Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

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Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Aaron Richards » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:17 pm

Some of the more exotic forms of antisemitism I have encountered is when I'm told one of the reasons Israel does not have a right to exist, is because Ashkenazi Jews ("European Jews" as compared to Mizrahi "Middle Eastern" Jews and Sephardi "Iberian" Jews) are the descendants of the ancient central Asian kingdom of Khazaria, where once upon a time a king decided to pick and choose a new religion for his subjects and went eeny, meeny, miny, moe and settled for Judaism. Therefore, so I was informed, the Ashkenazi have no connection to the "true Hebrews" and have no claims to any land in the middle east.

Now I remember doing some research about this a few years ago and finding out that the entire Jewish dispora does have genealogical ancestry in the Levant region, so this idea that the Ashkenazi branch is a completely different people seems odd to me. Is it a neo nazi theory? I know Benjamin Freedman was one of its proponents.
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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Jeff_36 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:37 pm

It's utter nonsense and IIRC has been scientifically disproven. Historically it makes no sense either, since only the ruling class of the Khazars converted to Judaism while the 99% retained their old pagan religion.

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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Denying-History » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:51 pm

No.... DNA tests have proven the theory to be complete BS. David Duke even says that the theory is a complete lie.
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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Mary Q Contrary » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:07 pm

Aaron Richards wrote:Some of the more exotic forms of antisemitism I have encountered is when I'm told one of the reasons Israel does not have a right to exist, is because Ashkenazi Jews ("European Jews" as compared to Mizrahi "Middle Eastern" Jews and Sephardi "Iberian" Jews) are the descendants of the ancient central Asian kingdom of Khazaria, where once upon a time a king decided to pick and choose a new religion for his subjects and went eeny, meeny, miny, moe and settled for Judaism. Therefore, so I was informed, the Ashkenazi have no connection to the "true Hebrews" and have no claims to any land in the middle east.

Now I remember doing some research about this a few years ago and finding out that the entire Jewish dispora does have genealogical ancestry in the Levant region, so this idea that the Ashkenazi branch is a completely different people seems odd to me. Is it a neo nazi theory? I know Benjamin Freedman was one of its proponents.

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Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:11 pm

????? It is the OP and topic of the thread, Mary Q. It didn't grab my attention, truth be told, but that doesn't make it off topic.
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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby nickterry » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:24 pm

For once, Maryzilla is kind of right: the thread is off topic for this sub-forum.

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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Statistical Mechanic » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:34 pm

It certainly doesn't interest me, but when we've had threads like "IDF soldier executes unconscious Palestinian," Charlie Hebdo and the November massacre in Paris, issues with anti-Semitism, I can't really get tweaked over someone adding to the subforum a thread on anti-Semitic memes. As for Mary, she is just trolling 'cuz she got her ass smacked for trying to divert Jeffk's thread.
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Postby Pyrrho » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:40 pm

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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:55 pm

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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby Gord » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:47 am

Statistical Mechanic wrote:????? It is the OP and topic of the thread, Mary Q. It didn't grab my attention, truth be told, but that doesn't make it off topic.

nickterry wrote:For once, Maryzilla is kind of right: the thread is off topic for this sub-forum.

I think she was speaking of her own post. As in, "Look, everybody, my post is off topic! Lookit me, Stat Mech! Lookit lookit lookit!"
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Re: Is there any truth to the Ashkenazi = Khazaria theory?

Postby NathanC » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:31 am

Just another reminder that there's no limit to the lies sickos say about Jews.


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