Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:56 pm

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Monster wrote:placid, what does a person do with this knowledge that you are trying to impart? Is this knowledge usable for anything?
Yes, it's very usable, you use in order to know stuff.

Without knowledge informing, what would you know?
I know... give us an example. Give some knowledge and an example of its usefulness.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Aztexan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:58 pm

Usefulness of knowledge is the same as knowledge of usefulness
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:05 pm

Io wrote:
placid wrote:
Monster wrote:placid, what does a person do with this knowledge that you are trying to impart? Is this knowledge usable for anything?
Yes, it's very usable, you use in order to know stuff.

Without knowledge informing, what would you know?
I know... give us an example. Give some knowledge and an example of its usefulness.
It depends what you want to know?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:14 pm

Something that constitutes knowledge and an example of its use. Anything. The floor is yours.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:24 pm

Io wrote:Something that constitutes knowledge and an example of its use. Anything. The floor is yours.
No, you are the one that wants to know, not this one here.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Poodle » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:08 pm

placid wrote:
Io wrote:Something that constitutes knowledge and an example of its use. Anything. The floor is yours.
No, you are the one that wants to know, not this one here.
*** Rapidly scans through the Dictionary of Bullcrap ... ... ... ...***
Ah - it says "Haven't the foggiest notion".
How does a book know that?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:37 pm

Poodle wrote:
placid wrote:
Io wrote:Something that constitutes knowledge and an example of its use. Anything. The floor is yours.
No, you are the one that wants to know, not this one here.
*** Rapidly scans through the Dictionary of Bullcrap ... ... ... ...***
Ah - it says "Haven't the foggiest notion".
How does a book know that?
It doesn't, books can't read.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Poodle » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:47 pm

:banghead: :banghead:

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Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:11 pm

Oh Jesus H Chrysanthemum. I found something interesting to do and thought that there'd be revelations by the time I came back. How wrong I was.

Ok:
There is no such thing as a representation.
You are the presentation.
Explain the usefulness and worthwhile application of that while I'm having my tea.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:17 pm

Io wrote:Oh Jesus H Chrysanthemum. I found something interesting to do and thought that there'd be revelations by the time I came back. How wrong I was.

Ok:
There is no such thing as a representation.
You are the presentation.
Explain the usefulness and worthwhile application of that while I'm having my tea.
Why, can't you think for yourself?

While you think about that, make sure you remember to consciously enjoy your tea.

It's like what the heck is useful about history?

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:21 pm

Poodle wrote::banghead: :banghead:
I wouldn't do that if I was you, if I was you I'd move the wall before proceeding to bang head.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 pm

Well you asked me to ask you a question, so that's what that was. So answer. No excuses, no avoiding. Answer my question. Pretend you're talking to yourself.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:53 pm

Io wrote:Well you asked me to ask you a question, so that's what that was. So answer. No excuses, no avoiding. Answer my question. Pretend you're talking to yourself.
I don't know the answer.

I only know the question.

The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:55 pm

Ah so your assertion, that that very answer had a use, was a lie. Cool.

Another question: what actually exists?

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Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:59 pm

Io wrote:Ah so your assertion, that that very answer had a use, was a lie. Cool.

Another question: what actually exists?

The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm

Another question: what actually exists?
Who want's to know?

That's the answer.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Io » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:02 pm

No it isn't.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:04 pm

Io wrote:No it isn't.

Yes, I know.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:53 pm

placid wrote:The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
Really. Show us using this example? :lol:

"Do you know where the exists are?"
"No"

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placid wrote: Hitler's execution of the Jews was an act of love which I still stand by.
placid wrote: Matt said that, not placid.
Here's you saying it.
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 53#p474113

Nope you not only said it but you spent three hours deleting all you other "I love Hitler posts. Did you forget again?
http://www.skepticforum.com/search.php? ... &start=920
placid wrote: The evidence is clear for all to see.
Even though you are simultaneously telling us we don't exist? :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:03 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote:The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
Really. Show us using this example? :lol:

"Do you know where the exists are?"
"No"
There's the answer to the question then.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:06 pm

placid wrote:The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
"Do you know where the exists are?"
"No"
placid wrote:There's the answer to the question then.
Well thanks for destroying your first sentence's claim by yourself. :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:08 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Even though you are simultaneously telling us we don't exist?
We only exist in the image, in the image of the imageless, the image is seen, but not the image maker.

