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"A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Postby hardindr » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:30 am

"A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Presentation by Carolyn Dougherty

Sponsored by CNY Skeptics

Time: Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 7:00 PM

Where: Dewitt Public Library, 3649 Erie Blvd. East, DeWitt, NY 13214, USA

Event is Free and Open to the Public

Light refreshments will be served

Please contact 1-315-636-6533 or email info@cnyskeptics.org for more information

Presentation Summary:

From an early age Carolyn Dougherty was interested in the paranormal. As an adult she has spent much of her life exploring ghost stories and claims of haunting. In her presentation for CNY Skeptics she will talk about her journey from believing to applying critical thinking to investigations.

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Carolyn Dougherty was a writer and assistant editor for MyPara Paranormal Magazine, a writer for The Bent Spoon Magazine, and is the author of the book Creepy Corners: Searching for Truth in Paranormal Claims. She is the writer of Carolyn's Creepy Corner (http://carolynscreepycorner.blogspot.com/), a blog promoting critical thinking in paranormal research. Dougherty earned a BA in music and English from The University of the Pacific and taught language arts for many years.

Central New York Skeptics (CNY Skeptics) is a community organization dedicated to the promotion of science and reason, the investigation of paranormal and fringe-science claims, and the improvement of standards for science education and critical-thinking skills.

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Re: "A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Postby gorgeous » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:10 am

"fringe science" is the science of the future....they will learn.....are non-physical dimensions 'fringe science" ?
Science Fundamentalism...is exactly what happens when there’s a significant, perceived ideological threat to one’s traditions and identity.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:54 am

gorgeous wrote:"fringe science" is the science of the future....
Yep. Gorgeous is using a modern computer, created by normal science, to tell us he is looking forward to the return of the Dark Ages. :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WjhzzEHmE

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Postby OutOfBreath » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:13 am

gorgeous wrote:"fringe science" is the science of the future....they will learn.....

The more correct view is that future science is unknown today. Your statement implies that all fringe science will become mainstream. That's simply not true and very unlikely

are non-physical dimensions 'fringe science" ?

I'd go with a yes here. Only reasons for having them is to make string theory work. String theory is a beautiful math equation (or so I'm told) that still has no real pinning with real experiments and results. I read somehwere that they were trying out something soon that would either disprove it forever or give it a leg to stand on. I dont remember what though. A new collider Experiment or some telescope I think.

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Postby gorgeous » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:57 pm

wrong...you don't know that all 'fringe science' won't be mainstream...scientists have already proven psychic remote viewing works....and Robert Monroe taught people to travel out of body in non-physical dimensions for many years....some contacted people on the physical who later verified they had been contacted...
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Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:56 pm

Well, the evidence is what matters. That and proper examination of that evidence.
If what we examin of that evidence does the best job of explaining the world in the context it's used in, then we will see.

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Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:09 pm

gorgeous wrote:scientists have already proven psychic remote viewing works.....
No Gorgeous. "Remote viewing" is a fairy tale for idiots like yourself.

Why can't remote viewers find the missing passenger airliner MH370? According to you, this is exactly what "remote viewers" should be able to do.

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Postby Poodle » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:00 pm

gorgeous wrote:...scientists have already proven psychic remote viewing works....


Ah well - ease myself back in gently ...

Citation please, gorgeous.

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Re: "A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Postby gorgeous » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:38 pm

as on the remote viewing thread................ -------NSA Stargate remote viewing file -----PSYCHOENERGETICS RESEARCH
DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
DIRECTORATE FOR SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE
7 August 1984 - 2.00MB (pdf file)


Key highlights from the document are:
------- Psychoenergetics has its place somewhere between psychology and the other social sciences. It has not been reduced to mathematics and there is no physical model, but psychoenergetics does have many characteristics that are common to all science.

The first of these characteristics is replication. If an area of endeavor is to be considered a science, experiments must be replicable. When the results obtained in one laboratory cannot be obtained under the same experimental conditions in other laboratories, the work will be neglected and will be considered to fall outside the parameters of science.

The work in psychoenergetics at SRI has been replicated by several laboratories:
~ Remote Viewing (ESP)
- Princeton University, Princeton, NJ
- Institute for Parapsychology, Durham, NC
- Mundelein College, Chicago, IL
- University of California at Davis, CA
~ Remote Action (psychokinesis)
- Princeton University, Princeton, NJ
- Mind Science Foundation, San Antonio, TX
- Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn, NY
- Psychophysical Research Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
- Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
- Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH.

