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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:40 pm

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placid wrote: I don't exist
placid wrote:You have no proof I fear.
So you now say you do exist?

You are a very confused Advaita follower.
I exist, I have no proof another one exists.

Not confused, the body is never confused. It's knows when to pee and poo...it's not a drunk skunk that poos and wees it's pants.

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You can't pay people to act this stupid. :lol:
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Nikki Nyx » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:44 pm

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Poodle wrote:You name yourself the Unbeliever. Therefore, you reject the Apricot of Truth.
Placid fears that the Apricot of Truth contains the Kernel of Fabrication, and that accepting the Apricot will lead to the Pit of Despair, and thence to...The Machine.
You have no proof I fear.
I have all the proof you fear.
placid wrote:You make this all up as you go along...out of fear of not-knowing anything.
Are you heretically implying that the Apricot of Truth is...an invention?
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Aztexan wrote:Knowledge seeps in thanks to the Great Apricotiness that allows it. Duh.
Naturally! Because without the Apricot of Truth, we would not have the Duck Sauce of Factual Data!
The Same knowledge Advaita teaches. That Matt and others try to debunk.
No, no, no! You're mixing up two separate philosophies! The Apricot of Truth exists to counter the Lingonberry of Lies and its accompanying Swedish Meatballs of Malarkey. I don't know how we can make this more comprehensible to you. One needs the Duck Sauce of Factual Data in order to consume the Steamed Rice of Reality. It really couldn't be simpler.
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:47 pm

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placid wrote: No one ever came.
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You can't pay people to act this stupid.
The universe doesn't need money to operate, I haven't seen any money meters where it demands to be paid for it's service have you?
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:52 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote: No, no, no! You're mixing up two separate philosophies! The Apricot of Truth exists to counter the Lingonberry of Lies and its accompanying Swedish Meatballs of Malarkey. I don't know how we can make this more comprehensible to you. One needs the Duck Sauce of Factual Data in order to consume the Steamed Rice of Reality. It really couldn't be simpler.
Same one dreaming difference where there is none.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:56 pm

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Matthew Ellard wrote: You can't pay people to act this stupid.
placid wrote: The universe doesn't need money to operate, I haven't seen any money meters where it demands to be paid for it's service have you?
No one mentioned money. You are posting gibberish again. :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:01 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:You are posting gibberish again.
Yeah, I guess that's just what's happening. So what?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Monster » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:06 pm

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Io wrote:Something that constitutes knowledge and an example of its use. Anything. The floor is yours.
No, you are the one that wants to know, not this one here.
To put it politely, that's an extraordinarily bad answer. It really looks like you have no desire to state the usefulness of any of your knowledge, nor do you actually care if your statements are usable by anyone. And it looks like you just intended to write gobbledygook, from the very beginning. It really looks like you're just spewing written diarrhea onto the forum.

Here you go, placid. "Waffles oranging Jupiter vocalizing nothingness knows every nothingness, always and never."
Listening twice as much as you speak is a sign of wisdom.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:07 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:You are posting gibberish again.
placid wrote: Yeah, I guess that's just what's happening. So what?
It indicates you are an idiot. :lol:

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Poodle » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:12 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've just read the rest of this thread. I haven't had such a good chuckle for at least an Aeon. Well done, and may the Great Apricot award you with slippy slices and sticky chins.
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:13 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:You are posting gibberish again.
placid wrote: Yeah, I guess that's just what's happening. So what?
It indicates you are an idiot. :lol:
So what?

Is the sun going to stop shining now?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:15 pm

Poodle wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've just read the rest of this thread. I haven't had such a good chuckle for at least an Aeon.
What's so funny?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:18 pm

Poodle wrote: I've just read the rest of this thread. I haven't had such a good chuckle for at least an Aeon.
placid wrote: What's so funny?
Hmmmm.....let's think hard about this.......
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:19 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: It indicates you are an idiot. :lol:
placid wrote:So what?
Well, it's not "news" is it? :lol:

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:24 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:let's think hard about this......
Think about what?

