How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Lance Kennedy wrote:salomed wrote:
I think the whole edifice is corrupt. It is corrupt from from the topdown (The corporations) and it lack's integrity from the bottom up (tenure, baby, tenure).
That is an opinion generated by the distorted business of the news media. The slogan used by newspapers and TV news is :"If it bleeds, it leads." In other words, always emphasize anything bad, because it is more likely to attract readers and listeners. That which is good appears on the last page in small print, if at all.
THe other thing to remember is that journalists are innumerate. They do not understand statistics or numbers, and so report anecdotes instead. The vast majority of scientists are honest, and report their findings honestly, but innumerate journalists cannot understand what 'majority' means, and report the exception, since it comes as an inaccurate anecdote. Those who work for corporations, like Big Pharma, may not be as honest, but most maintain high standards. But the news media do not like to report anything good, so they will always present the opposite.
Actually, I don't tend to read the news media, I trust that even less than the science media.
You acknowledge that those who work for corporations may not be as honest, you do get that the whole academic/medical/industrial/etc complex is corporate?
It's not like there is corporate science and then unconnected to them are these groups of scientists totally unaffected by corporate influence. That is not this world.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
You shouldn't trust the science media, it's just going to confuse you.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- Lance Kennedy
- True Skeptic
- Posts: 10840
- Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:20 pm
- Custom Title: Super Skeptic
- Location: Paradise, New Zealand
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Salomed
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Lance Kennedy wrote:Salomed
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
"...being sucked in the lunatic fringe."
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
This conversation about science suffering from corruption is very silly.
Firstly, the scientific method states that an experiment must be able to be replicated. Therefore, the scientific method itself, has a method of weeding out isolated examples of corruption, incompetence or simple stupidity. The physical nature of the world doesn't change.
Additionally, I think it is very ironic that Salomed is complaining about corruption in science after consciously hiding data and forging evidence in his magic shapes in Shakespeare claim.
.

Firstly, the scientific method states that an experiment must be able to be replicated. Therefore, the scientific method itself, has a method of weeding out isolated examples of corruption, incompetence or simple stupidity. The physical nature of the world doesn't change.
Additionally, I think it is very ironic that Salomed is complaining about corruption in science after consciously hiding data and forging evidence in his magic shapes in Shakespeare claim.
.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Matthew Ellard wrote:This conversation about science suffering from corruption is very silly.![]()
Firstly, the scientific method states that an experiment must be able to be replicated. Therefore, the scientific method itself, has a method of weeding out isolated examples of corruption, incompetence or simple stupidity. The physical nature of the world doesn't change.
Additionally, I think it is very ironic that Salomed is complaining about corruption in science after consciously hiding data and forging evidence in his magic shapes in Shakespeare claim.
.
You still need to setup the debate you had no intention of setting up.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Lance Kennedy wrote:Salomed
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
She who pays the piper/scientist.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:You still need to setup the debate you had no intention of setting up.
You're an idiot. You claimed that the mathematical constants were magically hidden in the Sonnets title page, if you divided the length of lines you chose between some printed text and ignored those lines that didn't work ......and then you still couldn't find one mathematical constant.
3.1 is not π.
π is 3.1415926535.......
There were 16 million other numbers on the same page, using "your method" and you still couldn't find one mathematical constant.

Here is a link to a children's page about mathematics. Learn something.