If you have seen the image maker, then show me what it looks like?

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:11 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote:The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
"Do you know where the exists are?"
"No"
placid wrote:There's the answer to the question then.
Well thanks for destroying your first sentence's claim by yourself. :lol:
There is no Self.

Reality doesn't question itself to be what it is...the questions can only apply to the sense of separate self..and so far I have never been able to find two of me.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:17 pm

I don't know who I am, when I did try to find my self in a photograph I realised it was just a piece of coloured paper ..so I thought, well I can't be that can I ?

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:25 pm

placid wrote:I don't know who I am,
We knew that. :lol:

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Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:30 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
placid wrote:I don't know who I am,
We knew that. :lol:

Well done for knowing nothing.

That's what I keep telling you, did you forget again?

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

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placid wrote:The answer must already be contained in the question, else the question wouldn't even arise.
"Do you know where the exists are?"
"No"
placid wrote:There's the answer to the question then.
Matthew Ellard wrote:Well thanks for destroying your first sentence's claim by yourself. :lol:

placid wrote:There is no Self.
No, There was simply no answer in every question as you claimed.....so you tried to change topic. Are you going to delete all your posts again? :lol:

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:36 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:Are you going to delete all your posts again?
I don't know the answer to that right now, but I'll be sure to report back to you when it happens , but for now, I don't know because I can't know anything until it I know it happened.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:39 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:No, There was simply no answer in every question as you claimed.....so you tried to change topic.
No, the I cannot change, but change does apparently appear in the I

That which only appear to change never changed.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:59 pm

placid wrote: the "I" cannot change.
That's true for you know who. Confidencia has now changed his name from Clarifyit4me, to Shaka to Confidencia and he is still posting the exact same incoherent crap.

You guys can never evolve or learn.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Nikki Nyx » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:16 pm

Poodle wrote:Ah, Glasshopper ...
Totally off-topic...that's a great slang term for a binge-drinker. :P Reading this thread makes me want to be a glasshopper. :roll:
"An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof."—Marcello Truzzi

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."—Christopher Hitchens

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:20 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
You guys can never evolve or learn.
That's why eternity exists..right now, there is plenty of time for every experience.

Don't be in such a rush to get nowhere.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Nikki Nyx » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:21 pm

Poodle wrote:You name yourself the Unbeliever. Therefore, you reject the Apricot of Truth.
Placid fears that the Apricot of Truth contains the Kernel of Fabrication, and that accepting the Apricot will lead to the Pit of Despair, and thence to...The Machine.
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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by Nikki Nyx » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:23 pm

Aztexan wrote:Knowledge seeps in thanks to the Great Apricotiness that allows it. Duh.
Naturally! Because without the Apricot of Truth, we would not have the Duck Sauce of Factual Data!
"An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof."—Marcello Truzzi

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."—Christopher Hitchens

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:24 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:You guys can never evolve or learn.
placid wrote:That's why eternity exists.
Stop posting for twenty years and let's see if you have learned anything new, when you come back. :lol:

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:33 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:
Poodle wrote:You name yourself the Unbeliever. Therefore, you reject the Apricot of Truth.
Placid fears that the Apricot of Truth contains the Kernel of Fabrication, and that accepting the Apricot will lead to the Pit of Despair, and thence to...The Machine.
You have no proof I fear.

You make this all up as you go along...out of fear of not-knowing anything.

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Re: Who is the Knower of Knowledge?

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:35 pm

Nikki Nyx wrote:
Aztexan wrote:Knowledge seeps in thanks to the Great Apricotiness that allows it. Duh.
Naturally! Because without the Apricot of Truth, we would not have the Duck Sauce of Factual Data!
The Same knowledge Advaita teaches. That Matt and others try to debunk.

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Post by Matthew Ellard » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:35 pm

placid wrote: I don't exist
placid wrote:You have no proof I fear.
So you now say you do exist?

You are a very confused Advaita follower.

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Re: Debunk Advaita Vedanta Religion

Post by placid » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:37 pm

Matthew Ellard wrote:
Matthew Ellard wrote:You guys can never evolve or learn.
placid wrote:That's why eternity exists.
Stop posting for twenty years and let's see if you have learned anything new, when you come back. :lol:

No one ever came.

There is only coming.

The Father has never been seen since.