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Genetically modified .... humans

Postby Coveny » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:57 pm

Humans have already shown that it’s going to be a slippery slope when designer babies pick up full steam. PGD is widely used around the world currently to allow parents to select some of the traits of their children, such as gender and eye color.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... -children/

First genetically modified human embryo happened this year.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-me ... -concerns/

Is genetic modification of humans to remove genetic illnesses like some cancers, color blindness, Sickle-Cell, Hemophilia, etc. a matter of if or a matter of when? A U.S. Panel has already endorsed it for these serious diseases.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6036 ... s-disease/

Ethically and morally I see it as a positive thing. The ability to remove genetic diseases from the world is huge in and of itself, and I think it more than overcomes the possible abuse by parents to make perfect little designer babies. But we live in a capitalist world so is it just going to become yet another way that the 1% is “better” than the rest of us? Or on the other end what about genetic mistakes happening in third world countries doing bargain basement genetic modifications?

So do you think the benefits of genetically modified humans outweigh the negatives?
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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:23 pm

What negatives?
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Postby Lance Kennedy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:49 am

There is a lot of irrational opposition to this concept. However, if one thing history teaches us, it is that our ideas change over time. I suspect that, within 100 years, the opposition to human genetic engineering will be mostly dumped in history's rubbish bin.

Of course, there is a lot more that can be done besides simply stopping genetic diseases. Since parents truly want the best for their offspring, then once the capability is developed, I can see genetic modifications of an amazing range. This may include stuff we would currently consider weird. Just to introduce a truly mild example, why not modify people so that they have a magnetic sense, as many other life forms have, and can, not only detect North, but identify regions by their local magnetic variations. Or how about a fourth cone in the eyes so that humans can see in the ultra violet, as birds can. The possibilities are endless.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:50 am

The most common and even impactful complaint about genetic engineering is too many will select male babies. Thats the history of sex selection so lets just accept that as true? Absent a law..and even with it... the population will tilt towards more males than females. Ha, ha.......this will encourage homosexuality which will also be genetically limited. OHHHHHHHHHHHH...... the frustration and loneliness. Imagine a society with nothing but Romantic Poets pining away in unrequited fashion? Solved by Sex Bots?===>and everyone happy again.

As usual: porn drives society forward: into the singularity.
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:58 pm

Coveny wrote:So do you think the benefits of genetically modified humans outweigh the negatives?
The only negative I can see is in relation to the current class-based health care system in the US. But I see no negatives in the concept itself, and I think the Luddites are being even more alarmist than usual on this topic.

Sure, there will be a minority who will espouse crap like "racial purity," but they're always present; you can see how far they're currently getting with their agenda by reading the news. :lol:

Also, given that genes are not generally mono-specific, it's going to have to be a cautious process in any case. "Oh, you want to code for blue eyes and red hair? Sorry, but you'll also have to accept Hemochromatosis." Not a fact-based example, but you get the idea. Hemochromatosis is genetic on my father's side (from his mother, who was 100% Irish), but it wasn't reinforced on my mother's side. My aunt, however, married a man of Irish ancestry who also carried the gene, so some of their children have Hemochromatosis.

At the very least, having the information is useful regarding reproduction. Would you reproduce if you and your partner both carried the gene for Hemophilia? Or Tay-Sachs?
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Postby Nikki Nyx » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:03 pm

Lance Kennedy wrote:Of course, there is a lot more that can be done besides simply stopping genetic diseases. Since parents truly want the best for their offspring, then once the capability is developed, I can see genetic modifications of an amazing range. This may include stuff we would currently consider weird. Just to introduce a truly mild example, why not modify people so that they have a magnetic sense, as many other life forms have, and can, not only detect North, but identify regions by their local magnetic variations. Or how about a fourth cone in the eyes so that humans can see in the ultra violet, as birds can. The possibilities are endless.
Imagine if you had both macroscopic and microscopic vision, accessible simply by changing focus. Or internal aural sphincters over which you had conscious control. Endless possibilities, indeed.
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Postby xouper » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:13 pm

I'm not qualified to comment on the merits of the following article.

I merely post it in case anyone is interested.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2146061-we-still-dont-really-know-what-crispr-does-to-human-embryos/

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Postby Lance Kennedy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:40 pm

Xouper

That falls into the category of : we cannot do it just yet.

I would suggest that it is just a matter of time before we develop the capability.

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Lance Kennedy wrote:Xouper

That falls into the category of : we cannot do it just yet.

I would suggest that it is just a matter of time before we develop the capability.


Fair enough.

I am not qualified to say it cannot be done.

I understand your optimism, and I am strongly tempted to feel the same.

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Postby Coveny » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:23 pm

Well that's part of the negatives now isn't it? Testing on humans to try to get rid of the illness or negative traits could lead to deformed human test subjects. We can do a fair amount of genetic modifications on animals but not all of that testing applies to humans so there would be cases where we would either have to create the illness in animals and then try to "fix" it with genetics or test directly on humans. Learn is always a process of trial and error, and those errors could be very emotional...
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Postby Lance Kennedy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:58 pm

Coveny

That statement is, of course, correct. However, it is predictable that most of the trial and error stuff will be done on animals.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:01 pm

so we test on a few hoomans. Like its always been done.

What is this MASSIVE good supposedly countered by infinitesimally small bad? You do understand what PROGRESS requires?....... (Hint: sacrifice.)
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Coveny wrote:PGD is widely used around the world currently

It is?? :shock:
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So the greater good over a few human lives? (which apparently are infinitesimally small sacrifice)
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Coveny: can you add anything to your own thread?
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Coveny: can you add anything to your own thread?