https://www.mathsisfun.com/irrational-numbers.html
"Example: π (Pi) is a famous irrational number. You cannot write down a simple fraction that equals Pi.........."
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Matthew Ellard wrote:salomed wrote:You still need to setup the debate you had no intention of setting up.
You're an idiot. You claimed that the mathematical constants were magically hidden in the Sonnets title page, if you divided the length of lines you chose between some printed text and ignored those lines that didn't work ......and then you still couldn't find one mathematical constant.
3.1 is not π.
π is 3.1415926535.......
There were 16 million other numbers on the same page, using "your method" and you still couldn't find one mathematical constant.
Here is a link to a children's page about mathematics. Learn something.![]()
https://www.mathsisfun.com/irrational-numbers.html
"Example: π (Pi) is a famous irrational number. You cannot write down a simple fraction that equals Pi.........."
Matthew, you can get 3.14 very easily. You have not even tried. You dare not.
And the other eight constants are there.
And the very fact we have so many right angled triangles is itself uncanny, but that is a bagatelle compared to the other amazing things on that front page.
You know you can.
You know it doesn't fit with your narrow compromised assumptions and your kneejerk, contrarian personalities.
All you have done is misinformed, misdirected, hated, insulted, threatened, ridiculed and all those other tawdry little tricks I see so easily now.
I don't care one bit what you think.
Some here I respect their opinions tremendously.
I used to respect yours, before I understood your methods.
Feel free to keep on talking to me, I find it amusing, and If I have time I might even read some. I might even, if I am a bit bored, like now, reply.
But you are not a man of your word.
I look forwards to more of your slime but equally, I would be more than fine if you blocked me and I never had to encounter your pathetic little VERY google-assisted, too much time on your hands, nastiness again.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:Lance Kennedy wrote:Salomed
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
She who pays the piper/scientist.
Scientists LOVE to catch other scientists making mistakes. Proving a renowed Ph.D. is wrong about something makes careers.
Your stupid trolling about some grand conspiracy of scientists is just you expressing your inability to understand science.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:Lance Kennedy wrote:Salomed
You are being sucked in by the media. I have worked with the scientific community and I know what they are like. The majority are almost painfully honest, and write their results so carefully to avoid saying anything that might be wrong. Sure there is a small group who are influenced by corporates and write misleading material. But they are a minority.
She who pays the piper/scientist.
Scientists LOVE to catch other scientists making mistakes. Proving a renowed Ph.D. is wrong about something makes careers.
Your stupid trolling about some grand conspiracy of scientists is just you expressing your inability to understand science.
Yes yes, I am just trolling. Making it all up about the peer review system being inherently biasing, corporate interests being crucial to funding, journals being shown to compromised, yada yada... I am just a troll please block me. Pretty please.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
If I blocked you I couldn't say "{!#%@} YOU" as often. Where the fun in that?
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:If I blocked you I couldn't say "{!#%@} YOU" as often. Where the fun in that?
There is no fun in swearing.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:If I blocked you I couldn't say "{!#%@} YOU" as often. Where the fun in that?
There is no fun in swearing.
Then you're doing it wrong.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- OlegTheBatty
- True Skeptic
- Posts: 10979
- Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:35 pm
- Custom Title: Uppity Atheist
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
. . . with the satisfied air of a man who thinks he has an idea of his own because he has commented on the idea of another . . . - Alexandre Dumas 'The Count of Monte Cristo"
There is no statement so absurd that it has not been uttered by some philosopher. - Cicero
There is no statement so absurd that it has not been uttered by some philosopher. - Cicero
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Please stop swearing!
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Please stop swearing!
Who the {!#%@} are you to tell us what to do?
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Please stop swearing!
Who the {!#%@} are you to tell us what to do?
I am someone who comes here for debate and talk not to listen to bad language.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Please stop swearing!
Who the {!#%@} are you to tell us what to do?
I am someone who comes here for debate and talk not to listen to bad language.
Then don't move your lips when you read.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
Fukkin' amateurs . . .
Please stop swearing!
Who the {!#%@} are you to tell us what to do?
I am someone who comes here for debate and talk not to listen to bad language.
Then don't move your lips when you read.
See you next tuesday;)
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Lance Kennedy
- True Skeptic
- Posts: 10840
- Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:20 pm
- Custom Title: Super Skeptic
- Location: Paradise, New Zealand
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Salomed
Suggesting that scientists are occasionally corrupt is a valid point. Suggesting they are always or almost always corrupt is simply wrong. Science has made amazing strides in the last 100 years, and that would be impossible if scientists were mostly corrupt.
I agree with you on swearing. I occasionally use the word 'bullsh!t', because it is a potent word that carries meaning. But gratuitous swearing is not needed.
Suggesting that scientists are occasionally corrupt is a valid point. Suggesting they are always or almost always corrupt is simply wrong. Science has made amazing strides in the last 100 years, and that would be impossible if scientists were mostly corrupt.
I agree with you on swearing. I occasionally use the word 'bullsh!t', because it is a potent word that carries meaning. But gratuitous swearing is not needed.
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
So stop me.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
3.1 is not π.
π is 3.1415926535....... as it is an irrational number.
Why are you so stupid? You cannot calculate π. or any other irrational number by simple division. The value you obtain by your ridiculous "division method" gives the wrong value for π. There are no magical hidden mathematical constants anywhere in Shakespeare's Sonnets.
You simply don't understand basic mathematics and additionally ignored the other seven clear evidenced reasons, I set out as to why you are not only wrong, but you additionally cheated to hide that same evidence and started a second thread to hide your earlier lies.
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=80
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27871
π is 3.1415926535....... as it is an irrational number.
salomed wrote:Matthew, you can get 3.14 very easily. You have not even tried..
Why are you so stupid? You cannot calculate π. or any other irrational number by simple division. The value you obtain by your ridiculous "division method" gives the wrong value for π. There are no magical hidden mathematical constants anywhere in Shakespeare's Sonnets.
You simply don't understand basic mathematics and additionally ignored the other seven clear evidenced reasons, I set out as to why you are not only wrong, but you additionally cheated to hide that same evidence and started a second thread to hide your earlier lies.

viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=80
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27871
- Gord
- Obnoxious Weed
- Posts: 30471
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:44 am
- Custom Title: Silent Ork
- Location: Transcona
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
There's the 10,000 hour hypothesis, but it's been debunked.
"Knowledge grows through infinite timelessness" -- the random fictional Deepak Chopra quote site
"Imagine an ennobling of what could be" -- the New Age BS Generator site
"You are also taking my words out of context." -- Justin
"Nullius in verba" -- The Royal Society ["take nobody's word for it"]
#ANDAMOVIE
"Imagine an ennobling of what could be" -- the New Age BS Generator site
"You are also taking my words out of context." -- Justin
"Nullius in verba" -- The Royal Society ["take nobody's word for it"]
#ANDAMOVIE
- OlegTheBatty
- True Skeptic
- Posts: 10979
- Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:35 pm
- Custom Title: Uppity Atheist
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gord wrote:OlegTheBatty wrote:Isn't there some hypothesis to the effect that you have to do something ten thousand times to become expert at it?
There's the 10,000 hour hypothesis, but it's been debunked.
They didn't even consider researching swearing. !#%@ scientists.
. . . with the satisfied air of a man who thinks he has an idea of his own because he has commented on the idea of another . . . - Alexandre Dumas 'The Count of Monte Cristo"
There is no statement so absurd that it has not been uttered by some philosopher. - Cicero
There is no statement so absurd that it has not been uttered by some philosopher. - Cicero
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Matthew Ellard wrote: 3.1 is not π.
π is 3.1415926535....... as it is an irrational number.salomed wrote:Matthew, you can get 3.14 very easily. You have not even tried..
Why are you so stupid? You cannot calculate π. or any other irrational number by simple division. The value you obtain by your ridiculous "division method" gives the wrong value for π. There are no magical hidden mathematical constants anywhere in Shakespeare's Sonnets.
You simply don't understand basic mathematics and additionally ignored the other seven clear evidenced reasons, I set out as to why you are not only wrong, but you additionally cheated to hide that same evidence and started a second thread to hide your earlier lies.![]()
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=80
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27871
For 400 year old printing it is amazing how accurate the nine mathematical constants are. Just mind blowing.
Don't forget, it is not possible to perfectly write Pi, Eulers Number, Brun's constant, Phi or the other constants encoded in the Sonnet's cover because they go on and on for light years.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Why do you lie so much?
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Why do you lie so much?
I have not lied.
I do not lie.
Just calling soneone a liar because you cannot refute them is a bit ellardy.
Be better.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Why do you lie so much?
I have not lied.
I do not lie.
Just calling soneone a liar because you cannot refute them is a bit ellardy.
Be better.
I'm better than you, I don't lie so much.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Why do you lie so much?
I have not lied.
I do not lie.
Just calling soneone a liar because you cannot refute them is a bit ellardy.
Be better.
I'm better than you, I don't lie so much.
Name one lie and I will leave the forum for good.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- Poodle
- Has More Than 8K Posts
- Posts: 9000
- Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:12 pm
- Custom Title: Regular sleeper
- Location: NE corner of my living room
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
3.14 is pi.
But don't leave - you're far too much fun.
But don't leave - you're far too much fun.
- Gawdzilla Sama
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 20886
- Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:11 am
- Custom Title: Deadly but evil.
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:salomed wrote:Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Why do you lie so much?
I have not lied.
I do not lie.
Just calling soneone a liar because you cannot refute them is a bit ellardy.
Be better.
I'm better than you, I don't lie so much.
Name one lie and I will leave the forum for good.
Whatever you posted. You will never agree that anything I point is a lie, you'd lie about.
Chachacha wrote:"Oh, thweet mythtery of wife, at waft I've found you!"
WWII Resources. Primary sources.
The Myths of Pearl Harbor. Demythologizing the attack.
Hyperwar. Hypertext history of the Second World War.
The greatest place to work in the entire United States.
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
3.1 is not π.
π is 3.1415926535....... as it is an irrational number.
Irrational numbers cannot be calculated by simple division.
You are upset and emotional because you claim Rene Descartes, the mathematician, as your hero but didn't know what a basic irrational number was until I told you a week ago.
π is 3.1415926535....... as it is an irrational number.
Irrational numbers cannot be calculated by simple division.
There are no mathematical constants ( irrational numbers) anywhere on the Sonnets title page.salomed wrote:For 400 year old printing it is amazing how accurate the nine mathematical constants are. Just mind blowing.

