish criminals and the tyrants of history, could we still also hold them ethically accountable ( same argument could be made of course for the criminals' and tyrants' mental status and genetic make up, is there a very fine line between mental status and evil nature? ).

The idea that the future already exists, that everything is predetermined and therefore no reason for anyone to work towards anything since the outcome has already taken place in the future or some version of a predetermined future is not acceptable. At least with astrology there is always the explanation that " forces / spirits " would make things take place as foretold to lure you in the occult. Some of this time travel multidimensional notions don't seem to be further from science fiction and even occultism.

The idea of time travel sprang from the notion that time would slow down when travelling at the speed of light, and even regress when travelling faster. This theory could never be validated because such speeds are impossible to reach. Furthermore a craft travelling at such speeds would have to follow a means of navigation other than light since the image of objects in the immediate front of the craft, would reach the craft at double the speed of light ( both light and craft traveling at the same speed ) and objects perpendicular to the sides and back of the craft would be invisible ( craft is always ahead of the image generated ) . The pilots would not be able to react since what would be visible to them would be a mixed stream of color and light jetting on them from their front sides and through the immediate front, because both them and the light travel at the same speed ( for one it would seem to them that they would crash on objects earlier than they actually would - also, for the sake of the point, we suppose they survived the trip, and we also exclude friction that would generate an enormous amount of heat and turn the craft alight before it reached a fraction of the light-speed, also we neglect the relativity concept that the mass of the aircraft would reach infinite levels ). Since objects travelling at the speed of light are impossible to observe, since their original position would be visible after they had already been long gone, experiments with them are impossible to be conducted even in our imagination. Without even a reasonable deduction based on logical steps we could consider other possibilities and even doubt the existence of dimensional time, a road onto which one can travel back and forth. Additionally, the detrimental effect to the objects travelling at the speed of light, would give false perception in regards to their shape, and deem such imagined experiments non-conductible even in our imagination. An experiment that cannot be conducted even in our imagination, has no grounds and its theoretical outcomes are invalid, non existing or at least questionable.

Einstein, and those who sold books and made movies based on his "time-travel" theories tapped in humanity's characteristic of remorse and regret. Who would not want to go back in time and change things after they had acquired precious knowledge ? Surely it would be nice if we could live long enough and be young enough to live, learn and live better in our longer futures.

Though at times referring to infinite levels and values, Einstein sometimes seems to not fully consider concepts from the perspective of the infinite and infinity; or to apply the idea of the infinite and infinity to EVERY concept. Einstein came up with an equation which while scientists believe it holds its ground to things we can actually perceive and observe ( or we think we do ) it does not perhaps apply to the reality of the Infinite ! If the maximum heat we can theoretically get would be produced by running an almost infinitely large object by the speed of the fastest thing we are able to observe ( light ), then that would be the maximum temperature ( Energy ) theoretically achievable, which would be a finite amount and not infinite, since it is depended upon a finite value, the constant speed of light; which leads to the paradox that the whole amount of energy within the Infinite, is a finite unit ! What is the paradox with this, is that it contradicts the law of thermodynamics dictating that energy cannot be created or destroyed. If something is finite IT HAS TO BE CREATED AND BE ABLE TO BE DESTROYED, otherwise IT CAN BE NOTHING BUT INFINITE !

If we consider an object approaching a wall, would it eventually reach or NEVER reach the wall? How about BOTH at the SAME time! When we consider things from the perspective of an object of finite size, sure it will eventually reach the wall... that "0" point or in Einstein's terms the fastest speed possibly achievable, the speed of light ( before time and space get SUPPOSEDLY all jumbled up, relativity etc. ), but wait... What if the object becomes small enough to pass between the particles that comprise the wall ? Now consider this, what if as it passes it continues to become ever so small, INFINITELY small, at what point does it exactly pass through or even reach the wall ? NEVER !

The aforementioned considerations would lead to the six fundamental principles of the Infinite from which most concepts could be explained:

1) There is no such thing as absolute size, absolute large and absolute small.

2) Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it is formed from matter and it forms matter, and it takes intelligence to do so. The Infinite is the Infinite Intelligence, Energy and Matter.

3) Where there is action there is a reaction; everything within the Infinite is the result of the cause and effect phenomenon. The Infinite is the reason for all existence, objects and phenomena.