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:24 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote: It indicates you are an idiot. :lol:
placid wrote:So what?
Well, it's not "news" is it? :lol:
What's not news?

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:29 pm

Poodle wrote:I've just read the rest of this thread. I haven't had such a good chuckle for at least an Aeon.
placid wrote: What's so funny?
Matthew Ellard wrote:let's think hard about this......
placid wrote:Think about what?
Your question.

Are you on some form of anti-psychotic medication?
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Poodle » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:35 pm

placid wrote:
Poodle wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've just read the rest of this thread. I haven't had such a good chuckle for at least an Aeon.
What's so funny?
:yahoo: :hmm:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:07 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote: Your question.
What question...I have never seen a question.

I know the concept question, but I've never seen one.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a your either...except as a word.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:09 pm

placid wrote: What's so funny?
placid, two posts later wrote: What question...I have never seen a question.
You wrote it. We read it. :lol:

Are you on strong anti-psychotics?

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:13 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote: What's so funny?
placid, two posts later wrote: What question...I have never seen a question.
You wrote it. We read it. :lol:


Writers are many, reader is only ever one.

We can all read here the same data as displayed on the computer screen...but the authors are all different.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:15 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Are you on strong anti-psychotics? [/color]
No I like to keep a clear head how about you?

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:24 pm

placid wrote: No I like to keep a clear head how about you?
.....but you said I don't exist and I'm a figment of your own imagination. :D

Your are permanently confused, aren't you?
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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:33 pm

placid wrote: Writers are many, reader is only ever one.
So Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all the same person.........who you respond to separately as individuals.

You can't really be that stupid, can you?
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:55 pm

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Your are permanently confused, aren't you?
If that's what you insist on wanting to hear then okay yes I am, there, is that what you want to hear? does that make you feel good ...what does that make you feel, and does that feeling you are having change anything about this one here?

Is that what you wanted?

You seem to want to want something?

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:59 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Your are permanently confused, aren't you?
placid wrote:If that's what you insist on wanting to hear then okay yes I am.
I don't really care. We get many religious nut cases who come here and are incoherent. You are simply kept here for our entertainment. Gustaave was boring...so off he went. :D

Did you actually think for a nano-second that a forum of scientific skeptics were going to believe your incoherent Advaita Vedanta religion?
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:02 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote: Writers are many, reader is only ever one.
So Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all the same person.........who you respond to separately as individuals.


No not all the same person....just different expressions of the one reader...aka consciousness.

We all write different things...but the reader in me is the same reader in you...because we are all reading the same data showing on the forum even though the authors of that data are different.

When placid writes....hello...everybody reading sees hello...that's because there is only one reader.

It's the authors and their stories are different not the reader... the reader is the same one in all of us

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:07 am

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:Your are permanently confused, aren't you?
placid wrote:If that's what you insist on wanting to hear then okay yes I am.
I don't really care. We get many religious nut cases who come here and are incoherent. You are simply kept here for our entertainment. Gustaave was boring...so off he went. :D

Did you actually think for a nano-second that a forum of scientific skeptics were going to believe your incoherent Advaita Vedanta religion?
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no I didn't think that for a second, you did..this is all inside your own head.

As for me, It's just a story, told by noone ...no big deal for this one here, if you want to make a big deal out of it then fill your boots...it's your big deal party to do what ever you want with it, makes no difference to this one here. I'm just watching it all unfold...like you are for my entertainment.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:11 am

Matthew Ellard wrote: So Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all the same person.........who you respond to separately as individuals.
placid wrote:No not all the same person....just different expressions of the one reader...aka consciousness.
No. They are all different people with separate consciousnesses, otherwise they would all respond in the same way, wouldn't they?
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:18 am

placid wrote: I don't exist
placid wrote: no I didn't think that for a second,
....but if you claim you dodn't exist, who is this "I" you are talking about?