No I'm unable to respond to threads I create. :twisted:
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Coveny: can you add anything to your own thread?


No I'm unable to respond to threads I create. :twisted:

On how many forums did you flog these threads anyway?
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote: On how many forums did you flog these threads anyway?


I wanted to see what many different angles on what people thought about the topics I'm interested in rather than doing a composition bias type approach. The topic is either interesting to you or it's not. Isn't the point of discussing things to hear how other people view the topic?
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Coveny wrote:Well that's part of the negatives now isn't it? Testing on humans to try to get rid of the illness or negative traits could lead to deformed human test subjects. We can do a fair amount of genetic modifications on animals but not all of that testing applies to humans so there would be cases where we would either have to create the illness in animals and then try to "fix" it with genetics or test directly on humans. Learn is always a process of trial and error, and those errors could be very emotional...


Deaths from not treating illnesses are also very emotional. Think of medical trails today - humans lined up for a 50/50 chance of not being on a placebo, and a lesser chance of benefit. If even a small chance at improvement, much less a cure - humans will line up.

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Postby Coveny » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:08 pm

I just saw this video about fetuses in a pod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmdF9l7K9o

Sorta on topic methinks.
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Postby TJrandom » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:09 am

The pro-lifers would object, since they couldn`t monitor every podnancy, much less every abortion.

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Postby bobbo_the_Pragmatist » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:33 pm

Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote: Isn't the point of discussing things to hear how other people view the topic?

Discussing takes two parties. When you go missing, its up to the forum to find an issue that lights up the OP. Unless you are here for purely academic purposes, which does happen with announcement from time to time, your failure to discuss is pouring water on the subject.

To each their own.
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There are 23 posts on this thread, and 6 of them are mine, 5 of them are yours. If you are expecting me to post as much as everyone else combined on this, or any other post, you are going to be found wanting. This is an open discussion about a topic I brought up, to discuss with PEOPLE. The expectation is that I shouldn't dominate the conversation if I'm looking to hear others thoughts on the topic right?

Regardless though I haven't "gone missing" by any definition of the word. Would you mind telling me what your real problem is with me?
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Coveny: Oh....I see the issue and why you fail to contribute: you think numbers equate to content?

Simple recognition: No, they don't.

so........let's discuss.......... YOU might learn something. (Its never too late, the Lord willing.)
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Coveny wrote:There are 23 posts on this thread, and 6 of them are mine, 5 of them are yours. If you are expecting me to post as much as everyone else combined on this, or any other post, you are going to be found wanting. This is an open discussion about a topic I brought up, to discuss with PEOPLE. The expectation is that I shouldn't dominate the conversation if I'm looking to hear others thoughts on the topic right?

Regardless though I haven't "gone missing" by any definition of the word. Would you mind telling me what your real problem is with me?

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Define control freak..... and remember, I'm actually a Dick Whisperer.

Contra: I admit I am being snotty. .......... I'm just busy.
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Does genetic modification take random mutation out of the equation?
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digress wrote:Does genetic modification take random mutation out of the equation?

Only when they would know the random ones are there. Most people won't be getting their DNA monitored that closely, I suspect.
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:Coveny: Oh....I see the issue and why you fail to contribute: you think numbers equate to content?

Simple recognition: No, they don't.

so........let's discuss.......... YOU might learn something. (Its never too late, the Lord willing.)


I didn't say "numbers equate to content" that's a strawman. Also it's pretty egotistical to believe you know what I "think".

You point was that I wasn't contributing, so I used number of posts to prove you were incorrect. Trying to change my position from a rebuttal to an argument doesn't make your argument any less wrong. I have no interest "learning" how to debate with fallacies from you, thank you for the offer though, some of us don't need a master to let us do things.
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.
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Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?
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bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?

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xouper wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?


With a Trump-yellow avatar, are you kidding? :roll:

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TJrandom wrote:
xouper wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?


With a Trump-yellow avatar, are you kidding? :roll:


WTF??

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xouper wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?

Wut?....Oh!!!! right you are. SEEEEEEEEE? I don't follow the personalities on this forum.... just the posts.

Still, I want to be accurate. I haven't "picked" on Gawd for some time so you (Xouper) must have been on my equivocating mind.

Apologies............for this one.
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xouper wrote:
TJrandom wrote:
xouper wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?


With a Trump-yellow avatar, are you kidding? :roll:


WTF??


Said differently, what makes you so special that you should be exempt from being picked on? Any reason - or lack thereof will do, even something as trivial and unrelated as the similarity between your avatar color and Trumps coiffure. ;)

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Re: Genetically modified .... humans

Postby xouper » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:28 am

TJrandom wrote:
xouper wrote:
TJrandom wrote:
xouper wrote:
bobbo_the_Pragmatist wrote:
Coveny wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Booboo is a control freak. Ignore anything you don't want to be bothered with.


I should ignore him, you are correct.

Exactly. If you can't respond on point with any sense.............best to ignore. Or ..... you can step off Xoupers path to personal nihilisation (sic), and LEARN to be better...... or do you already think of yourself as the best you can be?


What the {!#%@} are you picking on me for?


With a Trump-yellow avatar, are you kidding? :roll:


WTF??


Said differently, what makes you so special that you should be exempt from being picked on?


I'm sorry, I did not realize this was the flame war forum.

I'll find my own way to the door, thanks.


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