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What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:10 am

What's been rattling your cage since your day started?

I've seen some drama since first signing on this morning, some of the active threads are really trying reads...

and then my six-year-old daughter has a sha-hitfit on the way to the bus stop; an old-fashioned, full-on, crying-and-screaming ragestorm because she couldn't find her spotted toy dog that she likes to carry with her

which, it turns out, she had on her the whole time.

"Honey, I asked you if you looked in your pockets and you said yes!"

*she shrugs*

This kid, always at crunch time I tell ya.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:08 am

I work at a hospital, and often have to deal with difficult patients.

Last night, it was a suicidal guy that had eaten enough xanax that he messed his brain up, and his behavior was uncontrolled. He ripped out two iv's and attacked a nurse. He had a history of alcohol abuse and had liver troubles, which complicated what we could give him to chill him out.

I wound up grappling with him pretty much twelve hours straight, with only security relieving me every once in a while.

ER was crazy... I'm sure it was a full moon or something. :roll:
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Pyrrho » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:13 am

Hmm. I guess I won't post about my hangnail, then.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Chachacha » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:52 am

Pyrrho wrote:Hmm. I guess I won't post about my hangnail, then.


:lol:

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Matthew Ellard » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:24 am

Leto Atreides wrote: ER was crazy... I'm sure it was a full moon or something. :roll:


My elder brother is a psychiatric nurse. You have my sympathy.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby fromthehills » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:12 am

My community seems like a psychiatric ward sometimes.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby OlegTheBatty » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:13 am

fromthehills wrote:My community seems like a psychiatric ward sometimes.


Couple of threads on here too, seems to me...
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby fromthehills » Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:15 am

OlegTheBatty wrote:
fromthehills wrote:My community seems like a psychiatric ward sometimes.


Couple of threads on here too, seems to me...

:lol: Could've replaced community with forum

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:08 am

Pyrrho wrote:Hmm. I guess I won't post about my hangnail, then.


Well, if it's grinding your gears, why not? Besides, everyone likes a good hangnail tale.

Just now, my cage is being rattled by the fact that I can't get more than 60,000 characters in a post. What is this, SkepTwitter or something? :D
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby landrew » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:28 pm

Pyrrho wrote:Hmm. I guess I won't post about my hangnail, then.

A drop of superglue can take care of that for you.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Chachacha » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:24 pm

Leto Atreides wrote: Just now, my cage is being rattled by the fact that I can't get more than 60,000 characters in a post. What is this, SkepTwitter or something? :D


:lol:

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby ShadowSot » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:32 pm

I've had thre people today who didn't know what operating system they had on their computer, and they had the default background displaying Windows Vista, except for one person that said Windows XP.
Three people who called to complain of an issue they've had for months, and never contacts for tech support.
One person who felt entitled to not having to do diddly.
And people keep interupting me when I try to talk to them.
What's the issue?
Well I...
Tell me!
I...
Say something!
It's.
Nevermind then.
Those sorts of people grind my gears.

To add another one:
People seem to expect you know what they need, even if they don't explain it or let youknow what they're trying to do.
Or the people who call in several times to be told the same thing... and never do it.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Chachacha » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:38 pm

Ooo! Oooo! ShadowSot, keep notes, write a book! Tech help stories are some of the funniest stories evah! One of my favorites: From a person who was very angry that their newly purchased software wasn't working, "What do you mean I need a computer?"

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby ShadowSot » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:11 pm

From a person who was very angry that their newly purchased software wasn't working, "What do you mean I need a computer?"


Someday, I will buy one of these people a cup of coffee.
I'll sit down with them at the cafe.
I'll look down at my coffee, and then look up at them, and ask; "So, how exactly did you think you would get to the internet without a computer?"
Were they going to stick the cord in their ear, maybe?

I asked a fellow if he had a anti-virus program on his computer.
It took me several minutes to realize he meant literally, on his computer - he hadn't installed it yet and the disc was sitting on his computer.