These are all bonafide scientific research and development institutes. In all, there have been 28 formal published replications of the remote viewing work at SRI. Obviously, this phenomenon is not an invention of SRI; it has been duplicated on a number of occasions.


[page 11]
Finally, the ongoing psychoenergetics program at SRI has recently been reviewed by a panel of renowned scientists (see Exhibit 9). Much of what they reported will be covered later in this publication. At this time, we wish to include one quote taken from the publication they prepared regarding their findings on the SRI psychoenergetic research; it bears directly on the question of whether or not psychoenergetics should be considered a science. "The lack of a physical model should not be taken to preclude the existence of the capability to view remote locations."


[page22] onwards:

The CIA was the first organization to fund research. Their program established that:
~ Geographical features can be ascertained with remote viewing.
~ Descriptive aspects of a site are better described than analytical aspects.
~ Operationally-useful information can be obtained.
~ Coordinate and beacon remote viewing can be successful.
~ Standard medical/physiological/psychologicaI screening is not useful.

In 1975, Navelex supported a $74K program which established that physiological correlates to remote viewing exist, but they are weak statistically. From 1976 to 1979, the Air Force supported research that demonstrated;
~ Remote viewing can be used to monitor real-time activities.
~ Accuracy and resolution are not a function of distance.
~ Spatial resolution is accurate down to millimeters.
~ Electrical shielding does not block remote viewing.

MIA was the next organization to enter the research. They supported work that verified that interaction with sensitive electronic equipment can result in significant perturbations from expected behavior.

In AMSAA's program, from 1978 to 1980, it.was proven that site descriptions are of higher quality than location-pinpointing or tracking information.

The DIA was the next agency to contract work in psychoenergetics at SRI. Their program:
~ Developed techniques to increase reliability by minimizing noise
~ Produced operational examples that were of high quality
~ Developed a reliability improvement program.
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Re: "A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:58 pm

gorgeous wrote:as on the remote viewing thread................ -------NSA Stargate remote viewing file -----PSYCHOENERGETICS RESEARCH
DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
DIRECTORATE FOR SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL INTELLIGENCE
7 August 1984 - 2.00MB (pdf file)

Gorgeous? You are re-posting the same forged document you posted five times previously.

Explain to us why "remote viewers" can't find the missing passenger airline MH370? You are claiming that "remote viewers" are able to do exactly that.
:lol:

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Postby gorgeous » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:46 am

maybe they haven't been asked to look for it...or maybe aliens removed the plane...
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Postby OutOfBreath » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:25 am

gorgeous wrote:wrong...you don't know that all 'fringe science' won't be mainstream...

True, I dont know that. I just observe that it is VERY rare that fringe science do become mainstream.

scientists have already proven psychic remote viewing works....

No, they havent. Some people funded by the military at the behest of a few senator fans made a botched study which relied on the main author's subjective interpretation of what the "viewers" said. Even the most friendly inclined people to the study only claimed a 15% success rate which was random, unreliable and tapping into mechanisms of confirmation bias and cold reading. Any subsequent test that rigorously removes confirmation bias have found nothing.

and Robert Monroe taught people to travel out of body in non-physical dimensions for many years....some contacted people on the physical who later verified they had been contacted...

That's religion of the New-age type, not science.

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Postby gorgeous » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:49 pm

is science with methodology..proving anyone can do it..there are many remote viewers not with the military...the military ones wrote about their experiences so everyone would know we all have this ability...
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Re: "A Ghost Hunter Turned Skeptic: One Paranormal Investigator's Story"

Postby Matthew Ellard » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:38 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Explain to us why "remote viewers" can't find the missing passenger airline MH370? You are claiming that "remote viewers" are able to do exactly that.
gorgeous wrote:maybe they haven't been asked to look for it.


Can't Find MH370
"Revisiting flight MH370 - Many of you may recall that I was brought onto Coast to Coast AM soon after the disappearance of flight MH370 to discuss our Remote Viewing findings of......" Major Ed Dames : Senior Remote Viewer
https://www.facebook.com/MajorEdDames/p ... 4634973911

Can't Find MH370
"Uri Geller, who has been using a technique called "remote viewing" to establish the fate of the plane, revealed that he believes....."
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysian-airl ... ht-1440395

Can't Find MH370
Remote Viewing Flight 370 cockpit, the real story! is now fully completed and the information I divulged in this article are just mind boggling. I started the astral projection/remote viewing just after 4 am and it lasted for.......... Dr. Turi M.D.U.S. / Senior remote viewer.

100% Total Failure by every person claiming to be a "remote viewer". :lol:


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