You don't believe any of your crap Advaita religion, do you? :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

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Matthew Ellard wrote:....but if you claim you dodn't exist, who is this "I" you are talking about?[/color]
The same I you are talking about.

So the onus is on you to investigate the who not me, I already know, because I am it, I'm already being it.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:28 am

placid wrote: I don't exist
Matthew Ellard wrote:....but if you claim you don't exist, who is this "I" you are talking about?
placid wrote:The same I you are talking about.
So according to your Advaita Vedanta religion, you don't exist, except for when you do exist......depending on how confused you two are at the moment? :lol:

Do you two perform at children's parties as clowns? :D

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote: So Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all the same person.........who you respond to separately as individuals.
placid wrote:No not all the same person....just different expressions of the one reader...aka consciousness.
No. They are all different people with separate consciousnesses, otherwise they would all respond in the same way, wouldn't they?
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The responses, written data is all different, the reader of the data is the same one.

Lets say placid wrote ...hello....every single person on this forum would read that same hello word, because it's the same one reader in all of us.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:45 am

placid wrote: The responses, written data is all different, the reader of the data is the same one.
No. Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all different people. That's why we respond in different ways.
That's another big hole in you hilariously silly Advaita religion.


For example, why did no one else say they loved Hitler like you did? :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:50 am

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Do you two perform at children's parties as clowns? :D
Yes, being is everywhere all encompassing. Where ever you go there you are.

Consciousness cannot step outside of consciousness. Have you ever tried stepping outside of your consciousness and looking back at it from over there? it can't be done.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:51 am

placid wrote: Lets say placid wrote ...hello....every single person on this forum would read that same hello word, because it's the same one reader in all of us.
No that would be several readers. Nikki, Monster, Poodle and I are not the same person.

You seem even more confused than normal.
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote: The responses, written data is all different, the reader of the data is the same one.
No. Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all different people. That's why we respond in different ways.
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Like I said, the responses are different, but the reader of the responses is the same one. If the reader wasn't the same one...how could we know what we were reading...?

All the words on this post right now can be seen by everybody on this forum right?

That's because there is only one reader.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

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Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote: Lets say placid wrote ...hello....every single person on this forum would read that same hello word, because it's the same one reader in all of us.
No that would be several readers. Nikki, Monster, Poodle and I are not the same person.


There are not several readers, if we were all different readers, knowledge would be fragmented and inchoherent and we would not be able to agree on anything whatsoever ...ever.

When two or three or more people agree on a written post its because they've all seen the same data.

The reader is just another word for consciousness.

Consciousness is the common denominator in all of us...else we could not know what we are communicating with each other, life would be fragmented and inchoherent, we'd all be getting mixed messages, it would be like all the radio stations playing at once.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:26 am

Matthew Ellard wrote: No that would be several readers. Nikki, Monster, Poodle and I are not the same person.
placid wrote:There are not several readers,
One : Matthew
Two : Nikki
Three : Poodle
Four : Monster


You are self taught remember and never understood counting or basic mathematics. :lol:
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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Nikki Nyx » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:56 am

placid wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote: Writers are many, reader is only ever one.
So Poodle, Nikki, Monster and I are all the same person.........who you respond to separately as individuals.
No not all the same person....just different expressions of the one reader...aka consciousness.

We all write different things...but the reader in me is the same reader in you...because we are all reading the same data showing on the forum even though the authors of that data are different.

When placid writes....hello...everybody reading sees hello...that's because there is only one reader.

It's the authors and their stories are different not the reader... the reader is the same one in all of us
This is such a pile of BS, I feel like I should hand you a shovel and make you clean up the forum. Many producers, but only one consumer? Ridiculous. Even if I were to entertain for a moment an interest in your philosophy—which, I would like to make perfectly clear, I do NOT—that right there would have me calling BS. If I, as an author, differ from you, as an author, then we are not the same reader. You can't have multiple consciousnesses writing, but only one reading. Sheesh. Create a better dogma, ffs. The absolute best thing I can say is that at least you're not blaming us for spewing this garbage.
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