I still can't understand why the hardest thing for some people to do is to unplug the power from their modem.
Of all things, that particular bit f technology has been around for well... longer than I've ben alive, and longer than they have as well!
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby OlegTheBatty » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:28 pm

Leto Atreides wrote:
Pyrrho wrote:Hmm. I guess I won't post about my hangnail, then.


Well, if it's grinding your gears, why not? Besides, everyone likes a good hangnail tale.

Just now, my cage is being rattled by the fact that I can't get more than 60,000 characters in a post. What is this, SkepTwitter or something? :D


How to get more than 60,000 characters in a post
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:46 pm

ShadowSot wrote:*snip*
...People seem to expect you know what they need, even if they don't explain it or let youknow what they're trying to do.
Or the people who call in several times to be told the same thing... and never do it.


There's a similar snare at the hospital with patients who have closed head injuries, you get conversations like this:

pt: "Where am I?"

me: "You're in the hospital, you hit a deer on your cycle and hurt your head."

*pt looks amused, as if you're telling a joke... and then, suspicious...*

"Quit lying."

"I'm not lying. See that IV in your arm? See these scrubs I'm wearing? You were in an accident. Lay back in the bed, would you please?"

"Yeah ...well, I got to go. Where's my pants and my boots?"

"You're in the ICU at the hospital. -don't pull on that tube- Remember wiping out on the road? It's not safe for you to leave, man. You've gotta lay back in bed."

*starts getting up, off balance, shoves me away when I try to stabilize him*

This devolves into several associates hauling him back to bed kicking and screaming about lawsuits and calling the cops and how he's not in prison, you can't do this, he knows powerful, important people who'll blahblahblah
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby ShadowSot » Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:10 pm

Ah, but at least these poor folks have an excuse.
Supposedly the fellows I speak with havn't been in any sort of accident.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:53 pm

True enough, you can excuse the head injury patients. Not so for the frequent-flyer alcoholics/ meth addicts. Same for post-surgical/ orthopedic patients. No head injury, not very much medication... many of them simply want to be, many simply like being the biggest jerk they can. They want to be "star of the unit".

A unit might have twenty-five patients for example, and someone is determined to be the most demanding and most unreasonable.

"I know the CEO of this hospital and you're all getting sued!"

"Why is that, because we won't let you walk out of the room?"

"Damned straight!"

"Do you see, down at the end of your right leg there, the bandages? Do you see there's no foot, and there's still blood on the most recent bandage change? Your foot was amputated because you don't control your diabetes you've known about for twenty years." (patient has been informed of this many times per day for a week)

"So what? I want a cigarette, do you smoke? Can you loan me a cigarette, I'll come right back up to the floor, I promise. What floor is this?"

"You're not on any medication that would make you behave this way. You don't have any history of bipolar issues. Why are you acting like this?"

"I just wanna smoke. And you won't let me!"

...had that one last night. But the first part of the night was spent with a kid on the pediatrics unit, a twelve-year-old with I-forget-what-it's-called-right-now. He was sweet and polite, and despite his pain and discomfort, he was a trooper and handled himself better than many men my age. It was a pleasure helping that kid, and even if he was throwing rocks, you let it go because he's a kid. It makes the adults who've bad-choiced their way into the hospital that much more unbearable.

-and now I'm through whining for today. Just woke up, need coffee.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby ShadowSot » Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:58 pm

It makes the adults who've bad-choiced their way into the hospital that much more unbearable.


While I don't work in the medical field, I have an idea of what you mean.
Much as I love watching medical television, don't think I could troubleshoot people.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby bigtim » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:11 pm

Hell, I have stories. I'm an engineer and have been in the IT/Computer Ops field for ooohhhh couple of decades.

I started in IT and supporting Users. I haven't in a while (thank Cthulu).

I recall one client I had that I installed a network (it was still Coaxial cable days). One thing I always did when I bid a job was to collected their requirements completely, have them read and sign. Then when the job was done there was a final review and their signed agreement that their requirements were met.