4) Time may not exist, time could simply be a means to measure movement in reference to other movement - how many turns a planet made around a star, while that star was rotating once around its galaxy.

5) If an object becomes small enough it will most likely find itself in a "THREE DIMENSIONAL SPACE". If physical / dimensional time does not exist, a fourth dimension woul not exist either. There would be no more dimensions than three.

6) Math is a perception ( a dimension if you like ) because our mathematical calculations depend on what amount we assign to a UNIT (stage). Math is the assigned amount of a unit (1), it's absence (0) and the Infinite ( never absolute unit or absolute absence of it ).

If an object traveled with the speed of light its original position would be invisible ( meaning we would see the object in its original position after the object had been long gone already, because it would take the same speed for light to reach it, and therefore light would not reach it in time ), so Einstein's relativity examples would not hold ( the objects that seem to collide to the perception of one observer while they overpass each other according to the perception of another observer ). Also if the speed of light cannot be achieved, especially when considering what would happen to the mass (spacecraft) accelerating hypothetically towards even a fraction of the speed of light, maybe the mentioning of time-travel would be more appropriate for the science fiction books. The fascination around time-travel, is good for sales.

As light is bent by gravitational forces and is reflected upon objects, we will never be able to visit inhabited planets or will be visited by organic species from other planets unless we ( or they ) find other means of navigating through space other than light, why ? Light-speed travelers would need to be able to perceive what lies ahead in time to avoid collisions; They would need a "Somedar" ( for a lack of a better word meaning a machinery which would be using other means to function than rays - many, many times faster than light ) to tell the hypothetical light-speed travelers what led ahead; and even then their brains would never be able to react to such speeds. Perhaps artificial intelligence thinking much faster than the speed of light, to bring the "pulp" that would remain from the bodies of the travelers somewhere - and NO time would not be affected ( if time does actually exist ) and the travelers would not travel in it; neither the effect of their brains bouncing in their skulls would change, or their cells and the very molecules that comprise them. Do I need to get into the type of steering and break system they would need ... so no living breathing species could have ever possibly reached, or will ever possibly reach earth, unless they were or will be able to navigate by other means than following the path of light (shortcuts of the universe) or unless they are other forms of energy + intelligence + matter combination (for one they shouldn't have to breath, drink, eat move their bowels etc. - no time to sleep from all that bouncing and the noise and heat from all that friction etc. etc.

Currents of particles could be the cause of movement of objects in space, and the cause of whirlpools ( wormholes ). Magnetic fields ( gravity ) pull space forming particles, pulling as a consequence said space; and bend light, the only means of navigation in space ( following the bowed trajectory of light as opposed to following the straight line which would connect the edges of the hypothetical bow between two points of the bowed trajectory of light ).

No "Imagination is..." NOT "better than knowledge". Imagination is the means to collect the "ore" ( conceive the idea ), yet REASON, LOGICAL DEDUCTION, are the means to distill the "GOLD", which is knowledge.

Imagine if light didn't truly travel as believed! Imagine if it was rather a ripple particle reaction our brains understand as "light"; like water waves having a ripple reaction, the impact of which we feel or see on objects; there is movement of water, but it is not the first molecules in line which reach us, but the last ones . When light ( or sound ) occurs ( electron jump in the case of light ), in most cases it can be observed from every direction. Could that mean that light doesn't actually travel ? Could it be that the electron jumps which generate photons, cause a ripple effect from particle to particle, a wave the end of which affects our brains in a way we understand as " light? " Maybe the size of particles determines the size of what we understand as the wavelengths. It would be like if people would stand in line in every direction and the person in the middle taps the next ( well in this example he/she would have to tap the people around him/her one at a time, but with light is different; just for the sake of the analogy without much nitpicking), and the people at the end feel the tap of the last person next to them, the first person in the center that started the "tap effect" didn't touch them ! With colored surfaces, it could be that the involved particles absorb the facets of the tap of the different colors in the spectrum, allowing a different kind of tap to continue, one that has only the same color effect with the one of the surface. How long it would take from the particle jumps that occurred to create the photons (or rather the ripple / tap effect) to the effect that those particle jumps ( creation of photons ) would have on our brains, times the distance between our eyes and the particle jumps, we could be interpreting as light-speed. This hypothesis could explain why it takes light speed for a photon to have its effect on our brains and while though it can be observed it has no mass let alone acquiring infinite mass. This could also explain how it is that light having no mass is affected by gravitational forces, is pulled by a black hole ( not the photons themselves but the particles of space involved in the light ripple / tap effect ). Photons are traveling as scientists say at light speed. As scientists also say, photons have no mass, they don't acquire infinite mass as they "travel" light speed! Imagine the world bombarded by photons of infinite mass, there would not be a world, but then there would not be light in the first place. Light travels in most cases in all directions, but even on a single direction traveling for 13 Billion years ( oldest light observable ) would take a lot of energy lost, where has light acquired all that energy from ?

