Solar Roadways Again???

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Solar Roadways Again???

Postby Bart Stewart » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:45 pm

I have almost a thousand posts on this board and the one that drew the most negative response by far was my little essay on the Solar Roadways scheme. That was a company proposing to install solar panels in roadways, all over the world. (And I never exactly endorsed the idea! I said maybe walkways would make a good space for solar collection.)

That was a few years ago. The idea was roundly panned here as being utterly infeasible due to glass panels not having enough traction for highway traffic, among other problems, though I came away with the feeling that some of the responses were just negative on solar power in general. I heard no more about Solar Roadways in the media, so I figured it was a passing scam. They did manage to raise $2 Million on Indiegogo.

Then, just now, I nearly fell over upon seeing an article that Solar Roadways has received a $750,000 grant from the National Highway Administration! It was in a link posted on Twitter by UBS, the big Swiss financial firm. It's a Mashable article, dated this month, and you have to scroll down a bit to where it says Solar Roadways. The article ends with an appeal for investment!

http://mashable.com/2017/11/09/climate- ... uO.AHtuOqu

I checked the FHWA site and found this, from January of last year.

https://www.volpe.dot.gov/news/new-pave ... lar-panels

I was happy to see that it concludes by saying that the panels may not be viable for roadways, but they may have some potential in walkways!

Of course, solar technology has improved enormously over two years. Prices are plunging. They are printing the material now, and transparent collection panels are coming online for use in windows. China is leading the way in the technology, as we turn away from our evil war on coal.

http://www.newsweek.com/fossil-fuels-tr ... msu-691308

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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:02 pm

Yep. As technology improves, old approaches should be reevaluated. Lots of road surface just sitting there. sidewalks, Roofs.
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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby Cadmusteeth » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 pm

Within reason in regards to the laws of physics.

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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby Bart Stewart » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:33 am

Ironically, roadways may turn out to be the last surface we solarize! (Is that a word?) But there are many, many square miles of area that would be appropriate for it, especially as the technology continues to advance.

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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby Gord » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:25 am

Have you ever watched any of Thunderf00t's youtube videos critiquing Solar Freakin' Roadways?

Like this one from three months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIuiZh5t9_Y

Or this one from 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ftXinT4jI

And if you really want to spend a few hours watching more of his videos just on this topic alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV-RnVQdcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFNzCUo028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTjdkNEgV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIfo1Dynjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR574qhPSDY

But if you just want to limit your viewing time to less than 20 minutes, I recommend the second video I've posted.
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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby ElectricMonk » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:53 am

Thing is, solar doesn't actually need that much space. As Gord's video said, paving roads with it would be overkill.
Roads or walkways have other drawbacks: installation and repair would impair traffic. For both health and aesthetic reasons we try to keep walkways in shade. In cities, tall buildings keep them in partial shade most of the day.
A well placed solar farm can produce sufficient power with easier installation - no need to mix two very different types of infrastructure.
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Postby Austin Harper » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:19 pm

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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby Gord » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:23 am

"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
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Re: Solar Roadways Again???

Postby ElectricMonk » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:56 pm

https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/05/someo ... it-opened/

Maybe not so clever to make expensive equipment easily accessible for everyone...
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