Doctor Asperger favored euthanizing those with his eponymous syndrome

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Doctor Asperger favored euthanizing those with his eponymous syndrome

Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:21 pm

Austrian paediatrician Asperger 'actively cooperated' with Nazis: study
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Austrian paediatrician Hans Asperger, after whom Asperger's syndrome is named, "actively cooperated" with the Nazi euthanasia programme, according to a new study published on Thursday.

"Asperger managed to accommodate himself to the Nazi regime and was rewarded for his affirmations of loyalty with career opportunities," Herwig Czech, a historian of medicine at the Medical University of Vienna, wrote in the study.

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Asperger was also a member of a committee tasked with deciding the fate of around 200 patients in a children's ward at another hospital, 35 of whom were deemed "uneducable" and later died, according to Czech.

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Re: Doctor Asperger favored euthanizing those with his eponymous syndrome

Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:15 am

eugenics started in the USA ? backlash from the extremism of Nazis' is the only reason it is hidden today .
he died in 1980 , and was working? his whole life .

eugenics is alive and well - hidden behind the lie - we are doing the best we can to help.

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Post by psychiatry is a scam » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:32 am

scroll down to the near bottom of that site .
Nazis who killed hundreds of children in Vienna kept their jobs , report shows

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Re: Doctor Asperger favored euthanizing those with his eponymous syndrome

Post by Gord » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:00 am

psychiatry is a scam wrote:eugenics started in the USA ?
It's older than that. In ancient Greece, Plato suggested selective mating to breed a better human.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:12 am

I support eugenics........with the KEY being what the nazi's demonstrated: don't let the Gubment lead any efforts one was or the other. FREEEEEEEEEEEDOM: people doing what they want to do. Gubments role: informing, safety, public order and such.

Example a few steps down the ladder of social condemnation: aborting anencephalitic fetuses who have every expectation of living with minimal support for several years. This should be the decision of the Parents (both in agreement) with the gubment not interfering in whatever decision is made. Costs to be shouldered by those making the decision. many people do not support such eugenics........I can think of more objectionable programs.

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Post by landrew » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:40 pm

Gord wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:eugenics started in the USA ?
It's older than that. In ancient Greece, Plato suggested selective mating to breed a better human.
That's what the caste system was all about.
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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:37 pm

It's not really "eugenics" unless it's something imposed by a central authority.
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Post by landrew » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:42 am

Eugenics was quite popular back in the day. So were a lot of bad things.
Were people back then just all bad?
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Post by Wordbird » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 am

bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:This should be the decision of the Parents (both in agreement) with the gubment not interfering in whatever decision is made. Costs to be shouldered by those making the decision.
I think a lot of people in modern day actually don't understand the choice precisely because someone else is always paying.

If they did have to pay, at first it would be something horrible but necessary, but they would just bite the bullet, euthanise, and have another kid. They'd be sad at first, but the healthy baby they eventually got, without itself being burdened in some way by the anencephalic sister that they waste their Saturdays visiting and who only terrifies the child, would eventually make the whole family happier.

Gradually this would become acceptable in modern culture. Everyone recognises the choice that makes everyone better off, it just takes a while for culture to follow it down the road and stop condemning people.

The reverse is the scary thing: As soon as a morally hoity-toity choice is available on the cheap, people immediately start condemning others for not taking it, because there's dominance and social advantage to be gained from it.

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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:03 am

Abdul Alhazred wrote:It's not really "eugenics" unless it's something imposed by a central authority.
Can that be true? Is it true about all other human activities as well? Its not farming if you are forced to do it? Lets let the dictionary be our guide to external neutral informing reality?

eugenics: The study of methods of improving genetic qualities by selective breeding (especially as applied to human mating) //// Hmmmm….no mention of Nazi's or gubment there. You might be using a special dictionary?==>always a caution.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:06 am

Bird is the Word: quite right. As coincidence has it, years ago I knew two couples. Each had brain damaged kiddies. One aborted it with as you note the follow up healthy happy kiddies and their family prospered. The other friends kept the baby, got divorced, and the kiddie died at age 3.

Just a real anecdote. Choices have consequences BEYOND the initial rush of emotions. Choose wisely...……..and with purpose.
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:14 am

landrew wrote:
Gord wrote:
psychiatry is a scam wrote:eugenics started in the USA ?
It's older than that. In ancient Greece, Plato suggested selective mating to breed a better human.
That's what the caste system was all about.
No.

caste: (Hinduism) a hereditary social class among Hindus; stratified according to ritual purity

Greek breeding of better humans is all about breaking the caste.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:15 pm

I will clarify my previous statement:

People picking their mates other than at random is not in general "eugenics".
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Post by bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:59 pm

Its not in general how you make a ham sandwich either.
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