If light did not actually travel, we would have the TIME it took for the effect, but no SPACE (no travel). Take light, as we think we know it, out of the equation, and the MAGICAL / ALLURING idea of relativity is falling apart ! Why do we give so much weight to light? Sure without light we would not be able to observe anything. Yet isn't every observable phenomenon in the universe depended upon gravity and the bonding forces of matter ? Isn't movement by objects and planets in space the result of gravity, and movement by living species and machines a result of action opposing gravity ? Isn't the movement of electron from a higher level of energy to a lower that produces light ? Isn't energy, in the form of light required for an electron to jump from a lower to higher level of energy. And when the electron moves to the particular energy level doesn't it adjust its wavelength to the wavelength of the orbit it moved to ? Aren't the various bonding forces involved in these movements, energy gaining or releasing and the necessity for wavelength adjustments? Finally isn't the continues breaking and remaking of bonds of atoms/molecules that releases heat (energy) ? Every phenomenon in the universe, such as energy, is the result of gravity and the bonding forces of matter. Isn't it perhaps gravity as aforementioned that causes infinite universes to compact to infinite singularities, or to a point of tolerance beyond which new Big Bangs would occur, repeating the cycle between singularities and "Big Bangs" infinitely ?

"Nothing", "Everything", "Time", "Space", "Distance", "Dimensions, "Beginning", "End", "Energy", "Mass", "Intelligence",
"Objects", "Particles" are simply concepts conceived to describe what we THINK we see and understand within the INFINITE.

Matter would not move without energy and energy could not be directed without intelligence. The Infinite Intelligence Energy and Matter. No other concept except the Infinite, could be attributed the characteristics humanity has attributed to the idea of "God."

And "the fool said there is no God" :

Is it really foolish to say there is no God ? What is God other than the Infinite ?! Why would it matter for the Infinite, whether you believe in it or not? Does the Infinite truly exist? Doesn't to exist mean to have a beginning and an end; to be finite ? Doesn't the infinite include all existence and phenomena, and isn't it the reason for all existence and phenomena ? What is the Infinite ? What is God ? Does it have a conscious, a "Me" as Victor Hugo put it, when he stated in "Les Miserables" : " The infinite exists. It is there. If the infinite had no me, the me would be its limit; it would not be the infinite; in other words, it would not be. But it is. Then it has a me. This me of the infinite is God."

Well it matters for humanity. Imagine 5 billion something people ( young children excluded ), believing that this is all there is to it. That because of their primordial necessity for existence, that is self interest, and recognizing their finalism, they had to blindly and whole heartedly obey the emerging property of self-interest, selfishness; and achieve self satisfaction AT ALL COSTS ! Welcome to the APOCALYPSE ! It is a finite world after all, and it has to have some rules; conscience and consequences for those who choose or contemplate not to play by them. Draw your own conclusions. The Infinite is all inclusive, and all derives from it and all is directed to it, in an eternal, endless, infinite cycle of events.

Sure we cannot have perfection, ONLY THE INFINITE IS PERFECT; PERFECTLY INFINITE FROM EVER PERSPECTIVE ! But we can counterbalance negativity with positivity ! Sure ALL religions have major flaws, some more than others; some are evil and disastrous to society no doubt whatsoever ! But completely and utterly without any faith whatsoever (assuming that that was possible) we would have a MAD-MAX movie, type of chaos on Earth ! What self-destructive force (or otherwise), what insanity, what downright FOOLISHNESS would advocate for that... That is why nature gave humanity consciousness, along with thought. And IT TOOK AN INIFINITE INTELLIGENCE TO DESIGN IT. It didn't just pop up on its own; that too was an emerging property, an outcome of evolution. But who or what started evolution and intervened in it ? Same phenomenon that started and intervened in everything else, the Infinite phenomenon, God.

