Soviet Offensive Plans

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Re: Soviet Offensive Plans

Postby Denying-History » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:43 am

I consider it a must read. It proves the USSR was in no state for defensive or offensive during 1941 and were in a state of partial mobilization.
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Re: Soviet Offensive Plans

Postby BRoI » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:48 am

Stalin 'planned to send a million troops to stop Hitler if Britain and France agreed pact'
Stalin was 'prepared to move more than a million Soviet troops to the German border to deter Hitler's aggression just before the Second World War'
By Nick Holdsworth in Moscow, 18 Oct 2008

Papers which were kept secret for almost 70 years show that the Soviet Union proposed sending a powerful military force in an effort to entice Britain and France into an anti-Nazi alliance.

Such an agreement could have changed the course of 20th century history, preventing Hitler's pact with Stalin which gave him free rein to go to war with Germany's other neighbours.

The offer of a military force to help contain Hitler was made by a senior Soviet military delegation at a Kremlin meeting with senior British and French officers, two weeks before war broke out in 1939.

The new documents, copies of which have been seen by The Sunday Telegraph, show the vast numbers of infantry, artillery and airborne forces which Stalin's generals said could be dispatched, if Polish objections to the Red Army crossing its territory could first be overcome.

But the British and French side - briefed by their governments to talk, but not authorised to commit to binding deals - did not respond to the Soviet offer, made on August 15, 1939. Instead, Stalin turned to Germany, signing the notorious non-aggression treaty with Hitler barely a week later.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, named after the foreign secretaries of the two countries, came on August 23 - just a week before Nazi Germany attacked Poland, thereby sparking the outbreak of the war. But it would never have happened if Stalin's offer of a western alliance had been accepted, according to retired Russian foreign intelligence service Major General Lev Sotskov, who sorted the 700 pages of declassified documents.

"This was the final chance to slay the wolf, even after [British Conservative prime minister Neville] Chamberlain and the French had given up Czechoslovakia to German aggression the previous year in the Munich Agreement," said Gen Sotskov, 75.

The Soviet offer - made by war minister Marshall Klementi Voroshilov and Red Army chief of general staff Boris Shaposhnikov - would have put up to 120 infantry divisions (each with some 19,000 troops), 16 cavalry divisions, 5,000 heavy artillery pieces, 9,500 tanks and up to 5,500 fighter aircraft and bombers on Germany's borders in the event of war in the west, declassified minutes of the meeting show.

But Admiral Sir Reginald Drax, who lead the British delegation, told his Soviet counterparts that he authorised only to talk, not to make deals.
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Postby Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:32 pm

Why don't you guys try this out in an actual history forum, like
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Re: Soviet Offensive Plans

Postby iwh » Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:29 pm

Jeffk 1970 wrote:Of course, I have to get through all of the other books I’ve got stacked up.....

LOL...yep...same here. Just started on Cesarani's Final Solution.
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Re: Soviet Offensive Plans

Postby Jeffk 1970 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:39 pm

iwh wrote:
Jeffk 1970 wrote:Of course, I have to get through all of the other books I’ve got stacked up.....

LOL...yep...same here. Just started on Cesarani's Final Solution.

Oh, that is excellent.

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