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Bald men have gold in their heads

Post by Gord » Thu May 31, 2018 8:46 am

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... mozambique
Bald Men Are Being Hunted Down In Mozambique
June 9, 20172:34 PM ET

Authorities in Mozambique say bald men are being killed, allegedly because of the belief that their heads contain gold.

So far five bald men have been killed, all in central Mozambique: two in May in Milange district close to the border with Malawi and three this month in the district of Morrumbala....
That was from last year. I wonder if it's still going on?
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Thu May 31, 2018 9:14 am

Well, I am still safe.

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Post by Aztexan » Thu May 31, 2018 12:18 pm

Not that I'm condoning it or saying it's right but at least the bald men are adults. Have you heard what they do to albino children in that part of the world?
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Post by Hex » Thu May 31, 2018 2:45 pm

Gord wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... mozambique
Bald Men Are Being Hunted Down In Mozambique
June 9, 20172:34 PM ET

Authorities in Mozambique say bald men are being killed, allegedly because of the belief that their heads contain gold.

So far five bald men have been killed, all in central Mozambique: two in May in Milange district close to the border with Malawi and three this month in the district of Morrumbala....
That was from last year. I wonder if it's still going on?
I heard this story on the Cognitive Dissonance podcast.

No wonder Africa has been {!#%@} for so long. Between old timey spiritual/religious belief's to the peddle-to-the-metal spread of new-timey religious belief's, there hasn't been enough time or space for secular reasoning to spread.
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  And also, how much gold will they have collected by now?  
In my experience, not much. And you can avoid the whole, killing in the most bizarre easter egg hunt thing, if you just went Marathon Man on them instead.
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Post by Wordbird » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:22 am

Someone should let them know that there's gold in the ocean.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:30 am

Wordbird wrote:Someone should let them know that there's gold in the ocean.
It was a 1968 episode of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. :D

A scientist, Dr. True, has developed a process for extracting gold from seawater. He dies just as he is performing a demonstration for Solo and Kuryakin
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0641090/

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Post by Lance Kennedy » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:23 am

The amount of gold in the ocean is miniscule. You would be better off looking for uranium, of which there is much more.

Probably, most of the Earths gold is in or near the core of the planet. Wanna start digging ?

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Post by landrew » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:05 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:The amount of gold in the ocean is miniscule. You would be better off looking for uranium, of which there is much more.

Probably, most of the Earths gold is in or near the core of the planet. Wanna start digging ?
A large proportion of recoverable gold is in strata impacted during the late heavy bombardment around 3.9 billion years ago. It's speculated that the gold was formed by the impact of two colliding neutron stars.
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Post by landrew » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:11 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Wordbird wrote:Someone should let them know that there's gold in the ocean.
It was a 1968 episode of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. :D

A scientist, Dr. True, has developed a process for extracting gold from seawater. He dies just as he is performing a demonstration for Solo and Kuryakin
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0641090/
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:56 pm

landrew wrote: A large proportion of recoverable gold is in strata impacted during the late heavy bombardment around 3.9 billion years ago. It's speculated that the gold was formed by the impact of two colliding neutron stars.
No doubt true. But gold does not stay where it was put. It is a very heavy atom and over 4 billion years the Earths crust and mantle moves a great deal. The gold atoms sink. Gold is also a siderophile, meaning it has an affinity for iron. Thus it will tend to associate with the iron at or near the core.

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Post by landrew » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:30 am

Lance Kennedy wrote:
landrew wrote: A large proportion of recoverable gold is in strata impacted during the late heavy bombardment around 3.9 billion years ago. It's speculated that the gold was formed by the impact of two colliding neutron stars.
No doubt true. But gold does not stay where it was put. It is a very heavy atom and over 4 billion years the Earths crust and mantle moves a great deal. The gold atoms sink. Gold is also a siderophile, meaning it has an affinity for iron. Thus it will tend to associate with the iron at or near the core.
It would be interesting to see if gold comes up with the magma.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:17 am

It does.
And it dissolves in ultra hot high pressure water. Such water that flows past magma picks up gold and deposits it as seams when it reaches a place where it cools. Usually with quartz that is also carried and deposited by ultra hot and ultra high pressure water. E.g.. The Witwatersrand deposits in South Africa.