One thing is absolutely certain. The Infinite is the reason for all existence and all phenomena within the Infinite.

This theory / philosophy is called Infinitism; the theory / philosophy of the Infinite.
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These concepts are certainly true :
The Infinite is the reason for all existence and phenomena; while the future does not exist, it is the most precious thing of all ! While the ultimate positivity achievable would be the ideal, between negative choices, the best is the less negative one ! Humanity should always strive to counterbalance the emerging property of existence, negativity; with positivity.

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TazAnastazio wrote:The Infinite has no shape nor size, no beginning nor end, no limits, no gaps; "nothing" and "time" do not exist for the Infinite, as it encompasses every stage and every existence. The Infinite is God. Every form of existence, every intelligence, energy and matter, form from the Infinite and disolve into the Infinite. Every existence has a purpose. The ultimate purpose of every existence is positivity. The purpose of life is knowledge. Knowledge is passed to the future generations; knowledge and the right actions prove us able for further function within the Infinite till we disolve back into it. Negativity springs from selfishness which is the result of the necessary self interest of every existence which recognizes it's limitted nature. Negativity is the result of the interaction of the various forms of existence within the Infinite, and of the particles and objects within it, which bring about all physical phenomena within the Infinite, such as matter, energy and intelligence, along with gravity, light and sound.

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"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
"Imagine an ennobling of what could be" -- the New Age BS Generator site
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Postby TazAnastazio » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:58 pm

Thanks Gord, topic had to be approved before it could be edited.
These concepts are certainly true :
The Infinite is the reason for all existence and phenomena; while the future does not exist, it is the most precious thing of all ! While the ultimate positivity achievable would be the ideal, between negative choices, the best is the less negative one ! Humanity should always strive to counterbalance the emerging property of existence, negativity; with positivity.

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo! :nuts:
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:26 pm

TazAnastazio wrote:The Infinite has no shape nor size, no beginning nor end, no limits, no gaps; "nothing", "time" and "distance" do not exist for the Infinite, as it encompasses every stage and every existence. The Infinite is God.
For some inconceivable reason, you have decided to post this religious gibberish on a science based skeptic forum.

I suggest you relocate to the David Icke Forum where you will have an audience. You will simply be attacked here.

https://forum.davidicke.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Nikki Nyx » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:53 pm

"...this forum is dedicated to the promotion of science and critical thinking..."

Not religion.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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TazAnastazio wrote:Thanks Gord, topic had to be approved before it could be edited.

Yooooou betcha!
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Geeeeez, where do they escape from?????????

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Phoenix76 wrote:Geeeeez, where do they escape from?????????

Pyrrho grows them in the forum sub-basements. Started off innocently when he got a job providing stunt crews for "C.H.U.D. IV", but some of them escaped and went to seminary school. Those escapees were instantly pegged at professor material and it just went on from there.
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Postby OlegTheBatty » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:29 pm

They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:15 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.

I thought Christians were giving up their asshats? :mrgreen:
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Nikki Nyx wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.

I thought Christians were giving up their asshats? :mrgreen:

They mitre been :beee:
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby scrmbldggs » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:17 pm

OlegTheBatty wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.

I thought Christians were giving up their asshats? :mrgreen:

They mitre been :beee:

And saving a tonsure will make them happy.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Nikki Nyx » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:55 pm

scrmbldggs wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.

I thought Christians were giving up their asshats? :mrgreen:

They mitre been :beee:

And saving a tonsure will make them happy.