You are upset and emotional because you claim Rene Descartes, the mathematician, as your hero but didn't know what a basic irrational number was until I told you a week ago.

-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Salomed agrees to leave the forum
salomed wrote:Name one lie and I will leave the forum for good.
1) You stated you overlaid your JPEG Sonnets title page over the original at the British Museum and posted a photo. The original Sonnets title page is held at the British Library and has different text at the bottom. You simply lied and forged evidence.

viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=40#p567602
salomed wrote:No, you are mistaken....I have taken the image from your link and have superimposed it in GIMP onto the one from the British Museum. You can do this yourself in a few minutes.
You then forged this "overlay" picture
2) You said and still say, the mathematical constants (irrational numbers) can be calculated by division. That is a direct lie.

I have set out all your lies in the original thread.
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941#p566177
Goodbye and good riddance...and take Gorgeous with you.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: Salomed agrees to leave the forum
Matthew Ellard wrote:salomed wrote:Name one lie and I will leave the forum for good.
1) You stated you overlaid your JPEG Sonnets title page over the original at the British Museum and posted a photo. The original Sonnets title page is held at the British Library and has different text at the bottom. You simply lied and forged evidence.![]()
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=40#p567602salomed wrote:No, you are mistaken....I have taken the image from your link and have superimposed it in GIMP onto the one from the British Museum. You can do this yourself in a few minutes.
You then forged this "overlay" pictureSalomed forged photo.jpg
2) You said and still say, the mathematical constants (irrational numbers) can be calculated by division. That is a direct lie.![]()
I have set out all your lies in the original thread.
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941#p566177
Goodbye and good riddance...and take Gorgeous with you.
Do this:
Take the two pictures from the internet.
Invert one.
Overlay a layer of this onto the other.
You get the above picture.
Where is the lie?
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Re: Salomed agrees to leave the forum
Salomed just lies and lies and lies......
You were totally unaware you were manipulating a jpeg image of a later print run with a modified title page for the book seller William Aspley.
You lied and fraudulently fabricated a fake overlay of your modified jpeg with the real Sonnets page at the British Library, which was a total lie and posted this image.:
What makes you a completely incompetent liar is that the punctuation marks moved and yet magically your "secret hidden geometric shapes defined by punctuation didn't change at all.
You are a continuous liar and on the same level as Gorgeous. Stick to your word and leave the forum. Go promote your book, to be released in late 2017, on another forum.
I have listed all Salomed's lies, and they are endless, in the original thread.
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941
The Sonnets are held at the British Library. The British Museum has no version of the Sonnets. The Sonnets at the British Library have the original print run title page, as the book seller was John Wright.salomed wrote:No, you are mistaken....I have taken the image from your link and have superimposed it in GIMP onto the one from the British Museum. ........
You were totally unaware you were manipulating a jpeg image of a later print run with a modified title page for the book seller William Aspley.
You lied and fraudulently fabricated a fake overlay of your modified jpeg with the real Sonnets page at the British Library, which was a total lie and posted this image.:
What makes you a completely incompetent liar is that the punctuation marks moved and yet magically your "secret hidden geometric shapes defined by punctuation didn't change at all.

You are a continuous liar and on the same level as Gorgeous. Stick to your word and leave the forum. Go promote your book, to be released in late 2017, on another forum.
I have listed all Salomed's lies, and they are endless, in the original thread.
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
I have not lied once. Do as I said, its there. Its all there.
The question is, is it coincidence or intended that the nine constants are encided in the cover.
You wont even confirm that the triangles are right angled. You are the dishonest one.
The question is, is it coincidence or intended that the nine constants are encided in the cover.
You wont even confirm that the triangles are right angled. You are the dishonest one.
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: How to become a 'true skeptic' in this forum?
Lance Kennedy wrote:Salomed
Suggesting that scientists are occasionally corrupt is a valid point. Suggesting they are always or almost always corrupt is simply wrong. Science has made amazing strides in the last 100 years, and that would be impossible if scientists were mostly corrupt.
I agree with you on swearing. I occasionally use the word 'bullsh!t', because it is a potent word that carries meaning. But gratuitous swearing is not needed.
Lance, I saw this just now and thought of you:
https://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2017/ ... iew-fraud/
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
-
- Real Skeptic
- Posts: 27746
- Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:31 am
Salomed is a non-stop liar
You directly lied about layering your manipulated JPEG image over the original at the British Library and finding an "exact match". (You were unaware they had different wording) You then forged this image, claiming it was proof you layered the original, by simply reversing the colour on your own manipulated image. See the hard evidence three posts above.salomed wrote:I have not lied once. .
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28046&p=572362#p572320
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=40#p567602
You are a liar.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
- salomed
- Frequent Poster
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:18 pm
- Custom Title: Cartesian Skeptic
Re: Salomed is a non-stop liar
Matthew Ellard wrote:You directly lied about layering your manipulated JPEG image over the original at the British Library and finding an "exact match". (You were unaware they had different wording) You then forged this image, claiming it was proof you layered the original, by simply reversing the colour on your own manipulated image. See the hard evidence three posts above.salomed wrote:I have not lied once. .
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28046&p=572362#p572320
Salomed forged photo.jpg
viewtopic.php?f=80&t=27941&start=40#p567602
You are a liar. Salomed 5.jpg
I challenge you: let us have a video confrence, public, and I will demonstrate, using either pen and paper or computer images, that I have not lied and that these things are in the sonnets.
Challenge Accepted?
Comment savez-vous que vous ne parlez pas bollox?
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Sur internet: http://bit.ly/14A0n9H
Return to “Skepticism and Critical Thinking”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Gord and 3 guests