Well, this one particular contract after it was done I get a call from the Partner of the firm. He says it's not working, he's trying to get to these here news groups and he just can't find them (this was back when newsgroups were still the biggest way to share files and images and such... as I'm sure some of you recall ;-)). I had to tell him he's not wired to the 'net. To whit he replied that we had an agreement that I'd install a network for him and unless I wanted to be sued by him I'd better make it work. I then explained to him what Local Area Newtork meant, that it's only his office and nowhere else. But I'd be very happy to bid another contract to get him setup that way.

This is the same guy that after I did that hired me to write scripts so he could download porn off the net (uuencode, decode, etc...) because it was too complicated for him to get them off the newsgroups.

I also had a stockbroker hire me to the exact same thing.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:52 pm

bigtim, you must be long, long past the ability to be dumbfounded by computer-illiterate porn hounds. Ciph's, as we call ourselves. I'd tell you to stop by our forum, but we still stay in touch by snailmail.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby bigtim » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:08 pm

Leto Atreides wrote:bigtim, you must be long, long past the ability to be dumbfounded by computer-illiterate porn hounds. Ciph's, as we call ourselves. I'd tell you to stop by our forum, but we still stay in touch by snailmail.


I think most days many porn hounds are very computer literate (CLPH).

I worked with a guy here recently that one day proclaimed how he was amazed that any *still* continued to pay for porn thanks to the interwebs...
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:34 pm

You mean, people still pay for porn? Thor's mighty hammer, that's outrageous!

Cage-rattling even more today: wife just called- she can't make dinner tonight because she has an unexpected rehearsal for her belly-dance spring show. :( And I won't have a chance at dinner with her again for the next two nights (we work opposite schedules)
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:58 pm

This forum rattled my cage yesterday.

Over in the "Why is religion/God good" viewtopic.php?f=83&t=12892 thread, I saw some of the closed-mindedness that bothers me about some skeptics. The idea that religion is awful across-the-board is ridiculous. The piling-on of some who are full of their own assumptions felt bad... it was disheartening, and I almost said, "Screw this forum. I answered a simple question in a straightforward manner and was totally s**t on for it."

Skepticism and critical thinking are important tools, among the most important tools humans have developed- I believe they are necessary to the race getting to exciting places in the future.

But some of what was thrown at me was just plain obnoxious. I used to be that kind of skeptic, and atheist: anxious to be irreligious, to show my point of view as the only correct way of thinking, to belittle those who believe differently.

I came to understand that I was doing a disservice to critical thinking by representing it poorly, as though it were a cudgel to beat others into submission.
I was full of those "Oh yeah, well what about this example , and that example " arguments.

Used to be, I twisted my lips into a sneer whenever religious people expressed their point of view. Now I find myself equally disgusted, if not more so, by skeptics and atheists who make us all appear childish and emotionally immature.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby landrew » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:09 pm

As Henry Ford said, "You can buy a Model T in any color you like, as long as it's black."

In a skeptics forum you can question anything you like, except the way skepticism itself is practiced.

Take it from me, I have plenty of experience with daring to question the way some skeptics approach extraordinary evidence, and facing their almighty wrath.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:17 pm

landrew wrote:As Henry Ford said, "You can buy a Model T in any color you like, as long as it's black."

In a skeptics forum you can question anything you like, except the way skepticism itself is practiced.

Take it from me, I have plenty of experience with daring to question the way some skeptics approach extraordinary evidence, and facing their almighty wrath.


Sounds like Hobson's Choice.

In a skeptic's forum, one should always be willing to explore the way critical thinking is presented by its proponents.

Of course, any forum will have the "I'm better than you" types; I just find it dismaying because I value critical thinking so much. We have to be careful to make skepticism appealing as a way of approaching issues, not turn it into a haven for the self-satisfied.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby landrew » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:10 pm

Leto Atreides wrote:
landrew wrote:As Henry Ford said, "You can buy a Model T in any color you like, as long as it's black."

In a skeptics forum you can question anything you like, except the way skepticism itself is practiced.

Take it from me, I have plenty of experience with daring to question the way some skeptics approach extraordinary evidence, and facing their almighty wrath.


Sounds like Hobson's Choice.

In a skeptic's forum, one should always be willing to explore the way critical thinking is presented by its proponents.