Alb bet we could make a habit of this.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby TazAnastazio » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:35 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
TazAnastazio wrote:The Infinite has no shape nor size, no beginning nor end, no limits, no gaps; "nothing", "time" and "distance" do not exist for the Infinite, as it encompasses every stage and every existence. The Infinite is God.
For some inconceivable reason, you have decided to post this religious gibberish on a science based skeptic forum.I suggest you relocate to the David Icke Forum where you will have an audience. You will simply be attacked here.
https://forum.davidicke.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3


And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat? 'sides I was attacked in this forum before, what did that lead to, man of "MATHS" ?
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The Infinite is the reason for all existence and phenomena; while the future does not exist, it is the most precious thing of all ! While the ultimate positivity achievable would be the ideal, between negative choices, the best is the less negative one ! Humanity should always strive to counterbalance the emerging property of existence, negativity; with positivity.

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby TazAnastazio » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:44 am

[[glow=red][shadow=blue][shadow=blue]quote="Nikki Nyx"]"...this forum is dedicated to the promotion of science and critical thinking..."

Not religion.[/quote
[/shadow]]
[/[/shadow]glow]

...Thanks Nikki, for a moment there I thought I was posting in the subject : " BELIEF, NONBELIEF, AND PHILOSOPHY " Buh, "internet." My post was probably also posted in the "SCIENCE AND CRITICAL THINKING..." forum as well; your response likewise.
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The Infinite is the reason for all existence and phenomena; while the future does not exist, it is the most precious thing of all ! While the ultimate positivity achievable would be the ideal, between negative choices, the best is the less negative one ! Humanity should always strive to counterbalance the emerging property of existence, negativity; with positivity.

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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Phoenix76 wrote:Geeeeez, where do they escape from?????????


Come on now pard, shouldn't YOU know? The Deep Thinkers Land.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Phoenix76 wrote:Geeeeez, where do they escape from?????????

Pyrrho grows them in the forum sub-basements. Started off innocently when he got a job providing stunt crews for "C.H.U.D. IV", but some of them escaped and went to seminary school. Those escapees were instantly pegged at professor material and it just went on from there.


Hope you didn't burn your thinking bulb coming up with that one.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.


Oleg, was the meaning of the posted paragraph perhaps WAY ABOVE your cognitive level? If anything it was more YingYangistic rather than Christian; but people do jump to their own comfortingly dismissive, hasty conclusions.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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Flash wrote:Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo! :nuts:


Yeah, I can see how some concepts may be mind boggling to you; don't hurt yourself trying to solve complicated issues; try to master Algebra, and stick to "who done" it books and mass market romance; after all if we were all like AL PACINO what would the point of going to the movies be?
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby TJrandom » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:27 am

Damn - looks like if we post here we get visited by God. Who knew? :cry2:

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:23 pm

TazAnastazio wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Phoenix76 wrote:Geeeeez, where do they escape from?????????

Pyrrho grows them in the forum sub-basements. Started off innocently when he got a job providing stunt crews for "C.H.U.D. IV", but some of them escaped and went to seminary school. Those escapees were instantly pegged at professor material and it just went on from there.


Hope you didn't burn your thinking bulb coming up with that one.

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:23 pm

TazAnastazio wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:They are students in Christian Asshattery 101. We are field study.


Oleg, was the meaning of the posted paragraph perhaps WAY ABOVE your cognitive level? If anything it was more YingYangistic rather than Christian; but people do jump to their own comfortingly dismissive, hasty conclusions.

More like they're applying the GIGO principle.
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TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.
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TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.

Yeah, but other than that...
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.

Yeah, but other than that...

I only read the first 2 sentences. After that, I was too busy jumping to a comfortably dismissive conclusion.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Gord wrote:
TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.

Yeah, but other than that...

I only read the first 2 sentences. After that, I was too busy jumping to a comfortably dismissive conclusion.

Sounds like work. FOAD is quicker.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Gord wrote:
TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.

Yeah, but other than that...

I only read the first 2 sentences. After that, I was too busy jumping to a comfortably dismissive conclusion.

Sounds like work. FOAD is quicker.

Oh, it was hasty, too. I neglected to mention that.
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OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
OlegTheBatty wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Gord wrote:
TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat?

The second sentence tries to redefine the infinite to be "God", the fourth through sixth to give a "purpose" to existence, and the eighth to explain nature in anthropocentric terms.

Yeah, but other than that...

I only read the first 2 sentences. After that, I was too busy jumping to a comfortably dismissive conclusion.

Sounds like work. FOAD is quicker.

Oh, it was hasty, too. I neglected to mention that.

