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Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:02 pm
by robinson
I just posted and it said the post has to be reviewed first. Is it just me?

Or is it the topic?

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=27692

Never saw this happen before.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:06 pm
by robinson
OK it just happened again in one topic, but not another.

posting.php?mode=reply&f=40&t=27659

So I figure it has to be the topic, not me.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:21 pm
by Gord
robinson wrote:Is it just me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W23LKD9Z1hw




...oh, and also this: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=27694

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:03 pm
by robinson
The answer is the entire sub is moderated.

Thanks to the few idiots who can't stop insulting each other.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:03 pm
by robinson
Yes, me calling some undefined group "idiots" was done to be ironic.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:05 pm
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Irony doesn't save the insult. Being polite so that the underlying merits get clouded over................ is never intended.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:42 am
by robinson
Irony is always welcome, when dealing with idiots.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:48 am
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Who are you "dealing" with? Idiots don't understand irony, so its appreciation is limited to those reading the irony? I note that "Irony is always welcome" is a defensible position, but "when dealing with idiots" is certainly not ironic, not welcome to oh so many ((Just because I enjoy the use of the term doesn't negate recognizing I'm in the minority)) readers who don't get the irony. Ha, ha.......kinda ironic that........ or is it a necessary condition?

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:42 pm
by robinson
Irony (or sarcasm) is wonderful, because the idiots don't get it, but the smart people do.

Meanwhile, none of my posts have been approved yet, so this moderation is quite effective at stopping the 3 or four post a week the climate forum used to get.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:42 pm
by robinson
That was sarcasm, in case you didn't get it.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:45 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
Deadpan posts are treated as literal. Sarcasm can easily come off as just being snide.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:59 am
by Pyrrho
When posts in the Climate Change forum are consistently focused on the data and evidence instead of individuals for at least a week, then the moderated status will be removed.

After moderated status is removed, and personal attacks continue, I'll start blocking offenders from that subforum.

If they continue attacking each other after that, they won't be posting here anymore.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:17 am
by robinson
Good. The focus on people is the bane of science.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:44 am
by Pyrrho
I do regret the chilling effect this will have on the discussion.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:25 am
by Gord
Pyrrho wrote:I do regret the chilling effect this will have on the discussion.

Better than the global warming effect that was happening without it. :heh:

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:13 am
by Gawdzilla Sama
"Please saw my leg off."
"Hand me that piano."
"Do what you want to the girl, but leave me alone!"
"I do regret the chilling effect this will have on the discussion."

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:31 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
he-he

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:06 pm
by robinson
Pyrrho wrote:I do regret the chilling effect this will have on the discussion.
Well, it was pretty much just 5 people posting.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:41 pm
by Pyrrho
I suppose I could reconsider and just put the folks who routinely post personal attacks on moderated status.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:53 pm
by robinson
You can do that? In just that forum?

That would be a nice tool.

I try to avoid making it personal, since it isn't scientific. (I know I have failed of course)

Punish the offenders, not the forum.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:51 pm
by Pyrrho
Moderated status has been removed.

I'll just start kicking out folks who can't or won't post without attacking each other.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:34 pm
by scrmbldggs
Hey, I didn't even do anything... lately. :glare:

I'm just kidding, sort of, but I'm "barred" anyway, having opted out a while ago and now am not able to opt back in again. There's no longer a function for that? Or am I not seeing it? Or... :cry:

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:38 pm
by scrmbldggs
Wait! I'm taking that back. Found out I have to resign from the Usergroup "Opt out..." and it's back... sorry!

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:09 pm
by gorgeous
Science has been nothing but a big trouble maker from the beginning!! :slapfight:

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:29 pm
by robinson
How hard can it be to post information with out becoming personal about it?

And, being totally serious now, I have been for years facetiously describing as a group, those who are saying we are in imminent danger from global warming, as "alarm ringers". Is that considered an attack? Or against the rules somehow?

I'm going to stop in any case, and if it has contributed to the animosity, I apologize.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:49 pm
by Pyrrho
Censorship is a tricky thing, especially when it starts getting into judgment calls and gray areas and flipping of quarters and rolling of dice.

I should resurrect the rule about not getting involved until the personal crap rolls over into another page of a given thread, when it dominates discussions, etc. The occasional stuff isn't a problem; when it becomes the rule rather than the exception, then it is defeating discussion in and of itself. Or that's my opinion, anyway. Maybe I should gin up a hockey stick chart or something.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:18 am
by JO 753
A frend uv mine had the idea to start uzing the N word constantly (he'z wite) on the theory that it woud take away its power to offend. I dont no if he'z implemented hiz plan yet. Therez a sertain lojik to it, but, considering he'z a Trump voter...

Along the same line uv thot - wut if the offending memberz are required to begin each reply post with a few sentensez basicly saying 'you are a complete idiot' and include similar derogitoryz in every sentens. The insults woud soon bekum tedious & ineffective and eventually the offenderz woud realize it just makes them look petty. (unless they are idiots)

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:20 am
by Pyrrho
They could just put that in their signatures.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:06 am
by bobbo_the_Pragmatist
Pyrrho wrote:Censorship is a tricky thing, especially when it starts getting into judgment calls and gray areas and flipping of quarters and rolling of dice.

......It depends on what "rule" you use. Simple Rule: everything you mention is.... or is not.... subject to censor. And who ever thinks you even could be "consistent?"

this is the second time you put the subject of AGW on moderation. "To me" the comments were only becoming repetitive and tedious. Just more grounds on which to censor? The name calling and personal attacks?----pretty innocuous,..... but then, I am a bastard.

Pros and Cons......... to all we do.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:12 pm
by Pyrrho
I refer the reader to the stated forum rules, a link to which I have added to the Climate Change subforum for the convenience of all concerned.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:42 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
Should rename that forum "Attitude Change", 'cause the inevitable isn't open to argument.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:56 pm
by robinson
Rules are good, because they define the playing field. With out rules, discourse descends into chaos and the Lord of the Flies

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:27 am
by Darren Wilshak
Yes and the rules are very clear. Who wants the conch next?

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:06 am
by Pyrrho
Conch? All we got here is a lot of abalone.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:14 am
by Gawdzilla Sama
Pyrrho wrote:Conch? All we got here is a lot of abalone.

"ahhh, bologna"?

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:23 am
by scrmbldggs
 
Spoiler:
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Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:34 am
by Darren Wilshak
They are not conchies, they are oysters.

Said the walruss to the carpeter.

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:36 pm
by Gord
Darren Wilshak wrote:...to the carpeter.

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Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:40 pm
by Gawdzilla Sama
Gord wrote:
Darren Wilshak wrote:...to the carpeter.

_ :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: :nsfw: _
. :nsfw: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Carpeter :nsfw: .
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You could have warned us. :evil:

Re: Why the moderation?

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:20 pm
by Gord
About what?