But where gold is "available " most readily in large amounts is on planets that never formed, thus not permitting it to sink to the core, since with no planet forming there was no core. This is the case for the asteroids, which are a planet that never formed. Not only gold, but also platinum and other heavy elements are found in larger amounts on or near the surface of those asteroids.

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Post by landrew » Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:36 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:It does.
And it dissolves in ultra hot high pressure water. Such water that flows past magma picks up gold and deposits it as seams when it reaches a place where it cools. Usually with quartz that is also carried and deposited by ultra hot and ultra high pressure water. E.g.. The Witwatersrand deposits in South Africa.

But where gold is "available " most readily in large amounts is on planets that never formed, thus not permitting it to sink to the core, since with no planet forming there was no core. This is the case for the asteroids, which are a planet that never formed. Not only gold, but also platinum and other heavy elements are found in larger amounts on or near the surface of those asteroids.
How do you explain the rockiness of an asteroid if it was never part of a planet? Many nickel-iron meteorites were formed in dead star planetoids that fragmented.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:22 pm

"Rockiness " comes from the fact that many of the materials form into silicate compounds. The standard model of asteroid formation is that they are left over materials from planet formation that never coalesced into a planet. It is suggested that the gravity of Jupiter played a role in preventing this coalescing. However, there is plenty of energy involved in asteroid interaction. Over the billions of years they have existed, they have multiple times smashed into each other. This energy drives many changes, including chemical changes.

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Post by landrew » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:06 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:"Rockiness " comes from the fact that many of the materials form into silicate compounds. The standard model of asteroid formation is that they are left over materials from planet formation that never coalesced into a planet. It is suggested that the gravity of Jupiter played a role in preventing this coalescing. However, there is plenty of energy involved in asteroid interaction. Over the billions of years they have existed, they have multiple times smashed into each other. This energy drives many changes, including chemical changes.
That may be a prevailing view, but it's difficult to believe that rocky asteroids form in space. Dust coalesces into comets, but there's no mechanism I can see that would form rocky asteroids without being part of a planet or planetoid at some point. We know that pressures build up inside planets like our own, but some of us are afraid to imagine that they can explode.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:42 am

Dust is chemically the same as rock. Rocky asteroids are considered to be mostly a loose aggregate, which includes dust. But dust can melt and recombine into hard rock with enough energy, which is simply present in those collisions.

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Post by Gord » Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:13 pm

landrew wrote:...We know that pressures build up inside planets like our own, but some of us are afraid to imagine that they can explode.
I'm not afraid to imagine that planets can explode, but I've never found a mechanism that would allow for it.

For instance, see this link for more information exploring the concept of exploding planets: https://www.spaceanswers.com/solar-syst ... d-the-sun/
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Post by landrew » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:56 pm

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landrew wrote:...We know that pressures build up inside planets like our own, but some of us are afraid to imagine that they can explode.
I'm not afraid to imagine that planets can explode, but I've never found a mechanism that would allow for it.

For instance, see this link for more information exploring the concept of exploding planets: https://www.spaceanswers.com/solar-syst ... d-the-sun/
We have a satellite, the moon which places tidal forces on the crust of the earth, which creates faults. Some planets have no faults, therefore internal pressures can build up to the point where the planet explodes. Just a theory of mine mind you, but it does fit with what we see in the asteroid belt.
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Post by Lance Kennedy » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:07 pm

As Gord said, there is no evidence that planets can explode, and no mechanism known that would permit it.

A small moon might be torn apart if it gets too close to a large planet like Jupiter, and gets ripped apart by tidal forces. That is one of the theories for the formation of rings.

A larger object might disastrously collide with a planet, as is thought to have happened to Earth, many billions of years ago, leading to the formation of our moon. But planets exploding does not appear to happen.