Yeah, sure, but was it pudding-level hasty?
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Postby Matthew Ellard » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:12 pm

TazAnastazio wrote: The Infinite is God.
Matthew Ellard wrote:For some inconceivable reason, you have decided to post this religious gibberish on a science based skeptic forum. I suggest you relocate to the David Icke Forum where you will have an audience. You will simply be attacked here.
https://forum.davidicke.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

TazAnastazio wrote:And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat? 'sides I was attacked in this forum before, what did that lead to, man of "MATHS" ?


In simple terms, you are a legacy left-over person, from the Dark Ages of human civilisation, who still believes in pixies, Leprechauns and God. You can't set out a coherent sentence that makes any sense and when educated skeptics point this out to you, your only revenge is to add shadow to their posts.

Try a religious forum or become an exhibit in a museum of Dark ages culture.....but, please, just go away. .

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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Nikki Nyx » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:46 am

TazAnastazio wrote:[[shadow=blue][shadow=blue]
Nikki Nyx wrote:"...this forum is dedicated to the promotion of science and critical thinking..."

Not religion.[/shadow][/shadow]



...Thanks Nikki, for a moment there I thought I was posting in the subject : " BELIEF, NONBELIEF, AND PHILOSOPHY " Buh, "internet." My post was probably also posted in the "SCIENCE AND CRITICAL THINKING..." forum as well; your response likewise.
Perhaps this one should have been posted in "BBCode for Beginners." Yikes, dude, you didn't have to attempt to blind me.

Let's try this again.
TazAnastazio wrote:The Infinite is God.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You've provided none, extraordinary or otherwise. So, your post is merely religious proselytization.

TazAnastazio wrote:The purpose of life is knowledge.
The purpose of life is to survive long enough to reproduce. All else is superfluous, evolutionarily-speaking. If the purpose of life were knowledge, according to Abrahamic tradition, God wouldn't have been pissed at Eve.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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Nikki Nyx wrote: Let's try this again.
It appear TazAnistazio has had four goes editing his opening post in this thread and as Gord points out, he already had a go here and asked Pyrrho to delete his previous posts.

He probably came back from church, swilled a couple beers, got some "Dutch courage" and thought he would overwhelm skeptics with his "Infinite is God" gobbledegook.
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

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TazAnastazio wrote: And how did you deduce that this was a "religious" non-scientific or simply philosophic post, Mat? 'sides I was attacked in this forum before, what did that lead to, man of "MATHS" ?

When you wrote "the infinite is god".

Try a religious forum. You don't need supporting evidence on religious forums, only "dark ages faith"
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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote: Let's try this again.
It appear TazAnistazio has had four goes editing his opening post in this thread and as Gord points out, he already had a go here and asked Pyrrho to delete his previous posts.

He probably came back from church, swilled a couple beers, got some "Dutch courage" and thought he would overwhelm skeptics with his "Infinite is God" gobbledegook.
:D
I just noticed the four edits. I mean, sure, I edit my posts quite a bit too...before I click "submit." That's what the "preview" button is for. :mrgreen: Besides, I'm sure any of us could down a few pints and still have no problem with that "opinion."
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@ Nikki :hmm: I think these days it would be "If the purpose of life were golf...'god' wouldn't have pissed on Ева."
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Matthew Ellard » Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:17 am

Nikki Nyx wrote: Besides, I'm sure any of us could down a few pints and still have no problem with that "opinion."
After a few pints I can be persuaded to have any opinion. ( I don't drink spirits for that reason. Accountants drink like fish and I used to get overenthusiastic (tipsy) and agree to take on stupid jobs. I stuck to two glasses of wine on Friday night W.I.P. meetings. I had Russian business partners back then and they drank..... like Russians)

( I suggested in another post that I don't smoke pot. That's not exactly true. I just couldn't say anything in that thread. I like to write songs "straight" and then "road test" them ...."not straight" if you get my drift. I can play "that way" but any alcohol makes me sloppy. )
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Re: The Solution To The Mystery

Postby Gord » Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:35 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Nikki Nyx wrote: Let's try this again.
It appear TazAnistazio has had four goes editing his opening post in this thread and as Gord points out, he already had a go here and asked Pyrrho to delete his previous posts.

At least one of those edits was to correct the spelling, but I think all four of them were.
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