Of course, any forum will have the "I'm better than you" types; I just find it dismaying because I value critical thinking so much. We have to be careful to make skepticism appealing as a way of approaching issues, not turn it into a haven for the self-satisfied.

Exhibiting too much scientific uncertainty on some subjects can label you a "pinko commie" to the skeptics cause, towards whom no measure of mercy is justified, in the eyes of some of them.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby xouper » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:15 pm

Leto Atreides wrote:What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Maybe not today, exactly, but sometimes it grinds my gears when someone on a forum tries to pick a fight with me about some opinion I posted and offers a specious argument and then demands that I spend an escalating amount of time and energy demonstrating to their satisfaction why their argument is invalid. Sometimes I oblige, but sometimes I just wanna say, "I'm not your {!#%@} babysitter, moron."

There, now I feel better. Thanks.

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Chachacha » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:33 pm

:lol:

I remember an exchange on the boards (which may have been facillitated by one of my posts :oops: ) when one member suggested we open a forum for opinions, and another member responded, "You mean this whole place isn't a forum for opinions?"

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Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:34 pm

Venting is what's this here's all about, amigo!

And-a-one, two, three -
Take a step back! -2, 3-
Take a step back!

I'm gonna try to confine my whinier tendencies to this thread. That way I won't seem like a colossal douchebag. :D
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Chachacha » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:38 pm

Leto Atreides wrote:Venting is what's this here's all about, amigo!

And-a-one, two, three -
Take a step back! -2, 3-
Take a step back!

I'm gonna try to confine my whinier tendencies to this thread. That way I won't seem like a colossal douchebag. :D


Dude, focus on the fact that you have a wife who belly-dances, making you one very, very lucky man.

Although I suspect that "luck" had less to do with it than having the mindset of a happy man. ;)

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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:39 pm

Chachacha wrote::lol:

I remember an exchange on the boards (which may have been facillitated by one of my posts :oops: ) when one member suggested we open a forum for opinions, and another member responded, "You mean this whole place isn't a forum for opinions?"


I love it when folks respond to something I write with "Yah, well, that's just your opinion."

Well of course it's my opinion. :roll: Practically anything ever written on a message board was someone's opinion.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:46 pm

Chachacha wrote:
Leto Atreides wrote:Venting is what's this here's all about, amigo!

And-a-one, two, three -
Take a step back! -2, 3-
Take a step back!

I'm gonna try to confine my whinier tendencies to this thread. That way I won't seem like a colossal douchebag. :D


Dude, focus on the fact that you have a wife who belly-dances, making you one very, very lucky man.

Although I suspect that "luck" had less to do with it than having the mindset of a happy man. ;)


Oh, that was just a thing a band I love used to do during concerts when the front rows would start getting really pressed. They'd implore the crowd to please not squish the people in the front... I was thinking about some happy times.

She had a show last night, dancing at a local Middle-Eastern restaurant. She was radiant. I am a very fortunate guy, it's true... she does this thing called the Turkish Drop, where she squats way down and arches her body over backwards til her head touches the floor.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby rrichar911 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:31 pm

I am a little worried that Obama may not form a one world government in his first term.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby landrew » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:13 pm

rrichar911 wrote:I am a little worried that Obama may not form a one world government in his first term.

May not? Does that mean you can't wait for one?
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:23 pm

Thing is, he already has and you just don't know it yet!
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:00 pm

Yah, sand'll get in there and then you're all like, "Dangit!" an' stuff.
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby Leto Atreides » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:39 pm

Just got home from work, tough shift... we had a guy placed with a psych facility, he'd been hospital-housing for a month, we were desperate to get rid of his crazy ass... but when we finally had him off restraints for 24 hours and he was ready to go...

his daughter decides not to sign the papers. The nurse told her, "Listen, your insurance said they were done paying as of noon today, so every hour he spends here is costing you thousands of dollars, you understand?"

She wouldn't even give a reason. Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
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Re: What's Grinding Your Gears Today?

Postby JO 753 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:16 pm

I like this topic. Makes my problemz shrink to trivia.


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